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  • Ramboooo
    Banned
    • Oct 2011
    • 695

    #1

    Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

    This happens so rarely in the NBA it's not even funny. If they're already close enough to dunk, you've already lost the battle and should just concede the dunk. A better defensive strategy would be to

    1) Stop penetration in the paint before they get momentum and position to dunk
    2) Steal the entry pass
    3) Go for the on the ball steal (if you have a player with active hands sig it helps more)
    4) Use your best post defender


    just sick of the "I can't block dunks, this game is broke!"

    While I'm at it. If you're not using 2k cam, you're not seeing A LOT of angles that will help you particularly on Defense and Rebounding. And also, just because you have a A+ release doesn't = automatic shot. You gotta also factor in hot and cold / momentum / shot selection.

    / rant
  • BUCKSWEATSHIRT
    Rookie
    • Nov 2012
    • 434

    #2
    Re: Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

    When we see block a dunk(at least when I say it)we mean you can't stop the dunk once the animation starts. You can be in perfect position and jump to contest the dunk, but the dunker will just morph through you to complete the dunk.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCms...P-hmPWObbxO_Yg

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    • Ramboooo
      Banned
      • Oct 2011
      • 695

      #3
      Re: Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

      Best D vs that I've found is to not go for the block in that case, but to position yourself before the dunk animation can begin. So instead of jumping, stay planted.

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      • Rockie_Fresh88
        Lockdown Defender
        • Oct 2011
        • 9621

        #4
        Re: Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

        Come on man LD2k said they were already aware of the issue....

        You can have perfect position and two defenders in the paint and still get dunked on.

        It seems like all contact is ignored .
        Last edited by Rockie_Fresh88; 01-30-2013, 09:23 PM.
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        • Ramboooo
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          • Oct 2011
          • 695

          #5
          Re: Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

          He said aware of the complaint I think, idk if he was saying it was a real issue. So how many dunks should we block in a game, like 5? Probably happens 5 times a month, if that, in the real nba.

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          • VDusen04
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2003
            • 13034

            #6
            Re: Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

            Originally posted by Ramboooo
            This happens so rarely in the NBA it's not even funny. If they're already close enough to dunk, you've already lost the battle and should just concede the dunk.
            I do not find blocked dunks to be very rare at all. Just randomly searching the first few results on YouTube for blocks by a rookie player averaging 20 minutes a game turned up:

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            And as someone who watches the Pistons night in and night out, that's just the tip of the blocked dunk iceberg. I haven't even mentioned Jason Maxiell yet. And that's just two players from one team out of 30. Blocked dunks happen and they're common. To make them impossible, even when a shot blocker has position and meets the offensive player at their peak, can be quite a detriment to a basketball simulation.

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            • Ramboooo
              Banned
              • Oct 2011
              • 695

              #7
              Re: Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

              Originally posted by mars5541
              Come on man LD2k said they were already aware of the issue....

              You can have perfect position and two defenders in the paint and still get dunked on.

              It seems like all contact is ignored .
              yeah if yer saying more contact I think it could use a bit more. but blocking a dunk happens rarely. guys shouldn't be jumping to contest a dunk they should be holding position.

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              • Rockie_Fresh88
                Lockdown Defender
                • Oct 2011
                • 9621

                #8
                Re: Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

                I say blocking dunks but really I mean interrupting the dunk animations too.
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                • VDusen04
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 13034

                  #9
                  Re: Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

                  Originally posted by Ramboooo
                  yeah if yer saying more contact I think it could use a bit more. but blocking a dunk happens rarely. guys shouldn't be jumping to contest a dunk they should be holding position.
                  I do not support your basketball logic. Contesting a dunk is very similar to contesting a layup. Yes, there are times where, if a defender has beaten an offensive player to a spot they should plant their feet and take a charge. Otherwise, no self respecting big man will just stand still and not attempt to stop a player from dunking. Another player sample:

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                  <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Raj6e2pSpEQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                  <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/9bBeGy5Lroo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                  <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CVfVd-2jiwQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                  <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/97SVQT_cBWY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                  <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/r-OZkyyT5mM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                  <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qGv01sqgq1Q" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                  Along with Drummond, those are just a few examples that happened to be posted on the first few pages of a YouTube search by two players from one team out of 30. I haven't even mentioned Ben Wallace yet.
                  Last edited by VDusen04; 01-30-2013, 09:39 PM.

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                  • Ramboooo
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                    • Oct 2011
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                    #10
                    Re: Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

                    Originally posted by VDusen04
                    I do not find blocked dunks to be very rare at all. Just randomly searching the first few results on YouTube for blocks by a rookie player averaging 20 minutes a game turned up:

                    And as someone who watches the Pistons night in and night out, that's just the tip of the blocked dunk iceberg. I haven't even mentioned Jason Maxiell yet. And that's just two players from one team out of 30. Blocked dunks happen and they're common. To make them impossible, even when a shot blocker has position and meets the offensive player at their peak, can be quite a detriment to a basketball simulation.
                    They happen, but not as much as ppl are making it sound - like it should happen every time a defender has position. Could it use a tiny boost? Sure. But we can also play better D. In blacktop I've gotten way more blocks not by jumping, but just holding position.

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                    • aussieicon91
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 338

                      #11
                      Re: Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

                      I like that clip of Garnett getting rejected lol

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                      • nova91
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 2074

                        #12
                        Re: Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

                        There are only a couple on instances where you should just flat out concede a dunk: risk of unnecessary injury to the dunker like on breakaway dunks or foul trouble on the part of the defender.
                        Last edited by nova91; 01-30-2013, 09:50 PM.
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                        • Rockie_Fresh88
                          Lockdown Defender
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 9621

                          #13
                          Re: Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

                          Originally posted by Ramboooo
                          They happen, but not as much as ppl are making it sound - like it should happen every time a defender has position. Could it use a tiny boost? Sure. But we can also play better D. In blacktop I've gotten way more blocks not by jumping, but just holding position.
                          Yeah but I've had the game since October and haven't blocked a dunk ever.
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                          • VDusen04
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                            #14
                            Re: Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

                            Originally posted by Ramboooo
                            They happen, but not as much as ppl are making it sound - like it should happen every time a defender has position. Could it use a tiny boost? Sure. But we can also play better D. In blacktop I've gotten way more blocks not by jumping, but just holding position.
                            I do not believe there is a widespread belief or suggestion that blocked dunks should occur every time a defender has position. I also disagree with your notion that, "blocked dunks are so rare it's not even funny". To me, quadruple doubles are so rare it's not even funny. Blocked dunks are something that happens almost every night in the NBA. We remember the spectacular blocks (Maxiell on Chandler) but there's lower key dunk blocks happening everywhere, we just tend not to notice them as much (similar to many of the Drummond examples).

                            Unfortunately, NBA 2K13 most often does not account for the ability to block a dunk at all. If a shot blocking defender has an angle, good positioning, and has room and time to explode and that offensive player attempts a layup, 2K will often allow that defender to block or bother the shot. However, under the same defensive circumstances, if that offensive player initiates a dunk command, and that defender again correctly attempts to contest, they have nearly a 0% chance of blocking the dunk. Instead, the offensive player will very likely push the defender backward in midair, defying physics, then dunk the ball cleanly through the rim, perhaps with a foul.

                            I think the better question would be, why wouldn't you think blocking a dunk is realistic?
                            Last edited by VDusen04; 01-30-2013, 09:53 PM.

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                            • JasonWilliams55
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                              • Jul 2012
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                              #15
                              Re: Why would you think blocking a dunk is realistic

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