No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

[torpidbeaver]

Disclaimer: I'm playing as the Mariners, who don't have a whole lot of blazing speed.

But I'm knocking some nice balls down the corners, over the bags, into those deep pockets of dirt and foul chalk, and it seems like the outfielders are either somehow always shaded to protect the corners on the times I'm hitting them there, or they've got rocket packs jammed up their asses and manage to grab the balls before I've even touched first.

The lack of triples I can generally accept as a casualty of playing as a slower team, but the number of times I've knocked a ball into the corner but been cut down trying to "stretch" a hit into a double has been hair-pullingly frustrating. That's to say nothing of the perfect lines the outfielders play on nearly every ball, so that I'll smack a ball two feet off from the top of the wall, and the outfielder manages to grab it on the first carom and fire it in to cut me down at second.

I started out with... someone's sliders where they recommended Fielder Run Speed to be set to 2, and Reaction to be bumped to 6. I've tried knocking down Reaction to 5, and am about to push it again to 4, but I'm worried that the infielders will turn into Beer League softball players.

[ruxpinke]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

also cut their arm strength a bit, if you havent already

[Scribe1980]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Baserunner speed to 6; have been doing that since Show 11.

A player with 80+ speed should never be cut down at 2nd base on a ball in the corner or the gap. Ever.

[ghm125]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

playing as reds and have had numerous double and a few triples from guys who cant motor...plus I am aggressive when running bases ..takes a good throw to get ya!

[Bobhead]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

If you feel not enough gap hits are making it to the wall, then fielder speed is the problem.

If they are making it to the wall but you're still not making it to 2nd base, then Arm strength is definitely the issue.

It could be a combination of both. And in my opinions/observations, it definitely is both.

I'm actually currently playing with Fielder Run Speed at 0, and Arm Strength at 3. I'm not sure whether I'm happy with 0 yet, but I'd definitely recommend you try a Speed of 1 and a Arm Strength of 4 for now. (BR speed at 2)

I've left Reaction alone though. I have not found any strong incentive to lower Reaction.

[turty11]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

i play as boston, and even with ellsbury i can BARELY get to second.. BARELY. and that is with all fielding sliders at 4.

i got a triple once, and it was only because the ball rolled deep in fenway and the fielder fumbled the ball picking it up

[satchmykels]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

I haven't messed with the sliders at all and am seeing a reasonable number of both doubles and triples. Even hit 2 triples in one game with Nishioka (my Twins need all the help we can get, to the point I'm even re-importing busts, haha) a week or so back.

[kehlis]

I haven't messed with the sliders at all and am seeing a reasonable number of both doubles and triples. Even hit 2 triples in one game with Nishioka (my Twins need all the help we can get, to the point I'm even re-importing busts, haha) a week or so back.

But are you seeing them down the lines?

I too see plenty of gap doubles/triples but hits down the line are pretty much exclusively singles.

[G3no_11]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Yes, the fielding sliders have to be tweaked in my opinion. I never really messed with sliders until last season and man did it make a difference. Much more realistic game play.

Arm strength, speed, and I cut reaction down a notch or two as well. But arm strength and speed are very important.

With stock sliders, OF's routinely cut above average runners out at home when it should be an easy run. There are a ton of Tulo arms in the infield with players that are below average defenders. Lowering arm strength also helps with the excessive amount of double plays.

[torpidbeaver]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Sorry, forgot to mention that I've been playing with arm strength knocked down to 4 already. I guess I'll try lowering fielder speed and upping baserunner speed.

[Kamasutra]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Gonna go against the grain and say you don't have to mess with sliders at all. In fact, this year, I'm quite happy because haven't had to touch sliders (except on pickoffs/steals)

Using Allstar hitting and ALlstar pitching.

I would say you need to improve your roster and have someone with higher contact/speed/baserunning skills. Also this is totally dependant on how you hit and what type of hitting you use I suppose (zone etc..)

I play with the Jays, Reyes currenty leads the league in triples AND doubles, as he should. Without necessarly getting a player of that caliber, if you can trade or bring up someone of that nature, you will be successful

I use timing and it's all about hitting the gaps, splitting the outfielders. If you've got impeccable timing, you will get plenty of doubles and sometimes triples on the default slider settings.

[lhslancers]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

If you feel not enough gap hits are making it to the wall, then fielder speed is the problem.

If they are making it to the wall but you're still not making it to 2nd base, then Arm strength is definitely the issue.

It could be a combination of both. And in my opinions/observations, it definitely is both.

I'm actually currently playing with Fielder Run Speed at 0, and Arm Strength at 3. I'm not sure whether I'm happy with 0 yet, but I'd definitely recommend you try a Speed of 1 and a Arm Strength of 4 for now. (BR speed at 2)

I've left Reaction alone though. I have not found any strong incentive to lower Reaction.

Since we don't have separate fielding sliders for IF and OF lowering the Fielder Speed and leaving Reaction at default is reasonable. I like 4 for Arm Strength and BR near or at default is OK.

[treyraq]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

I'm seeing some pretty realistic results with
Fielder Speed/Reaction/Throwing all down about 3 clicks

I also lowered Baserunner Speed 1 click to 4 I think.

[woody2goody]

Potentially stupid question but are you hitting the ball too hard? Is it reaching the fielders too quickly?

[kehlis]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Potentially stupid question but are you hitting the ball too hard? Is it reaching the fielders too quickly?

If you hit the ball too hard down the line there is no way it should get to the OF too fast is the point. The problem is even if you hit the ball hard, it seems to die fast in addition to the fact that the OF's seem to get to it too fast.

Hitting it extremely hard should get to the wall every time UNLESS the OF's are guarding the lines.