Where are all the young all star SF's at?

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  • JasonMartin
    Pro
    • May 2012
    • 977

    #1

    Where are all the young all star SF's at?

    We've seen a lot of good players emerge from the drafts over the past few years but what amazes me is that there are few really good SF's coming out of the drafts.

    You see a lot of high potential PG's, PF's, C's who emerge and show talent and become really good players and all stars but I haven't seen a single SF who came beasting in the league.

    In 2007 you had KD but I would like to start with the 2008 NBA draft and further.


    2008 draft SF's (by position only, no changed positions)
    1st round 6th pick Gallinari
    1st round 8th pick Joe Alexander
    1st round 25th pick Batum
    1st round 28th pick Donte Green

    Gallinari and Batum are really good players, so you get 2 SF's out of the 1st round. In the meanwhile you got D-Rose, Westbrook, Love, Brook Lopez, Roy Hibbert, OJ Mayo, Ibaka who have become really good and important players to their team.


    2009 draft
    1st round 14th pick Earl Clark (plays PF now)
    1st round 15th pick Austin Daye
    1st round 22nd pick Victor Claver
    1st round 23rd pick Omri Casspi
    1st round 27th pick Demare Carroll
    1st round 30th pick Eyenga


    Nothing special or mind blowing.

    2010 draft
    1st round 2nd pick Evan Turner (SG position but plays at the SF)
    1st round 4th pick Wesley Johnson
    1st round 8th pick Aminu
    1st round 9th pick Hayward (plays the SG position a lot right?)
    1st round 10th pick Paul George (SG again nowadays)
    1st round 16th pick Luke Babbit
    1st round 24th pick Damion James
    1st round 26th pick Pondexter
    1st round 30th pick Lazer Hayward


    Paul George, all star player, but he doesn't play at the SF. Wesley Johnson hasn't been special, even though he has been picking up his game and has improved since he got more playing time.

    2011 draft
    1st round 15th pick Kawhli Leonard
    1st round 18th pick Chris Singleton
    1st round 30th pick Jimmy Butler

    Leonard showed he can play in his rookie year and he has improved this season. Butler has finally gotten some playing time and showed he can play ball this season.

    2012 draft
    1st round 2nd pick MKG
    1st round 7th pick Harrison Barnes
    1st round 15th pick Harkless

    3 rookies having a pretty OK season. MKG should become a great player.




    So my point is, in every draft since 2008 you got only a few SF's per 1st round and no one has become as big as eg. Derrick Rose or Westbrook or Paul George. No one has shown he can take over and become great in a short amount of time. I do believe young players like Leonard, MKG, Butler... will show greatness in 1 to a few years but it goes much slower than some of the other players in their draft class.

    I know a lot depends on the team, the coach, the players around you, the minutes you get (eg. Lillard in Portland). But still, why haven't we seen a true SF superstar yet? I'm not expecting the next Lebron or Durant but maybe a better/more consistent version of Rudy Gay.


    I find I'm going a bit light over this but I don't see a lot of SF's coming in the drafts. So why is there a lack of SF's?
    Last edited by JasonMartin; 03-13-2013, 11:36 AM.
  • Rockie_Fresh88
    Lockdown Defender
    • Oct 2011
    • 9621

    #2
    Re: Where are all the young all star SF's at?

    Paul George plays Sf nowadays ...

    The position has always had less Stars at that position than The others.
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    • JODYE
      JB4MVP
      • May 2012
      • 4834

      #3
      Re: Where are all the young all star SF's at?

      Maybe because these players that play that position have games tailored around athleticism more than say actual fundamental ability that is required to play the PG position, or to be a great PF.

      Just a rhetorical thought. It's sort of a tweener position with no real definition which I think is why you see few great SF, unless they are just exceptional all-around players without a true position. Durant the first that comes to mind.
      Last edited by JODYE; 03-13-2013, 01:16 PM.
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      • JazzMan
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        • Feb 2012
        • 13547

        #4
        Re: Where are all the young all star SF's at?

        To answer your question on Hayward, he plays more SG/PG than SF.
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        • cavsfan2
          MVP
          • Aug 2010
          • 3902

          #5
          Re: Where are all the young all star SF's at?

          Well this year there are a few promising SFs coming into the draft such as Muhammad, Bennett (might be more of a PF) and Porter.

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          • Macar91
            Running of the Bulls
            • Mar 2005
            • 2574

            #6
            Re: Where are all the young all star SF's at?

            Just wait for next year when Andrew Wiggins gets drafted. Jabari Parker, too, although he may be more of a PF in the NBA.
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            • ojandpizza
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 29807

              #7
              I wouldn't say there is any less young small forwards than there is any other position.. Other than point guards.

              A better question would be where are all the good young centers?

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              • JasonMartin
                Pro
                • May 2012
                • 977

                #8
                Re: Where are all the young all star SF's at?

                Monroe, Cousins, Vucevic, Kanter,...

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                • SteelersFreak
                  All Star
                  • May 2004
                  • 9582

                  #9
                  Re: Where are all the young all star SF's at?

                  Originally posted by JasonMartin
                  Monroe, Cousins, Vucevic, Kanter,...
                  Those are some great SMALL FORWARDS.
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                  • ojandpizza
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 29807

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JasonMartin
                    Monroe, Cousins, Vucevic, Kanter,...
                    Yeah that's a decent 4, but there is many more decent small forwards.

                    George, Durant, Leonard, Batum, DeRozan, Turner, Kidd-Gilchrist, Aminu, Parsons, Barnes, Evans, Beasley, Harris, Harkless, Gallinari, K. Thompson..

                    Hell even guys like Gay, Deng and LeBron are still young.

                    Honestly outside of PGs I can't think of any position that has more young talent than small forwards.. Power forwards could be close, but the real down area is SG and Centers.
                    Last edited by ojandpizza; 03-14-2013, 03:49 AM.

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                    • ojandpizza
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 29807

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SteelersFreak
                      Those are some great SMALL FORWARDS.
                      I think he was replying to what I said lol.. I asked where the young centers were

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                      • thedoob
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 242

                        #12
                        Re: Where are all the young all star SF's at?

                        Guys that play the 3 and 5 aren't getting developed anymore. You're either a rim runner(think Faried, Javale) or a guy that goes off the bounce(Rudy Gay, Iggy) and hasn't developed other skills. AAU ball has ruined fundamentals in the States and don't expect it to change. In 10-15 years we won't have true centers anymore. It's all dribble drive nowadays.
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                        • JasonMartin
                          Pro
                          • May 2012
                          • 977

                          #13
                          Re: Where are all the young all star SF's at?

                          Originally posted by SteelersFreak
                          Those are some great SMALL FORWARDS.
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