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  • Bard
    YouTube: NHBard
    • Oct 2010
    • 7804

    #1

    2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

    I see some other teams being put up and thought why not put up the Red Sox prospects for 2013.

    1) Xander Bogaerts, SS, Grade A: Given his age, overall track record, and the small sample size, I am not worried about the lack of walks in Double-A. He's going to be an excellent hitter and there is at least a moderate chance he can stick at shortstop, at least for awhile. One of the top elite prospects in the game.


    2) Jackie Bradley, OF, Grade B+: Terrific defense, on-base ability, moderate power, excellent makeup. Sounds like a winner to me and worthy successor to Jacoby Ellsbury.

    3) Matt Barnes, RHP, Grade B+: I'm a little worried about his wilt in the second half, otherwise I might have ranked him ahead of Bradley, but overall he performed up to expectations, looking like a future number two or three starter to me, assuming any durability issues clear up.

    4) Garin Cecchini, 3B, Grade B: Borderline B+. I assume this grade may surprise people, but I'm thinking he will start to show more power to go with his OBP skills, speed, and greatly improved defense. I don't always play it safe with the grades.Initially I had him at a B+, but have kicked that down slightly. It isn't that my opinion about Cecchini changed, but rather that there were a couple of guys I had at strong Bs that I felt were slightly better.

    5) Allen Webster, RHP, Grade B: Borderline B+. Love the grounders, but needs to sharpen his command further and refine breaking ball. Another guy who can be a mid-rotation arm, eat tons of innings.

    6) Henry Owens, LHP, Grade B: He's got some issues, needs to get the walks down for example, but the 4.87 ERA overstates his troubles. I like his physicality, size, delivery, and I think the command will improve.

    7) Bryce Brentz, OF, Grade B-: Borderline B: I think he can develop into something like Ryan Ludwick but he may need a couple of years to do it. Will he get that kind of slack?

    8) Blake Swihart, C, Grade B-: So far, he scouts better than he performs. Defense seems to be coming along, but hitting was disappointing in the Sally League given all the pre-draft hype his bat received, and at age 20 he was old for a 2011 high school draft. He's a solid prospect certainly but I am going to wait and see beyond that. Catchers have weird development curves, though, and New Mexico background also factors in.

    9) Brandon Workman, RHP, Grade B-: Not spectacular, but seems like he'll become a workhorse arm. If he switches to relief he would be more dominant, but even the Red Sox need inning eaters.

    10) Deven Marrero, SS, Grade B-: Very good defense and patient at the plate, could develop some doubles power. I don't see him as a star but he has a chance to be a solid regular or a really good utility

    11) Pat Light, RHP, Grade B-: One of my favorite pitchers from the 2012 draft, I suspect I like him better than many people do but I think he can improve his changeup enough to start. If not, another guy who could dominate in relief.

    12) Jose Iglesias, SS, Grade C+: His glove is excellent but his bat is so bad that it may be tough to keep him in the lineup anyway. If they are lucky he can be the Cuban Adam Everett and hold a job with positive WAR even with poor hitting. If they aren't lucky, keep in mind that Rey Ordonez had a great glove but couldn't hold the job anyway.

    13) Brandon Jacobs, OF, Grade C+: At this point, the C+ guys could be listed in just about any order depending on taste. I'll go with Jacobs here, the tools hound who had a disappointing season in High-A but is young enough at age 22 to rebound effectively. Everybody seems to have forgotten about him.

    14) Drake Britton, LHP, Grade C+: Very erratic, command issues remain, but has one of the better left-handed arms in the minors. Should be a useful power bullpen arm if his control doesn't come around enough for him to start.

    15) Brian Johnson, LHP, Grade C+: Very polished University of Florida lefty is classic "low upside, high floor" pitcher who should move through system quickly as an inning-soaking strike-thrower.

