I apologize if this is the wrong forum for this discussion, but I've been playing MLB The Show for the first time and I am amazed at how in-depth their career mode is compared to Madden. My question is am I missing something? Is there an explanation as to why The Show is so far ahead of Madden in the franchise/career department? The Show has literally every aspect of real-life roster management in the game, while Madden doesn't even have things like RFAs, compensatory picks, or waivers. Is it that the franchise/career mode designers are that much better at San Diego Studios than at EA? Hopefully someone can lay it out for me.
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I don't think it has anything to do with creativity. What I'm asking is why can't EA replicate the real NFL roster management experience, while SCEA can replicate the real MLB roster management experience, when the MLB one is more complex. I'm sorry you weren't able to understand the question.Comment
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I understood the question, but all you're going to get around here is subjective opinions of a handful of gamers. If you truly want to know why one dev team focuses more on one particular aspect of their game, you'll need to talk to the dev teams directly. Past that, what's to wonder about and discuss? What you see is what you get with any game, that's just the way it is.Comment
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And I'm ok with the subjective opinions of a handful of gamers. I'll never get a straight answer from a dev team as to why their career mode lacks depth so I'd rather get some opinions from others. Maybe someone on here knows of a limitation EA faces that SCEA doesn't? I don't know, which is why I'm asking.Comment
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Nothing to do with limitations. EA's designs their sports games primarily for online botton-mashing youngsters, whereas SCEA builds a quality offline game for intelligent adults who appreciate the intricacies of the sport. SCEA is pretty much unique in that regard.Comment
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That's what I believe to be true as well, but then what do the career mode designers at Madden do all day? I would be more inclined to accept this explanation, but Madden has a team dedicated to the career mode. This is the root of what I'm getting at. The Madden career mode team seems to be much less efficient than The Shows designers.Comment
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Same deal. EA sports games are online-oriented, designed to be simple fun for the younger gaming crowd. Offline and realism-depth isn't their focus anymore. The Show is an offline-oriented game designed for older gamers. Just look at their manager mode for example, no EA game has anything like that and probably never will.Comment
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Should mention Konami with PES is the other game dev besides SCEA that puts out an offline-oriented sports video game product with any real depth and designed for thinking adults. But that's it (I don't play basketball so I don't know about 2K).Last edited by Baile; 03-19-2013, 05:49 AM.Comment
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It's worth noting that Connected Careers mode in Madden is brand-new this year, anything that previously existed in a Madden career / franchise mode was completely thrown out and the team started fresh. Starting over naturally puts one behind other games. That said, I don't think they made the wrong decision.Comment
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no, see thats a lie. they did NOT start it all fresh. its the same darn mode its just glossed up.
example" the hall of fame". why is it that AGAIN, you cant get a drafted or created player at OL,DL,OLB,DB into the hall of fame without 10-15 super bowls? its the SAME thing!!!!
its like this throughout the entire game, as stated in other threads, teams with franchise qb's taken in rd 1 the year before, using FA AND the 1st round of the draft to bring in two 80 plus qb's. the scheme system completely screwing up EVERYTHING
im sorry, you can claim they changed everything with CCM, I just see a pig with lipstick360-Chiefs-)Comment
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You can't prove this.
In any case, I offer this as counterpoint:
The draft experience and build-up is all-new to Madden.
The idea of draft prospect storylines is all-new to Madden.
The idea of team personalities via player and team schemes is all-new to Madden.
The idea of being able to simultaneously play franchise, online franchise, and superstar in a multiplayer setting is all-new to Madden.
The staged free agency bidding system is all-new to Madden.
The XP upgrade system for players is all-new to Madden.
The XP upgrade system for coaches is all-new to Madden.
The Legacy Score system is all-new to Madden.
It's an entirely new gameplay experience compared to franchise mode or owner mode of old, and it's immediately obvious. It's so apparent that every time the game boots up there's a reminder from the EA news server as to where the mode is.
Frankly, neither of us can prove what EA Austin did or didn't do, and there's no reason not to take Josh Looman and crew at face value when he and his colleagues say they threw out everything that previously existed. Why else did features such as editing players and fantasy draft not exist initially? It's not in EA's interest to just yank entire working features from an already functional mode, if indeed they didn't rework it as you claim.
It's not perfect, and certainly there are issues which need to be ironed out, but EA Austin delivered exactly what they promised for Madden NFL 13, an entirely new career experience. It's immediately obvious that CCM is entirely new and different.Comment
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I can prove it. EA regurgitates old modes and bullet-points it on the next years edition. give me 2 days.Comment
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I agree 100%. I see CCM as nothing more than some basic franchise improvements/tweaks dressed up in a new name and menu structure. The potential is there with the CCM website and the intermingling of modes but isn't that just the same old song and dance with EA......
The potential is there. And then they fail. To date....I've seen nothing new or innovative from Madden.GT EarAssassin
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