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  • ObiJuanKenobi
    Rookie
    • Mar 2013
    • 20

    #1

    Are players being over payed???

    So as the NFL off season rolls on and more and more contracts get inked it brings up a question, are some of them over the top and to much for a particular player?

    Three signings that are controversial and pop into people's heads immediately are Tony Romo, Joe Flacco, and Mike Wallace. These men are being paid top dollar for their services, one of which is a record breaking deal. Now it seems like most big contracts end up being a bust and a player cashing in at the right time in their career, and some just make you scratch your head at what management was thinking. So here I will give you my opinion on if I think these signings were a bust or a good deal. Also feel free to leave your opinions on what you think about these signings and any other signings. So lets get started.

    Joe Flacco

    Six year/$120.6 million
    $52 million guaranteed
    $29 million signing bonus

    This is the biggest contract signed by any player in NFL history. Not surprising it would go to the reigning Super Bowl MVP. The only problem is the Ravens went 10-6 in the regular season and made the playoffs by the skin of their teeth. Top producing quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady do not get paid near this but are the best players when their teams step on to the field, can you really say that about Flacco? He is mediocre at best and I think a desperation move by the Ravens seeing there is really no talent at qb out there. Personally I do not see Flacco living up to the standards of this contract.

    Mike Wallace

    5 year/$60 million
    $27 million guaranteed
    $11 million signing bonus

    To me this was the best deal out of the three. Not saying it was good, just the best out of these. The Dolphins desperately needed a wide receiver who could stretch the field and they definitely got that in Mike Wallace with his blazing speed, but $60 million for a man who didn't even break the thousand yard mark seems a little steep. And it's not like he had a slouch throwing him the ball. Obviously this was a needed move and one that only time will really tell if it will work out. If I were the Dolphins though and were that desperate for a deep threat receiver I would have looked to the draft for somebody like Cordarelle Patterson or DeAndre Hopkins.

    Tony Romo

    6 year/$108 million
    $55 million guaranteed
    $25 million signing bonus

    This to me has to be one of the most over payed players in NFL history. Paying this kind of money to a man who hasn't had a double digit winning season since 2009 and is one of the most inconsistent quarterbacks in the league is just ridiculous. 2009 is also the last time the Cowboys made it to the playoffs. This is one of those times you are just left scratching your head wondering what the heck just happend. As long as Jerry Jones is alive the Cowboys will not win another Super Bowl.
  • NateDogPack12
    Go Pack Go!!
    • Jul 2011
    • 1271

    #2
    Each situation is unique and has to be viewed as such. Not really thread-worthy IMO. This year is no different than any other.
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    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #3
      Re: Are players being over payed???

      Generally yes, but at least it's not like baseball where money seems to grow on trees. At least in the NFL you can cut guys when they start to become unproductive and save the aggravation that way.
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      • mestevo
        Gooney Goo Goo
        • Apr 2010
        • 19556

        #4
        Re: Are players being over payed???

        In order to really make this argument you'd need multiple players that actually see all of the money in those $100m contracts. The 3 in the OP likely won't prior to restructures (which could lead to circumstances where they are released instead) and if they are worth retaining for the life of the contract then no, they're probably not overpaid.

        I could sign a contract at work that doubles my salary every year, at some point I've got to take a pay cut, change the terms of my pay, or get fired. Many NFL contracts force the same kind of decision.

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        • dsallupinyaarea
          Rookie
          • Jan 2009
          • 2764

          #5
          Re: Are players being over payed???

          Joe Flacco and Tony Romo gave their teams temporary cap relief and the Dolphins aren't in cap trouble.

          I guess my question is, why do you care if it isn't in relation to the cap? Why count someone elses money? Trust me when I say these contracts won't threaten the profitability of any of these teams.
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          • Bmore Irish
            The Future
            • Jul 2011
            • 3461

            #6
            Re: Are players being over payed???

            i mean if you're gonna look at it from a philosophical standpoint then sure, most entertainers are overpaid. but this is consumer capitalism man! lol. we're the ones paying them, essentially.

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            • NateDogPack12
              Go Pack Go!!
              • Jul 2011
              • 1271

              #7
              Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea
              Joe Flacco and Tony Romo gave their teams temporary cap relief and the Dolphins aren't in cap trouble.

              I guess my question is, why do you care if it isn't in relation to the cap? Why count someone elses money? Trust me when I say these contracts won't threaten the profitability of any of these teams.
              Well, to be fair, the Phins are screwed in 2014 and beyond with their crazy spending this offseason. Take a look at their 2014-2015 cap projections.
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              • Shibito
                MVP
                • Jul 2011
                • 1987

                #8
                Re: Are players being over payed???

                They've been overpaid for years.

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                • Clemsonpanther
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 1028

                  #9
                  Re: Are players being over payed???

