"Squad Role" to transfer targets ...

[SpHSpH]

How "binding" is this?

Sometimes my transfer targets ask for a larger projected role with my club. It is really easy to just select the next-higher choice from the list. But does the game "remember" whatever it was that I promised the player? What are the repercussions (if any) of promising a player one thing, but then delivering something less than your promise? Does this have an effect with morale (and, if it does, does morale have any real effect on gameplay anyway?)?

I just feel like I can tell everyone that they will be "a crucial 1st team player".

Is that right?

[johnfulanito]

Re: "Squad Role" to transfer targets ...

yes. if u dont play them enough they will tell u that what u promise is not happening

[Gnemi]

Re: "Squad Role" to transfer targets ...

It is absolutely binding and sometimes, quite honestly, it will bite you in the ***. It's just like real life in that regard, so I think it's a great feature of Career Mode.

For instance, I once signed a mediocre striker to my team but I didn't have the funds for a better one. He's now capped out at 80 OVR which isn't bad, but he demands 1st team action all the time, so I think I'm going to sell him during the next transfer window!

[Zangash]

Re: "Squad Role" to transfer targets ...

It affects morale, which, while it doesn't seem to affect you in-game, you'll be hard pressed to keep hold of the player as he'll want to leave.

[_ChicoBass]

Squad roles definitely come back to bite you in the grass if you don't fulfill it. That's why I always choose not to specify unless I'm buying a player for the starting 11

[eyeamg0dly]

Re: "Squad Role" to transfer targets ...

sometimes you can offer them more money for a lesser role. I have had a couple bite on it. Otherwise just look for an older player that looks like they are capped or almost capped out overall wise.

[SpHSpH]

Re: "Squad Role" to transfer targets ...

OK ... bummer ...

It makes it difficult to sign a "promising youngster" kind of player - I do not want to promise them "crucial 1st team action" if they are really more of a "future investment". I make an effort to rotate my squad as it is (I like to get everyone some minutes) - so maybe it will be OK for me.

I thought there were two (separate) reasons for the "no" ...

(1) "What will be my role in the squad?"

and

(2) "I do not want to move but I could be persuaded"

I thought that you fixed (1) by promising a larger role and you fixed (2) by offering a larger weekly salary. Are you saying that I can also fix (1) by simply offering more money?

And I always give 15% or 20% on the bonus - I have yet to see how this actually makes its way into the accounting - does it have any real effect on a player's willingness to agree to a deal?

[_ChicoBass]

I always choose "do not specify" unless the player demands to know his role. I don't give any bonuses either. Sounds like you can choose "squad rotation" or "future first team player" those roles seem to fit what you're looking for

[_ChicoBass]

Also, if your team is bigger (in football not size :P) than the players' current team, it's much easier to sign him. For example, the player will most likely agree to be a "sporadic 1st team player" for a 4-star team even though he's a "crucial 1st team player" of a 2 star team.

[OpTiOnMaStA]

Re: "Squad Role" to transfer targets ...

I always choose "do not specify" unless the player demands to know his role. I don't give any bonuses either. Sounds like you can choose "squad rotation" or "future first team player" those roles seem to fit what you're looking for

This is how I handle signing new players. I have had enough issues with "random" events where players want to leave my squad for not apparent reason that I don't need to have something like this come back and hurt my squad later on.

If I know they are going to be an everyday starter, though, and they ask for clarification of their role I will give it to them. Otherwise, I don't specify and usually it works.

[SpHSpH]

Re: "Squad Role" to transfer targets ...

So, for those of you who avoid specifying the role, what do you do when the player comes back and says he will not agree to the contract without knowing more about his place on the team? Do you just give up on signing the player? Do you respond with more money? Advice?

I think I may have made some hefty promises during my last round of transfer dealings ... I guess I will need to sit and watch and see what the repercussions may be. Oops.

[Gnemi]

Re: "Squad Role" to transfer targets ...

It depends on how you go about things when it comes to re-simming. I think the "engine" driving all these interactions is tedious and nonsensical at times, so I tend to just re-sim until I find what seems to be a driving point in the negotiation. Work on a balance of promising the player a role that you're happy with, he's happy *enough* with, and use money to work out any grievances.

I have definitely found you can shut a player up with more money, but you have to get to a role that's realistic if he's demanding to know. You can't just make him a bench player. If the player is young and has high potential, give him a squad rotation role. That tends to work more often than not.

[_ChicoBass]

So, for those of you who avoid specifying the role, what do you do when the player comes back and says he will not agree to the contract without knowing more about his place on the team? Do you just give up on signing the player? Do you respond with more money? Advice?

I think I may have made some hefty promises during my last round of transfer dealings ... I guess I will need to sit and watch and see what the repercussions may be. Oops.

I think this was already answered in this same thread... Lol

[_ChicoBass]

So, for those of you who avoid specifying the role, what do you do when the player comes back and says he will not agree to the contract without knowing more about his place on the team? Do you just give up on signing the player? Do you respond with more money? Advice?

I think I may have made some hefty promises during my last round of transfer dealings ... I guess I will need to sit and watch and see what the repercussions may be. Oops.

If the player demands to know what his role is and you're not planning on starting him regularly, you can choose "Future 1st team player" or "squad rotation player" or even "sporadic 1st team player" which basically means he'll start games sometimes but now always. I chose that role for a player and he's only complained twice in the whole season. Whenever he does complain, I just start him for the next game and he's back to happy. He only plays about once every 2 months.

[_ChicoBass]

Also, if your team is bigger (in football not size :P) than the players' current team, it's much easier to sign him. For example, the player will most likely agree to be a "sporadic 1st team player" for a 4-star team even though he's a "crucial 1st team player" of a 2 star team.

Don't forget about this as well