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  • oducksfan
    Rookie
    • Oct 2010
    • 42

    #1

    Help choosing sliders

    I haven't played Madden since '10 as i have stayed mainly on NCAA series, but I just got this years Madden of eBay to try it out as NCAA 13 was a major bust.

    I am pretty good on NCAA series (AA Sliders no more than 1-2 losses a season as Wisconsin)

    But I struggle a lot with Madden.

    I tried using Authetic's sliders which were horrible for me in the preseason as I couldn't do anything until the 4th quarter. I would give up ~15 yards a carry to CJ Spiller and Matt Forte, and Ashlon Jeffery torched me for close to 100 yards on 4 receptions in 1 quarter meanwhile on the offensive side Alfred Morris was completely useless as in both games he never had a carry of 5 yards and his average was under 1.5 ypc RG3 was sacked almost 3/4 of his dropbacks and would get chased down by DT's which isn't realistic(minus Ngata)

    I would classify myself as a Madden noob, but in about 1 season I believe after getting comfortable I will be able to move to all Pro but in the meantime I need a easier slider set before I give up.

    Also is there a Madden version of Roster Uploads or am I stuck with Ea Sports rosters updates?


    Thanks
    NFL: Washington Redskins
    NCAAF: Haven't been accepted anywhere yet.
    NBA: Chicago Bulls
  • Drtro
    Banned
    • Sep 2012
    • 560

    #2
    Re: Help choosing sliders

    Just play on All-Pro with Interceptions turned down to 25 or so. It'll give you a better experience than most sliders posted here.

    I've been happy playing with KB's set and the two zero-based sliders.

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    • Drtro
      Banned
      • Sep 2012
      • 560

      #3
      Re: Help choosing sliders

      Also read through the Wiki.

      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...d.php?t=587058


      Here are links to KB's and the two zero-based slider. One plays on Fast and the other Slow.

      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...d.php?t=592327



      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...d.php?t=599214

      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...d.php?t=586043

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      • KBLover
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2009
        • 12172

        #4
        Re: Help choosing sliders

        Drtro has a good idea (and not just because he mentioned my sets lol).

        Start tweaking your sliders based on what's hard/easy for you. Ultimately, any slider set is going to need tailoring to you. As you learn the game and get better, that will lead to more tweaking as well.

        Starting with default and going from there is excellent advice. If you start putting up 80% completion with any scrub QB, you'll know it's time to turn your QB Accuracy down. If you struggle running the ball right now, increase your run blocking, things like that.

        Then you can enjoy the game and your team as you learn, and when you do improve, you can start making things harder for your in those areas as you develop.

        Also, don't be afraid to just experiment. See what something does. Heck, that's how a lot of slider makers on this forum come up with things and are still coming up with things. If you don't like something you're seeing - mess with the slider for it. See what happens (use a different CCM so you don't mess up your "main" files with the experimenting).
        "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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        • oducksfan
          Rookie
          • Oct 2010
          • 42

          #5
          Re: Help choosing sliders

          Thank you all for quickly replying with information as I will try out these sliders I took as a combination of wiki, KB's, knowledge of my skill on last used sliders

          Game Speed: Slow
          Threshold: 40(I like to see speed affect the game)
          Fatigue: 40
          Injuries: 55

          FG Power: 60(Kai Forbath had trouble with 45 yd attempts with slider at 50 which is not realistic as in real life he had plenty of range and could get ~55 yards next year)
          Accuracy: 45
          Punt Power: 55
          Punt Acc: 100
          Kickoff Power: 60(Not seeing as many touchbacks as real life)

          QB Acc 20(Kirk Cousins[yes not the best QB to go off of] was missing my WR by 5,10 yards with no pressure, RG3's deep ball was like he was playing against the Seahawks.
          Pass Block 35
          WR Catching 50(Had it at 55, but not enough drops)
          Break Tackle 25
          Run Block 35
          Fumbles 10
          Pass Defense React Time : 20
          Interceptions: 20
          Pass Rushing 35
          Rush React Time 25(Opponent RB were having a too high YPC)
          Block Shedding 5
          Tackling 20

          CPU

          QB Accuracy 15
          Pass Blocking 25
          WR Catching 50
          Broken Tackles 23(RB's were making too many broken tackles)
          Run Blocking 33(Holes were gigantic)
          Fumbles 10
          Pass Defense Reaction Time 18(To many passes batted down)
          Interceptions 20
          Pass Rushing 30(Sacked almost 3 of 4 dropbacks)
          Rush Defense Reaction Time 18
          Block Shedding 5
          Tackling 20

          Will post result of Washington verse Chicago of my next preseason game.
          NFL: Washington Redskins
          NCAAF: Haven't been accepted anywhere yet.
          NBA: Chicago Bulls

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          • Drtro
            Banned
            • Sep 2012
            • 560

            #6
            Re: Help choosing sliders

            For months I played on All-Pro with INT and RBK set to 25 and had fun. But I wanted to get a more realistic "ratings matter" and started going with all 0 sets.


