Scouting For 1st Year Draft Tips?

[wiser66]

How are you guys going about scouting? I just had my 1st year player draft in my franchise and I didn't have too much success. I drafted some guys with A potential but their overalls are so low I felt like I didn't get enough out of it.

In my scouting I usually assign each scout to their area to find guys, then when they find a guy with 97 or higher potential I assign one of those players to the individual scouts until they fully scout them. Should I not get each player fully scouted because I don't think I had enough players that were on my radar by draft time? Just curious as to how everyone else goes about this.

[daddies3angels]

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ETA and there age is a big thing. Just cause they have 97 potential doesnt mean they a great spec cause if they have ETA of 5+ yrs away and are 23 already means they will be in minors till almost 27,28. Need to find guys that ETA are close and have high potential. Im trying to see what is best way to scout. I did what you did and feel that im missing alot of players so now im going to try and have 2 scouts "discover guys" while 2 scouts do the reports and see how that runs

[sls25]

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I am curious what others are doing as well, as this is the first year with this type of scouting. I had all four scouts discovering prospects for about the first two weeks of the season, discovering a significant amount of individuals. From then on, I have gone through who they discovered and assigned scouts to individuals that I might be interested in all the way up to the draft. I'm about 2 weeks away from the draft so I'm not sure how it will pan out. I feel like I have a good number of prospects fully scouted (including the top tier prospects who are already fully scouted). Any suggestions or things that you guys have found that work would be greatly appreciated. Loving the game so far.

[cardinal511]

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I haven't done the best scouting so far, but I have been able to draft a couple players who have developed into 90+ overall in 3 years. I usually draft a player with the closest ETA and the highest potential. I only draft players that are fully scouted, most often the top guys that are already given, unless I really want to risk reaching for a player. Also drafting younger players like an 18 year old is better than anyone over 21. Even if they have low overalls to start they will develop to be better than the older players. I've also found that progressions happen fairly fast. My players average increase was +25 overall during their first 2 years in my organization. The better players develop faster than that sometimes. I was doing auto training too, so they weren't growing because I was picking what areas to increase.

[PhillyWhat2011]

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When is the draft in the game? I think that would help with the above. This was you could have all 4 discover for like 4-6 weeks then just scout everyone that was found up until the draft.

Also, how long does it take to fully scout a guy in the game?

[timmuh1515]

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A couple players at 90 overall in 3 years! That seems a little too fast.

[Majingir]

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When is the draft in the game? I think that would help with the above. This was you could have all 4 discover for like 4-6 weeks then just scout everyone that was found up until the draft.

Also, how long does it take to fully scout a guy in the game?

3-4 days maybe?

I just had all my scouts end up scouting 1 position, then sort those guys by potential, and have each scout end up scouting all the 80+ potential players to see which one is really an 80+(or A) potential guy. I got through several positions doing that. Just hate how you can't scout between June(after draft) and March. Only April,May can you really scout.

Using that method I said, I managed to get every round of A and B potential guys. Just get best available player regardless of position. Cause in the end, if you don't need a certain pitcher in the future, you can always just trade that high potential prospect(or another guy on your team) for a diff position.

[WickedFastball]

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A couple players at 90 overall in 3 years! That seems a little too fast.

I disagree completely. Just look at the game itself. How many players are rated 90 or higher after 3 seasons?
Evan Longoria?
Joe Mauer?
Yu Darvish?
Steven Strasburg?
Mike Trout?
I can go on and on............

In fact I believe the old way of it taking forever for a player to develop was very very unrealistic.

(EDIT: I realize Longoria and Mauer have been around for more than 3 years now, but at the time they were rated very high in the game from almost the very beginning)

[cardinal511]

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If it helps the two that got to the 90's for me were 23 and 24. I have a couple players who will probably eclipse 90 in their 4th year that were 18 when I drafted them.

[mmorg]

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I seem to have had success through 4 drafts so far by doing something that is simple and pretty easy, in my opinion of course.

I get a scout assigned to each region and have him spend 2 days discovering players in this order:

Pitcher, Right Handed
Pitcher, Left Handed
Catcher, Power/Arm Strength
Infield, Contact/Power
Infield, Contact/Fielding
Outfield, Contact/Power
Outfield, Contact/Speed

Once I discover every player that fits what I find ideal for those positions I then start picking the guys who have high potentials and are young. I personally stay away from position players who are 22 and older. For Pitchers I tend to find that some of the 21 and 22 year old guys have high potential and have 1 or 2 year ETAs which is a great return on your investment.

