Craig Kimbrel

[JayD]

What should I do for Kimbrel's third pitch in his repertoire? I'm pretty sure having his two seamer with zero velocity is a mistake but at the same time I don't even know if he throws a two seamer. I'm pretty sure Kimbrel has a four seamer, slider, and a curveball in his repertoire.

[xSiQ]

Re: Craig Kimbrel

I've noticed this. Also there is a Philly pitcher with the same problem, I think its Tyler Cloyd.

Kimbrel's average speed for his 2-seamer last season was about 97.1 mph, so that's about a 97 Velocity rating in game.

[CKW11]

Re: Craig Kimbrel

At the moment I've left it and kinda using it as a change up but I plan on changing it to a curveball. According to fan graphs he's thrown a 4 seamer, slider and a curve.

[xSiQ]

Re: Craig Kimbrel

At the moment I've left it and kinda using it as a change up but I plan on changing it to a curveball. According to fan graphs he's thrown a 4 seamer, slider and a curve.

Interesting... I just checked fan graphs and it says 4-seam/Slider/2-seam (with average speed of 97.2mph)

[CKW11]

Re: Craig Kimbrel

Interesting... I just checked fan graphs and it says 4-seam/Slider/2-seam (with average speed of 97.2mph)

I could be misinterpreting the info (which is a very strong possibility) but under the "Pitch Type" section it says in 2010 & 11 he threw a 4 seamer and a slider and in 2012 he threw a 4 seamer and a curveball.

[xSiQ]

Re: Craig Kimbrel

I could be misinterpreting the info (which is a very strong possibility) but under the "Pitch Type" section it says in 2010 & 11 he threw a 4 seamer and a slider and in 2012 he threw a 4 seamer and a curveball.

Odd. I see what you are referring to, I was looking at the Pitch f/x Pitch Type.
Under the Pitch Type that you were looking at, it has a 4-seam and Curve but no Slider for 2012 and I'm 100% sure he threw a slider last year.
I don't ever recall seeing him throw a Curveball but I can't say I have watched a ton of Braves games, I would put my money on the 2-seamer.

[Knight165]

Re: Craig Kimbrel

I guess you can see how SCEA has a problem with this.
Even sites dedicated to providing this info give conflicting and sometimes vague(they've gotten better in giving breakdowns of FB's....it used to just say FB for everything(2S/4S/Cutter) reports.

M.K.
Knight165

[CKW11]

Re: Craig Kimbrel

Odd. I see what you are referring to, I was looking at the Pitch f/x Pitch Type.
Under the Pitch Type that you were looking at, it has a 4-seam and Curve but no Slider for 2012 and I'm 100% sure he threw a slider last year.
I don't ever recall seeing him throw a Curveball but I can't say I have watched a ton of Braves games, I would put my money on the 2-seamer.

So what do you plan on doing? Just upping the velocity on the 2 seamer? Not around my PS at the moment but with the way pitch velocity is this year would increasing his 2 seam velocity increase the velocity on his 4 seamer and slider as well?

[xSiQ]

Re: Craig Kimbrel

I guess you can see how SCEA has a problem with this.
Even sites dedicated to providing this info give conflicting and sometimes vague(they've gotten better in giving breakdowns of FB's....it used to just say FB for everything(2S/4S/Cutter) reports.

M.K.
Knight165

I'm happy SCEA decided to work with MLB.com and use their Gameday Pitch f/x stats. I know that's not the most popular thing around these forums, but I've always thought their data was very accurate. MLB 13 has been very impressive concerning the pitch repertoires and a much needed improvement from years past.

[xSiQ]

Re: Craig Kimbrel

So what do you plan on doing? Just upping the velocity on the 2 seamer? Not around my PS at the moment but with the way pitch velocity is this year would increasing his 2 seam velocity increase the velocity on his 4 seamer and slider as well?

Yes, I plan on increasing the 2-seam velocity and I'm not entirely sure how that affects the other pitches which I will look into.

[HighCmpPct]

Re: Craig Kimbrel

You think it's bad to pitch with, it's really almost impossible to hit that "junk ball" 2 Seamer they gave him lol.

[decga]

Re: Craig Kimbrel

What should I do for Kimbrel's third pitch in his repertoire? I'm pretty sure having his two seamer with zero velocity is a mistake but at the same time I don't even know if he throws a two seamer. I'm pretty sure Kimbrel has a four seamer, slider, and a curveball in his repertoire.

According to wikipedia & brooksbaseball.net. Kimbrel does not throw a 2SFB. I added a the curveball as his third pitch. Also he does possesses one the game's most dominating sliders. I might just go with his pitching repertoire I used in 12".

[scotty1011]

Re: Craig Kimbrel

Gameday Pitch f/x a couples years ago was even better they would give the degrees of tilt of the pitch but have taken it out now. But even with the degrees of tilt displayed it was still impossible to tell the difference between 4-Seam and 2-Seam. I guess now the only way to tell the difference is by inches of break but this isn’t absolute either.

[xSiQ]

Re: Craig Kimbrel

Gameday Pitch f/x a couples years ago was even better they would give the degrees of tilt of the pitch but have taken it out now. But even with the degrees of tilt displayed it was still impossible to tell the difference between 4-Seam and 2-Seam. I guess now the only way to tell the difference is by inches of break but this isn’t absolute either.

Gameday displays the difference between 4-seam and 2-seam along with most other pitches...
Cutter, Splitter, Sinker, Slider, Curveball, Changeup, Knuckleball, Knuckle-Curve, Forkball, Screwball, Eephus
The only thing it doesn't do is distinguish whether a changeup is a circle-change or straight change, slider / slurve, curveball / 12-6 curve / sweeping curve.
So you don't really need to go by inches of break to determine a pitch.

[AUTiger1]

Re: Craig Kimbrel

Kimbrel throws a combination slider/curveball. I think he calls it a curveball but it looks a lot like a slider so on most sites it's listed as a slider.

Here is a blog post that was written last year about it.

http://capitolavenueclub.com/?p=5287