            Just start with a default difficulty. Play 3-4 games and take notes.
            If the running is too easy, turn down run block.
            If you threw 9 interceptions in 4 games, turn CPU INT down.

            Just play a few games and take notes on different things. Try not to change sliders after every game unless it's something you majorly can't stand. On default All-Pro, I turned down RBK because I was getting 6-10 yards a carry!

            Play a few games to get a feel for it, don't quit after a game and change things.

            And remember, things I rarely see addressed on sliders; top HBs average 4-5 yards per carry. Average. Not every carry. The one reason I hate most sliders on these forums. Getting around 100 yards a game is unlikely, even the best in the league have their 20-40-yard days.
            Last edited by Drtro; 01-19-2013, 04:24 PM.

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            • mooch49
              Pro
              • Oct 2003
              • 915

              #7
              Re: Help choosing sliders

              There are three constants I've realized playing this game the last few months. They are game speed, threshold, and tackling. All effect each other. For example, if you play on slow, then threshold should be 75 and tackle should be 75. If you play on fast, threshold should be 25, tackle at 25. Normal would be 50 for both. Very slow would be 100's. Very Fast would be 0's. Try to stick with this formula when adjusting your slider set.

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              • Drtro
                Banned
                • Sep 2012
                • 560

                #8
                Re: Help choosing sliders

                Did you get that backwards? I'd rather have 100 Threshold on Very Fast than Very Slow.

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                • oducksfan
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 42

                  #9
                  Re: Help choosing sliders

                  Originally posted by Drtro
                  Did you get that backwards? I'd rather have 100 Threshold on Very Fast than Very Slow.
                  Is threshold different in Madden than NCAA, lower threshold=bigger speed difference?
                  NFL: Washington Redskins
                  NCAAF: Haven't been accepted anywhere yet.
                  NBA: Chicago Bulls

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                  • mooch49
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 915

                    #10
                    Re: Help choosing sliders

                    Originally posted by Drtro
                    Did you get that backwards? I'd rather have 100 Threshold on Very Fast than Very Slow.
                    I don't think so. If you notice, everybody using slow has it at 75. So very slow would be the next increment up. I could be wrong though. I just know that animations look so much better and smoother when the tackling slider matches up with the game speed. High tackle at fast game speed doesn't look too hot.
                    Last edited by mooch49; 01-19-2013, 04:48 PM.

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                    • Drtro
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 560

                      #11
                      Re: Help choosing sliders

                      Gonna try that out.

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                      • oducksfan
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 42

                        #12
                        Re: Help choosing sliders

                        Also how important is this new experience thing they offer through practices, I see the high priced items are ~20k experience and i think the highest practice offering is close to 2k

                        Do I need to just spend 2 hours practicing?
                        NFL: Washington Redskins
                        NCAAF: Haven't been accepted anywhere yet.
                        NBA: Chicago Bulls

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                        • tamburo22
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 299

                          #13
                          Re: Help choosing sliders

                          Threshold really depends on preference. I've always played with it on 0 because I like the bigger separation. I alwaysplayed on slow but recently started trying out fast speed, and keeping threshold on 0. Again, just my preference

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                          • RogueHominid
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 10903

                            #14
                            Re: Help choosing sliders

                            I've used two sets intermittently and have immensely enjoyed a wide variety of game types.

                            Jarrod gives you tiers to assess your skill level. His are for the more veteran Madden players, I believe, and they're excellent.

                            KBlover also has a wonderful set. His are good for veterans, but also good for people like myself who need a hard All Pro/borderline All Madden experience.

                            With these sets, I've seen realistic playcalls and stats and have never been disappointed.

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                            • Drtro
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 560

                              #15
                              Re: Help choosing sliders

                              Do the 2 Minute Drill. Takes like literally 2 minutes if you play it out right.

                              I'll turn QBA and WR Catch up to 100 and do streaks up to the 40-30 yard-line. Then run down the clock to about 20-30 seconds left throwing drags and slants. Then score my touchdown. Easier than scoring fast and playing defense.

                              ---

                              The higher Tackle rating makes things a lot smoother. I just need to adjust my sliders for the running game. It was nice to see Santana Moss break a tackle using a finese move than trucking. Something I haven't seen yet. Even small players like Sproles were trucking big Likebackers until how I'm actually seeing some nice juke animations and sort of step back and watch the defender break his ankles. Haha. Tackle and Break Tackle at 75 feels a lot better than low 0-25 numbers. Thanks!

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