Don't always discount the long ETAs either. Right now I have a 20 year old SS with A potential who started off as an 18 year old with a 7 year ETA. In just 2 years he has increased nearly all of his stats +15 each season and might be pushing Francisco Lindor out of the starting spot next year. The scouting and progression in this game is awesome this year. I hope they refine it more next year and make the scouting a little more in-depth.

[timmuh1515]

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I disagree completely. Just look at the game itself. How many players are rated 90 or higher after 3 seasons?
Evan Longoria?
Joe Mauer?
Yu Darvish?
Steven Strasburg?
Mike Trout?
I can go on and on............

In fact I believe the old way of it taking forever for a player to develop was very very unrealistic.

(EDIT: I realize Longoria and Mauer have been around for more than 3 years now, but at the time they were rated very high in the game from almost the very beginning)

You couldn't go on and on. Those guys are all on different teams (not the same team 3 years in a row). Darvish is 25 i believe and pitched in Japan for a long time before coming over.

Also keep in mind that Strasburg, Harper, Mauer were #1 picks and Longoria #3. I'm guessing this guy hasn't been drafting in the top 5 for three straight years.

I guess all i'm saying is...if you are able to draft 3 players in the 90s in back-to-back-to-back years then either there are way too many Mike Trouts in the game...or the CPU isn't drafting well.

[NateAndStuff]

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I disagree completely. Just look at the game itself. How many players are rated 90 or higher after 3 seasons?
Evan Longoria?
Joe Mauer?
Yu Darvish?
Steven Strasburg?
Mike Trout?
I can go on and on............

In fact I believe the old way of it taking forever for a player to develop was very very unrealistic.

(EDIT: I realize Longoria and Mauer have been around for more than 3 years now, but at the time they were rated very high in the game from almost the very beginning)

Yu Darvish wasn't even drafted and came over to the MLB already in his prime years...Longoria spent 2 years in the minors, Trout wasn't an impact player until the 4th year after being drafted. It is not a common thing for baseball players to become one of the best players in the league within three years of being drafted. The guy you quoted says he's drafted more than one guy who is now rated rated in the 90's within his first three years. That's highly unlikely.

[cardinal511]

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Yu Darvish wasn't even drafted and came over to the MLB already in his prime years...Longoria spent 2 years in the minors, Trout wasn't an impact player until the 4th year after being drafted. It is not a common thing for baseball players to become one of the best players in the league within three years of being drafted. The guy you quoted says he's drafted more than one guy who is now rated rated in the 90's within his first three years. That's highly unlikely.

They all came from my first draft class.
-SP Carlos Alonso 24 y/o 94 overall. He was a 1st round compensation pick.
-LF Julio Huerto 25 y/o 91 overall. 4th round pick. Has been 91-92 for a year now so might have maxed out there.
-SP Chris Angel 21 y/o 89 overall. 2nd round pick. He's down to a B potential so he might have maxed out already.
-SS Robert Kato 21 y/o 86 overall. 1st round pick. He's an A potential and will probably get there in his 4th year.

My 2nd year draft was no where close to this. I might have 1 good prospect, but he probably won't be an A for a while. My 3rd year I picked 2 SP's who are 74's after 1 year and Spring Training in the second.

[seanbon15]

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I think the players are advancing a little too fast as well. Development paths are anything but smooth IRL and all my guys are racing up the ladder.

[timmuh1515]

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They all came from my first draft class.
-SP Carlos Alonso 24 y/o 94 overall. He was a 1st round compensation pick.
-LF Julio Huerto 25 y/o 91 overall. 4th round pick. Has been 91-92 for a year now so might have maxed out there.
-SP Chris Angel 21 y/o 89 overall. 2nd round pick. He's down to a B potential so he might have maxed out already.
-SS Robert Kato 21 y/o 86 overall. 1st round pick. He's an A potential and will probably get there in his 4th year.

My 2nd year draft was no where close to this. I might have 1 good prospect, but he probably won't be an A for a while. My 3rd year I picked 2 SP's who are 74's after 1 year and Spring Training in the second.

I understand there are a lot of people who like to see their prospects quickly. It is a game after all and playing through multiple seasons can be difficult.

The results you are showing are WAY too quick for too many players. There are teams in baseball without 4 prospects who are expected to be 90+ overall players...let alone in one class!