                  No,
                  A) I'm a big believer in the ---- ------, (semi political, trying to stay in forum rules)
                  B) they earn it
                  C) at least we have a salary cap

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                  • JayBee74
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 22989

                    #10
                    Re: Are players being over payed???

                    Originally posted by ObiJuanKenobi

                    Joe Flacco

                    Six year/$120.6 million
                    $52 million guaranteed
                    $29 million signing bonus

                    This is the biggest contract signed by any player in NFL history. Not surprising it would go to the reigning Super Bowl MVP. The only problem is the Ravens went 10-6 in the regular season and made the playoffs by the skin of their teeth. Top producing quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady do not get paid near this but are the best players when their teams step on to the field, can you really say that about Flacco? He is mediocre at best and I think a desperation move by the Ravens seeing there is really no talent at qb out there. Personally I do not see Flacco living up to the standards of this contract.
                    Of course NFL players are overpaid!!! ALL OF THEM!!

                    Please guys, stop the dribble about Flacco being mediocre at best-his post season alone stops that lame argument in it's tracks. And as far as Top Producing QBs, what are we playing, fantasy football?

                    I guess you think Matt Stafford was a top producing QB until he stopped producing last year.

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                    • ObiJuanKenobi
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 20

                      #11
                      Re: Are players being over payed???

                      Originally posted by JayBee74
                      Of course NFL players are overpaid!!! ALL OF THEM!!

                      Please guys, stop the dribble about Flacco being mediocre at best-his post season alone stops that lame argument in it's tracks. And as far as Top Producing QBs, what are we playing, fantasy football?

                      I guess you think Matt Stafford was a top producing QB until he stopped producing last year.
                      So you are basically telling me there is no difference between any QB in the league and they all have the same impact when they walk on the field. I guess when you mention Aaron Rodgers name you can't forget to name greats like Brady Quinn and Charlie Batch. It is pretty obvious you are upset I said Flacco is mediocre which is an OPINION like I said everything I wrote would be, and to post your own. But instead of posting something on topic like everybody else you say there is no such thing as production in a QB.

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                      • wwharton
                        *ll St*r
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 26949

                        #12
                        Re: Are players being over payed???

                        Actually, all of these have already been discussed. Flacco's situation is in a huge thread not even a month old. If you want this thread to stay open, make it about players in general being overpaid. Rehashing the same arguments will get it locked.

                        If you want to discuss those things, just find the appropriate thread (read it first to see if you even need to post... as in if you still have something new to add after reading).

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                        • ObiJuanKenobi
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 20

                          #13
                          Re: Are players being over payed???

                          Originally posted by wwharton
                          Actually, all of these have already been discussed. Flacco's situation is in a huge thread not even a month old. If you want this thread to stay open, make it about players in general being overpaid. Rehashing the same arguments will get it locked.

                          If you want to discuss those things, just find the appropriate thread (read it first to see if you even need to post... as in if you still have something new to add after reading).
                          Well the point of this thread was for any over payed player and for anybody to insert their opinion on what I wrote or post any other signing they think is over paying. It seems like people just want to reply with one sentence instead of explaining why or if there is anything else they want to bring up.

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                          • wwharton
                            *ll St*r
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 26949

                            #14
                            Re: Are players being over payed???

                            Originally posted by ObiJuanKenobi
                            Well the point of this thread was for any over payed player and for anybody to insert their opinion on what I wrote or post any other signing they think is over paying. It seems like people just want to reply with one sentence instead of explaining why or if there is anything else they want to bring up.
                            And I'm explaining to you why. You went into detail about things that have been discussed to death already here... makes no sense for people to rewrite opinions they've already hashed out. Jaybee took the bait a little but there's a reason that wasn't too your satisfaction. You can find the Flacco thread to read the discussion you're interested in there... the transaction thread for the discussion going on now about Romo.

                            To be more clear about my last post, the only reason I didn't already lock this thread is bc some people really did respond to the title of your topic, "Are players being overpaid?" rather than the content of your post, which is about topics that have already heated up and cooled off. In short, the opinions of what you wrote can be found by just searching the forum.

                            The thought on overall players is unique (somewhat)... role with that if you want to keep this thread open.

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                            • JayBee74
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 22989

                              #15
                              Re: Are players being over payed???

                              Originally posted by Bmore Irish 69
                              i mean if you're gonna look at it from a philosophical standpoint then sure, most entertainers are overpaid. but this is consumer capitalism man! lol. we're the ones paying them, essentially.
                              Yeah, it's just that the super rich guys (owners) are giving up a larger portion of their take to the rich guys (players).

                              Just go back a few years and look at the average NFL salary escalate.

                              1986-$198,00, 1993-$800,000, 2012- $2,000,000

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