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  • notrekane
    Rookie
    • Jul 2012
    • 15

    #1

    My League Needs Help!!! (advice)

    Since NCAA 2010 up until NCAA 2013, the same 7 guys I'm friends with and I have run the same NCAA League. We have had a total of 25 seasons over the span of the 4 games.

    Now the name of the game is FUN. We never had any complaints until last year we let a new guy in. He...is...amazing! He kills everyone and won the last 6 years titles.

    Now, I am the commissioner, and I have 12 titles, but all the guys say that they KNOW (and have) beaten me and we always have close games, but this new guy makes them feel like children and helpless.

    We are considering a handicap for when 2014 comes out. Some of the league says he should take a HORRIBLE team (60's) and that I should take something in the 70's, bulk of the league will take 80's and the 2 worst guys will get 90's.

    AND THERE ARE ALSO other guys in our league who think it's childish and that since he is the best he is the rightful champion and they wanna PLAY on a fair scale to beat him.

    So as commissioner, I do want the league to be fun...and I can understand the few guys who say all fun is removed when you KNOW you can't win. And I also understand the argument from the prideful guys.

    What does everyone recommend our league do to solve this disparity in talent?
    Last edited by notrekane; 05-13-2013, 03:43 PM.
  • sportscholar305
    Banned
    • May 2013
    • 22

    #2
    Re: My League Needs Help!!! (advice)

    INVITE ME??

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    • BA2929
      The Designated Hitter
      • Jul 2008
      • 3342

      #3
      Re: My League Needs Help!!! (advice)

      Ask the best player what he thinks would be the most fair. You run the risk of taking all the fun out of it from him and him quitting the league if you handicap the league too much. But then I guess your problem would be solved, wouldn't it?
      "Baseball is the coolest sport because, at any moment, the catcher can stop the game and go tell the pitcher a secret" - Rob Fee

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      • Mr.BestKeptSecret65
        Banned
        • May 2013
        • 4

        #4
        Re: My League Needs Help!!! (advice)

        I would tell the entire league that after this season everyone will be seeded. But dont tell them why, so then when they get seeded then thats when you tell them that the worst guys will get good teams in ncaa 14 and the best players will get worse teams, a making it more fun for guys who are good because then it gives them a challenge. Or you could invite me into the league lol

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        • Bama man 42
          Rookie
          • Mar 2013
          • 64

          #5
          Re: My League Needs Help!!! (advice)

          PS3 or Xbox ?

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          • jello1717
            All Star
            • Feb 2006
            • 5720

            #6
            Re: My League Needs Help!!! (advice)

            In my OD we've seeded the guys based on our performance throughout the previous release and we have prestige caps on these seeds. As an example, this year what we did was this for our 2 conference OD:
            6*: 2 worst guys from NCAA '12
            5*: next 3 guys
            4*: middle 4 guys
            3*: best 3 guys

            The good players shouldn't have a problem with taking the lower prestige schools if they are actually good. It'll take them a little while to get going, but they should be fine. In '12 I ended up with 3* Arizona State and I still won a couple of national titles and the only others that won as many were the guys who started with Georgia and Wisconsin. This year I took 3* SMU (in the Big XII) and I still have the most titles (3) in our 10+ years.
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            College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
            College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
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            • Buckeyed
              Rookie
              • Feb 2012
              • 433

              #7
              Re: My League Needs Help!!! (advice)

              For me it is hard to answer this question. If the guy plays sim style then you all need to step it up. If he runs cheese plays and abuses the AI programming then you might need to cut your losses.

              We have a guy with Miami that has housed everyone he has played. Then we met in the NC. He resorted to cheese but I figured it out and beat him 49-42. There was nothing better than beating the once unbeatable.

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              • IlluminatusUIUC
                MVP
                • Jan 2010
                • 2679

                #8
                Re: My League Needs Help!!! (advice)

                If this guy is utter rolfstomping the rest of the league, maybe he can negotiate a point spread with the other players? Give the noob two free TDs to open the game and then start from there, for example. It's not the most realistic thing but if it keeps everyone engaged then it's a good thing IMO
                Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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                • notrekane
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 15

                  #9
                  Re: My League Needs Help!!! (advice)

                  Thanks for all the advice guys, much appreciated.

                  I polled EVERY guy in the league SEPARATELY and RANDOMLY and didn't tell them why...I had them rate ALL the other guys in the league on a scale of 1 - 10 with regards to HOW LIKELY THEY FEEL THEY WILL WIN the game when they play that guy: a 10 means you KNOW you will lose...and a 1 means you KNOW you will win.

                  The AWESOME guy who I mentioned got an average of 9.75...and the WORST guy in our league (never won a title - ever - but ironically in our 2012 dynasty, when I was Alabama and won 6 consecutive titles and ONLY ever lost 1 single game...HE was the guy who beat me hahah by a 55 yard FG) got an average of 2.25.

                  So I devised a bell curve...The WORST guy gets the BEST team in the game OR first pick, whicever he prefers...The BEST guy, will take the WORST team on the game...and then everyone else is spaced accordingly...

                  I think I had like an average of 6.8...which equated to roughly a 77 overall team.

                  The next guy had an average of 5.3 which is an 84/85 overall team...

                  ...and so on and so forth....

                  What do you guys think of that?

                  PS: Final Teams look like this:

                  WORST 99
                  2nd Worst 93
                  3rd Worst 89
                  Middle of Pack 86
                  3rd Best 85
                  2nd Best 77.1
                  BEST 60

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                  • canesfins
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 2412

                    #10
                    Re: My League Needs Help!!! (advice)

                    Does he play fair? If so you guys just need to keep playing and get better.

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                    • ClemTiger
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 156

                      #11
                      Re: My League Needs Help!!! (advice)

                      Weak. If he's playing sim style, you can't punish him for being good. That's just like telling Alabama they can't win any more BCS titles.

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                      • notrekane
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 15

                        #12
                        Re: My League Needs Help!!! (advice)

                        Well offensively, I think he's about 85-90% sim...He has a few "out" plays where it's very tough to stop cause he has so many outs...Defensively, he MUST have some cheap plays because he gets into the backfield after your QB takes about 2 steps back...He had like 30-40 more sacks then the SECOND highest team...so not sure you can call that "sim" style.

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                        • jello1717
                          All Star
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 5720

                          #13
                          Re: My League Needs Help!!! (advice)

                          Originally posted by notrekane
                          He had like 30-40 more sacks then the SECOND highest team...so not sure you can call that "sim" style.
                          Those numbers are absolutely not sim. In '13 there are some pretty easy nano blitzes to set up and he's obviously abusing those.
                          Favorite Teams:
                          College #1: Michigan Wolverines
                          College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
                          College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
                          NHL: Detroit Redwings

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                          • Soonerfan14
                            NiNja
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 0

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jello1717
                            Those numbers are absolutely not sim. In '13 there are some pretty easy nano blitzes to set up and he's obviously abusing those.
                            Yup that's what it sounds like...
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                            • IlluminatusUIUC
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 2679

                              #15
                              Re: My League Needs Help!!! (advice)

                              IMO the ultimate goal of the league is to have fun. If the other players aren't having fun because this guy is running them, then he has to go or be handicapped. If the other players want to keep him around to try to knock off the champ, then he should stay.

                              But I've seen plenty of leagues completely collapse over one user, so if this is a group that you are comfortable with then get their opinion.
                              Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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