    16) Keury De La Cruz, OF, Grade C+: Great slash line in Low-A (.308/.352/.536) at age 20 is nice, but poor strike zone discipline and hesitant scouting reports from non-Red Sox sources give one pause. Obviously a prospect but I want to see more before buying in completely.

    17) Ty Buttrey, RHP, Grade C+: Big horse from 2012 draft was fourth round pick but took first round money to sign. Has a first round arm to go with it, but it remains to be seen how his command and changeup will work out. Fastball/knucklecurve combo would make him a good reliever if necessary.

    18) Jose Vinicio, SS, Grade C+: Another tools guy, gets strong reviews on defense. Fast, has a chance to hit for average, but don't expect power.

    19) Brock Holt, 2B, Grade C+: Acquired in Joel Hanrahan trade with Pirates. Opposite of Vinicio: lacks tools, but knows how to play and persistently exceeds expectations of scouts. Solid glove at second, good-enough at shortstop for utility work, should hit for average.

    20) Cody Kukuk, LHP, Grade C+: My pick for a surprise breakthrough in 2013. Big lefty with above average fastball and slider, lost most of the season on restricted list due to DUI charges that were eventually dismissed. Looked outstanding in August, mechanics and command were more consistent than they were in high school. If he keeps that up, he will vault up this list next year. Assuming no more off-field glitches, he *could* turn into Jon Lester.

    OTHER GRADE C+: Sean Coyle, 2B; Austin Maddox, RHP; Travis Shaw, 1B.

    OTHERS: Mike Augliera, RHP; Jamie Callahan, RHP; Chris Carpenter, RHP; Sergio Gomez, RHP; Alex Hassan, OF; Chris Hernandez, LHP; Aaron Kurcz, RHP; Juan Carlos Linares, OF; Tzu-Wei Lin, SS; Manuel Margot, OF; Simon Mercedes, RHP; Francellis Montas, RHP; Miguel Pena, LHP; Noe Ramirez, RHP; Anthony Ranaudo, RHP; Christian Vazquez, C; Alex Wilson, RHP; Steven Wright, RHP.
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  • TGov
    MVP
    • Mar 2012
    • 1169

    #2
    Re: 2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

    This is awesome, thank you for this I've been looking for a Sox thread...

    I can't wait for the Show especially with all this new info coming out about new features...

    Im getting that "Show" itch, aw man... I'm tweaking, I'm tweaking, I'm tweaking, I'm tweaking... lol... oh Aziz Ansari you are so annoying, yet I always seem to laugh... ...............

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    • Bard
      YouTube: NHBard
      • Oct 2010
      • 7804

      #3
      Re: 2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

      I have also, that is why i made it haha. Weird that Rosa isn't on there, unless i just skipped over him three times.
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      • seanjeezy
        The Future
        • Aug 2009
        • 3347

        #4
        Re: 2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

        Originally posted by Bard
        I have also, that is why i made it haha. Weird that Rosa isn't on there, unless i just skipped over him three times.
        Rubby isn't a rookie anymore and he pitched in 1 game last year so he should be an SCEA player lol
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        • Bard
          YouTube: NHBard
          • Oct 2010
          • 7804

          #5
          Re: 2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

          Originally posted by seanjeezy
          Rubby isn't a rookie anymore and he pitched in 1 game last year so he should be an SCEA player lol
          Where was i when this happened? Well that is sweet then haha.
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          • rjackson
            MVP
            • Apr 2005
            • 1661

            #6
            Re: 2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

            This criticism is meant to be helpful or constructive so do not take it personally:

            Keep in mind that defense plays a lot more into overall and potential ratings for positions like SS and hitting is weighted heavier on corner positions. So, Iglesias would get a higher rating, for instance. That said, a lot of those guys from 5 or 6 on down look to be overrated to me but I'm also very tough on my grades and I have to tick them up a notch for the video game.

