Pitching Placement

[bubs3141]

When pitching with an off speed pitch do I place the ball cursor in the glove? Or do I place the last little arrow at the end of the ball cursor in the middle of the glove? I never did understand this.

[birthday_massacre]

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When pitching with an off speed pitch do I place the ball cursor in the glove? Or do I place the last little arrow at the end of the ball cursor in the middle of the glove? I never did understand this.

The little arrows but I would suggest not listening to the catcher, why would you want to tip off the CPU where you will be throwing.

[kehlis]

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The little arrows but I would suggest not listening to the catcher, why would you want to tip off the CPU where you will be throwing.

Throwing the pitch your catcher calls is not tipping the opposing batter.

Edit: But to add to that, don't be afraid to call your catcher off from time to time, they do a decent job of calling a game but if they throw down a call you're not comfortable with don't be afraid to throw something else.

They like to call back door curves and sliders which I've seen more disaster with than success so I tend to shy away from those on most occasions.

[birthday_massacre]

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Throwing the pitch your catcher calls is not tipping the opposing batter.

You are throwing it where the CPU wants, and if you are listening to the catcher for the whole game the CPU is going to learn your tendencies and that is pretty much tipping the batter as far as video games goes.

You are better off throwing it where you want and not where the CPU tells you they want it

I found I pitch much better when I am not putting the pitch where the catcher calls for it

[kehlis]

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You are throwing it where the CPU wants, and if you are listening to the catcher for the whole game the CPU is going to learn your tendencies and that is pretty much tipping the batter as far as video games goes.

You are better off throwing it where you want and not where the CPU tells you they want it

I found I pitch much better when I am not putting the pitch where the catcher calls for it

That's not true though and see my edit above where I agree with you in certain area's.

The catcher though attempts to call a balanced game and I see times where he strays from that from time to time.


Definately have no problem shaking him off from time to time but I think where I disagree with you is you are using a statement like CPU and lumping your teammates AI together with your opponents AI and that's not true.

They work independently.

[Bobhead]

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You are throwing it where the CPU wants, and if you are listening to the catcher for the whole game the CPU is going to learn your tendencies and that is pretty much tipping the batter as far as video games goes.

You are better off throwing it where you want and not where the CPU tells you they want it

I found I pitch much better when I am not putting the pitch where the catcher calls for it

There's no connection at all between the pitch suggestion feature and the actual AI of the batter at the plate. This has been confirmed by developers several times.

And the glove represents where the ball will be caught... where it will end up. So if the glove is below the strike zone, calling for a sinker, you'd aim the sinker in the strike zone, so it breaks down into the glove.

Edit: I see I was too slow!

[TheKT]

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The little arrows but I would suggest not listening to the catcher, why would you want to tip off the CPU where you will be throwing.

I don't think you would be tipping off the CPU any more by pitching the ball where the catcher wants you to or not. The "CPU" knows where the ball is going anyway. You input the commands but it still figures out where the ball is going. The CPU could get a hit every time if it wanted to.

[G3no_11]

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I think someone is a little paranoid about the CPU being out to get them.....

[gjgoltz]

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I don't think you would be tipping off the CPU any more by pitching the ball where the catcher wants you to or not. The "CPU" knows where the ball is going anyway. You input the commands but it still figures out where the ball is going. The CPU could get a hit every time if it wanted to.

Absolutely this!

[rjackson]

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There is a hidden rating for how well catcher's call a game so keep that in mind. I am speculating that it would basically determine how often they deter off of game theory.

I find it interesting that back door and front door sliders work well for me but trying to get them to chase one breaking away is a guaranteed ball and trying to jam the CPU on one breaking in equals disaster for me!

[3fiddy]

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There is a hidden rating for how well catcher's call a game so keep that in mind. I am speculating that it would basically determine how often they deter off of game theory.

I find it interesting that back door and front door sliders work well for me but trying to get them to chase one breaking away is a guaranteed ball and trying to jam the CPU on one breaking in equals disaster for me!

High risk / High reward. If only I could master that inside slider ..

[Heroesandvillains]

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There is a hidden rating for how well catcher's call a game so keep that in mind. I am speculating that it would basically determine how often they deter off of game theory.

I find it interesting that back door and front door sliders work well for me but trying to get them to chase one breaking away is a guaranteed ball and trying to jam the CPU on one breaking in equals disaster for me!

The only hidden rating I'm aware of is for pickoffs (I believe Knight discussed its existence on here around last year or so ago...sorry Knight if it wasn't you). But even on this hidden rating I never personally asked a Dev about this at CD, or read one of them discussing it on OS so I cannot confirm it.

This is the second time in the last few days I've read someone state as fact that a catcher game calling rating exists. Could you provide me a link to where you saw this?

[3fiddy]

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I rarely follow the catchers advice so I havnt given MLB 13 a fair shake but I have thrown wht Yadier Molina called a few times and have gotten some funny swinging strike 3s. Def his game called is better than my backup.

[rjackson]

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The only hidden rating I'm aware of is for pickoffs (I believe Knight discussed its existence on here around last year or so ago...sorry Knight if it wasn't you). But even on this hidden rating I never personally asked a Dev about this at CD, or read one of them discussing it on OS so I cannot confirm it.

This is the second time in the last few days I've read someone state as fact that a catcher game calling rating exists. Could you provide me a link to where you saw this?

I didn't know about the hidden rating for pickoffs! Thx for the info. You bring up a good objective point if this is not actually confirmed.

I read about the hidden game calling rating last year at some point, believe it was a CD guy but not a dev--someone I thought to be reputable. Now, I didn't spend a lot of time on this but maybe me and other misinterpreted or had our memories altered over time (not by aliens, just not remembering exactly because of time) this thread? http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-bad-game.html

Thanks for pointing this out, I appreciate the objectivity and didn't even realize at the time I stated it so matter of factly other than perhaps to address the absurdity in this thread. I'm categorizing this back in to hypothesis for now because I don't have the time or patience to look into this further, tbh.