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  • zkiesel
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    • Jan 2010
    • 363

    #1

    No Huddle Play-Calling Tips?

    Ok, so here's my problem: So many schools run some form of the no-huddle (whether it's fast-paced like Oregon, or a check-with-me like my Terps). I'm really not any good at playcalling in the no huddle. I'm much more comfortable in the pro-style playcall screen. But I want to get more comfortable with playcalling in the no-huddle.

    I also rarely call plays outside of the "Ask Coach" screen. I find it keeps me grounded and realistic with my playcalling.

    So here's what I want some tips on:

    1. How often do you change formations in the no-huddle? If you came out in a 4WR set, do you go to 3 or 5 WR sets, or stick with 4?

    2. How do you make sure to call accurate plays, and not use easy plays all the time?

    3. I know people here use Oregon. I know they run a lot of read-option type plays. How do you use their playbook?

    4. And lastly, my Terps run a no-huddle, check-with-me offense. Everyone rushes to the line and (90% of the time) sets, and then checks with the sideline to get the play. Is there any way to replicate that in the game?

    Thanks in advance!
  • brown11b
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    • Feb 2013
    • 9

    #2
    Re: No Huddle Play-Calling Tips?

    I generally run no-huddle from play 1 of the game. I dont switch formations when I run no huddle and attempt to keep a good run/pass balance.

    I generally will get a couple of first downs and then wont no huddle for a play so I can switch formations and allow tired players to sub out of the game.

    If you can get the other team in poor defensive matchup(too many DBs on the field against your 2 TE or FB sets or not enough DBs against your 4 WR sets) then dont stop using the no huddle and keep their mismatched defensive formation on the field as long as possible.

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    • seanzombiettu
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      • Nov 2012
      • 2

      #3
      Re: No Huddle Play-Calling Tips?

      Originally posted by brown11b
      If you can get the other team in poor defensive matchup(too many DBs on the field against your 2 TE or FB sets or not enough DBs against your 4 WR sets) then dont stop using the no huddle and keep their mismatched defensive formation on the field as long as possible.
      I don't fault you for this but it's essentially a cheese. In real football, even if a team runs a no-huddle you can swap out DB's for LB's etc. It's just a limitation of the game.

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      • jello1717
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        • Feb 2006
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        #4
        Originally posted by seanzombiettu
        I don't fault you for this but it's essentially a cheese. In real football, even if a team runs a no-huddle you can swap out DB's for LB's etc. It's just a limitation of the game.
        No you can't if the offense won't let you. If the offense doesn't change personnel, then they don't have to let the defense and if the D tries, then the O will snap it while they're changing. This is one of the philosophies of high tempo no huddle teams like Oregon.
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        • brown11b
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          • Feb 2013
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          #5
          Re: No Huddle Play-Calling Tips?

          Originally posted by seanzombiettu
          I don't fault you for this but it's essentially a cheese. In real football, even if a team runs a no-huddle you can swap out DB's for LB's etc. It's just a limitation of the game.

          It what way is it cheese? Before I start the drive the other team gets to see my personal on field. (i.e. 1 QB, 1 RB, 2 TE, 2 WR) If the other player still goes small with a nickel package then it was their choice.

          I focus on top TEs specifically so I can force the other team to pick their poison against me. If they go small then I will run it all over them. If they they go big (43, 34) then I am mor ethan happy to pass the ball.

          That isnt cheese, that is strategy. Many college and pro teams use the same idea if they have the correct players to do so.

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          • zkiesel
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            • Jan 2010
            • 363

            #6
            Re: No Huddle Play-Calling Tips?

            One of the biggest parts of Oregon's offense is mismatches. Hell, the Patriots rely on that a lot. It's not cheesing, it's realism. As for the substitution thing, defenses can't sub in the no-huddle unless the offense subs. Then the refs have to allow subs for each team.

            Anyways, I've been toying with the no-huddle and I've found one of the biggest keys is to use formations that match the personnel on the field. For example, not using 2 TE formations when you don't have 2 TEs on the field.

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            • dudo670
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              • May 2011
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              #7
              Re: No Huddle Play-Calling Tips?

              I would change formations only if its to formations of the same number of WRs. Make sure you stay balanced and keep the opponent on its heels.

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              • tommycoa
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                • Nov 2008
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                #8
                Re: No Huddle Play-Calling Tips?

                These are the rules I go by:
                If I make a first down, I run a play from the same formation and snap the ball fast.

                On 5-9 yard gains that don't result in 1st downs, I may change the formation.

                On incomplete passes and plays that gain 4 or less yards I abort no huddle and go to the play calling screen.
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                • jello1717
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                  • Feb 2006
                  • 5721

                  #9
                  Re: No Huddle Play-Calling Tips?

                  I run no huddle spread attacks in both of my dynasties. I have a CPB that has 25 SG and 4 pistol formations that are sorted so that all personnel groupings are together. Here's what I do with my no huddle:

                  I only huddle on incomplete passes, loss of yards, and when I want to change personnel.
                  I don't change personnel while no huddling (IE. WR -> TE , WR -> HB, HB <-> TE, etc). The only exceptions to this is moving TE <-> FB and occasionally (but rarely) HB ->WR (but not WR -> HB).
                  I always change formations and never run the same one back to back. This is possible with my CBP as I have so many formations. There are 5 basic personnel groupings in my pb and they all have several formations that I switch between while no huddling. I have the following basic groupings:
                  • (4 formations) 2 TE
                  • (3)2 HB
                  • (9)3WR,TE,HB
                  • (6)4WR, HB
                  • (3)Empty sets (2: 4WR,TE, and 1: 5 WR)

                  So I could come out with 3WR, 1TE, 1 HB (which I'd consider my base set) and run 9 plays in a row without ever using the same formation twice (but I'd never run 9 plays in a row since my guys would be exhausted and more injury prone). It's rare for me to run more than 5 plays in a row because my guys would be dying on me, even without using aggressive clock management.
                  Last edited by jello1717; 02-10-2013, 09:42 PM.
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                  • weaponz248
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                    • Feb 2013
                    • 211

                    #10
                    Re: No Huddle Play-Calling Tips?

                    I rarely use No Huddle. The only time I use it is in the Two minute drill. As for changing formations very rarely. Most i do is motion a TE out if I got a good match up. I play with Wisconsin and most the time I call a run play that I can audible out of into a pass play if the D is to my liking.
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                    • Panda
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                      • Jan 2011
                      • 12

                      #11
                      Re: No Huddle Play-Calling Tips?

                      To replicate #4 wait until everyone is set and then pick the play you want to use; if it is in the same formation the players are guaranteed to look at the sideline, it adds a nice touch of realism.

                      This should also help calm down your play calling as you'll have a little more time to call the play and possibly read the defense.

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                      • jello1717
                        All Star
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 5721

                        #12
                        Re: No Huddle Play-Calling Tips?

                        Originally posted by Panda
                        To replicate #4 wait until everyone is set and then pick the play you want to use; if it is in the same formation the players are guaranteed to look at the sideline, it adds a nice touch of realism.

                        This should also help calm down your play calling as you'll have a little more time to call the play and possibly read the defense.
                        This only works if your offensive coaching no huddle flag is set to "aggressive." Then, any audible from the same formation causes the players to look to the sideline if they're set. This can be using a formation audible or even just cancelling your audible or audibling to the same play.
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