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            • Bard
              YouTube: NHBard
              • Oct 2010
              • 7804

              #7
              Re: 2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

              Originally posted by rjackson
              This criticism is meant to be helpful or constructive so do not take it personally:

              Keep in mind that defense plays a lot more into overall and potential ratings for positions like SS and hitting is weighted heavier on corner positions. So, Iglesias would get a higher rating, for instance. That said, a lot of those guys from 5 or 6 on down look to be overrated to me but I'm also very tough on my grades and I have to tick them up a notch for the video game.
              I didn't make the list, tons of time to change it
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              • kylefoley94
                Banned
                • May 2012
                • 305

                #8
                Re: 2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

                something I've been wondering about lately is how these prospects are all made, do the guys that work on the OSFM get the game early or something? or do they just do a lot of work the day it comes out?

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                • kylefoley94
                  Banned
                  • May 2012
                  • 305

                  #9
                  Re: 2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

                  and I just had another question, do you think once the OSFM roster is out, think either Bogaerts, Bradley, or Barnes will be in the "Top 50" the new prospect system in MLB 13

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                  • yanksdaniel99
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 1185

                    #10
                    Re: 2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

                    Originally posted by kylefoley94
                    something I've been wondering about lately is how these prospects are all made, do the guys that work on the OSFM get the game early or something? or do they just do a lot of work the day it comes out?
                    Ton of work after game is out. The set is normal out by opening day, takes about 2-3 weeks of work to complete the whole thing.

                    Originally posted by kylefoley94
                    and I just had another question, do you think once the OSFM roster is out, think either Bogaerts, Bradley, or Barnes will be in the "Top 50" the new prospect system in MLB 13
                    IMO, all three are top 50 specs so most likely yes but it's TBD.

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                    • kylefoley94
                      Banned
                      • May 2012
                      • 305

                      #11
                      Re: 2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

                      do guys like Bundy, Machado, Profar, and Olt still count as prospects considering they spent time in the MLB last year

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                      • CameRoN0407
                        It's a New England Thing
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 3328

                        #12
                        Re: 2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

                        Originally posted by kylefoley94
                        and I just had another question, do you think once the OSFM roster is out, think either Bogaerts, Bradley, or Barnes will be in the "Top 50" the new prospect system in MLB 13
                        Bogaerts will for sure be AT Least a Top 25 prospect IMO. He is quickly becoming a star at hitting, and still has some pop in his bat. Bradley MAY be in the T-50, same with Barnes IMO.

                        I still think Barnes should be a A-. I really like the way he's pitched before the second half last year. Give him a chance. But if he does horrid the first quarter of this year, B+ him in the update.
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                        • CameRoN0407
                          It's a New England Thing
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 3328

                          #13
                          Re: 2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

                          Originally posted by kylefoley94
                          do guys like Bundy, Machado, Profar, and Olt still count as prospects considering they spent time in the MLB last year
                          Wrong thread. And depends
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                          • yanksdaniel99
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                            • Jun 2011
                            • 1185

                            #14
                            Re: 2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

                            Originally posted by kylefoley94
                            do guys like Bundy, Machado, Profar, and Olt still count as prospects considering they spent time in the MLB last year
                            Less then 50 IP/130 ABs = prospect so yes, no, yes & yes

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                            • yanksdaniel99
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 1185

                              #15
                              Re: 2013 OSFM: Boston Red Sox

                              Originally posted by Readyornot0407
                              Bogaerts will for sure be AT Least a Top 25 prospect IMO. He is quickly becoming a star at hitting, and still has some pop in his bat. Bradley MAY be in the T-50, same with Barnes IMO.

                              I still think Barnes should be a A-. I really like the way he's pitched before the second half last year. Give him a chance. But if he does horrid the first quarter of this year, B+ him in the update.
                              I have all 3 in the top 50 (boegarts in the top 10, the other two in the back 50 range) and all in the consideration for A's. I think Boegaerts = A and the other two as A-'s.

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