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  • Guru03
    Rookie
    • Feb 2012
    • 432

    #1

    I'm a cheeser but I want to become sim. Can you give me tips/advice?

    Mods, please move if it needs to go to another thread.

    I'm a cheeser and I want to become sim. In Madden, I play on pro mode and I play on freshman in NCAA. I pass 80-90 % of the time, and I'm not a very good player.

    Any tips or advice out there on how to become a sim player?
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  • Kingd803
    Banned
    • Feb 2013
    • 397

    #2
    Re: I'm a cheeser but I want to become sim. Can you give me tips/advice?

    Sorry to not answer your question but I have a question of my own. How did you pick your favorite teams? Serious question. Did you live in or around all those teams? Or what?

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    • darkxsacrificex
      Rookie
      • Jun 2012
      • 179

      #3
      Re: I'm a cheeser but I want to become sim. Can you give me tips/advice?

      best advise learn to take a loss

      mix play calling and for money plays use them few times a game but dont relay on them to get ur first down everytime u in third and long etc
      just learn the playbook in and out matter if its 3rd and 15 or 2nd and 2 just
      try use ur whole playbook

      learn who going be open before u hike it this aspect
      isnt for sim or freestyle but helps out alot and learn how to go through ur reads

      same goes for rb try read the oline and dline before u hike the ball and learn
      where the wholes be before u hike it and run with it as a rb

      other thing set ur own rules but just try say this to urself
      would the NFL go for it it here or would they go for 2 points here
      playing free style to sim will take time u get set limits for urself and like i said
      matter what happens in the game u will accept the loss or win

      so punt on forth down etc

      i dont know how u play but these simple steps and each person that say sim there different style of sim

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      • movethechains11
        Pro
        • Mar 2012
        • 847

        #4
        Re: I'm a cheeser but I want to become sim. Can you give me tips/advice?

        Originally posted by Kingd803
        Sorry to not answer your question but I have a question of my own. How did you pick your favorite teams? Serious question. Did you live in or around all those teams? Or what?
        Bandwagon at its best haha

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        • FlyEaglesFly3
          Banned
          • Sep 2010
          • 554

          #5
          Re: I'm a cheeser but I want to become sim. Can you give me tips/advice?

          Watch sports.
          Do what they do.

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          • speedy9313
            Banned
            • May 2013
            • 5

            #6
            Re: I'm a cheeser but I want to become sim. Can you give me tips/advice?

            lol the first step is admitting you have a problem

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            • capt.krappy
              Banned
              • Mar 2011
              • 15

              #7
              Re: I'm a cheeser but I want to become sim. Can you give me tips/advice?

              Wow,,, I like this question. Mainly because it's so rare. "Sim" is about everything the first guy mentioned and "attitude". Learn concepts and if you pass alot... learn how those concepts beat the coverages. Most "non-sim" play revolves around people using a play because it "works" whether they know the why of it or not. When you beat people because you out "thought" them (in regards to those concepts) rather than relying on a play that abuses the AI, your well on your way to playing a "sim" game. You'll also understand why so many people are frustrated with various aspects of this year's game. Good luck



              Originally posted by Guru03
              Mods, please move if it needs to go to another thread.

              I'm a cheeser and I want to become sim. In Madden, I play on pro mode and I play on freshman in NCAA. I pass 80-90 % of the time, and I'm not a very good player.

              Any tips or advice out there on how to become a sim player?

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              • FlyEaglesFly3
                Banned
                • Sep 2010
                • 554

                #8
                Re: I'm a cheeser but I want to become sim. Can you give me tips/advice?

                The problem with the question, is that no matter what we SAY, it wont help him.

                The art of Sim football isn't a study, it's not a scheme, or a thing that we TRY to do.

                Being a Sim player comes from the straight love and knowledge of the sport. Going 19-0 on easy, winning every award isn't what the sport is about. It's about a challenge, a balance, and an understanding of that sport. When I'm playing madden of course my goal is to win, but I want to win in a way that suits my team; Using players that I've seen in OTAs or pre-season favorites and utilizing them the way that fits their strengths.

                Being sim isn't about HOW we play, it's about why we play. We play for realism not for stats. We play to feel proud when we have a 15 play drive and punch it in before halftime. Not score 85 points a game.

                We don't see it as a style or a thought process. It's just what is real and makes sense. When you know the real life sport, transferring it onto the games, is a thoughtless act.

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                • d11king
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2716

                  #9
                  Re: I'm a cheeser but I want to become sim. Can you give me tips/advice?

                  Originally posted by FlyEaglesFly3
                  Watch sports.
                  Do what they do.

                  Couldn't have said it any better than this. Don't be sim, nowadays it seems like the term 'sim' has lost it's meaning because its thrown around so loosely and EVERYBODY thinks their sim. The only thing you need to learn in order to be sim, is play football. Don't play Madden, don't worry about anything else, other than playing real football. So to second Eagles, watch football, then when you pop in Madden, play football, then you'll be we'll on your way.

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                  • FlyEaglesFly3
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 554

                    #10
                    Re: I'm a cheeser but I want to become sim. Can you give me tips/advice?

                    You'll be a cheeser until you love the sports for what they are, not metrics that you see on your player card.

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                    • oneamongthefence
                      Nothing to see here folks
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5683

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FlyEaglesFly3
                      You'll be a cheeser until you love the sports for what they are, not metrics that you see on your player card.
                      I wouldn't call him a cheeser. Just an inexperienced player. Playing on pro or freshman is gonna be easy. He could run it 100% of the time and be successful. I would bump up the difficulty. The next question would be how much football knowledge do you have? Someone new to the sport wouldn't understand the nuances of it and whist works against what defense and vice versa.

                      Most inexperienced players I've met pass pretty much all the time.

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                      • Trick13
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 780

                        #12
                        Re: I'm a cheeser but I want to become sim. Can you give me tips/advice?

                        Originally posted by Guru03
                        Mods, please move if it needs to go to another thread.

                        I'm a cheeser and I want to become sim. In Madden, I play on pro mode and I play on freshman in NCAA. I pass 80-90 % of the time, and I'm not a very good player.

                        Any tips or advice out there on how to become a sim player?
                        Find posts by LBzrule, look for the links he gives often to real world strategy breakdowns and read them over and over. Watch NFL games and look for patterns and the strategies that you have been reading about, then up your difficulty level one step at time and try to recreate within Madden's horrible playbooks the things you see and read about.

                        Don't concentrate at first on individual play calls or whole schemes like West Coast, find specific concepts and build your knowledge one concept at a time, then as you should be continuing to read more and more you will begin to recognize concepts as you see them and you can begin to replicate more real world responses to other people's strategy.

                        I would say, as it works for me, read and then read some more and then read some more. Then focus on one thing you read that you want to translate to Madden and go hit the practice mode. Then either read some new stuff or re-read stuff and add a new concept...

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                        • CatalystNX
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 48

                          #13
                          Re: I'm a cheeser but I want to become sim. Can you give me tips/advice?

                          It depends on what team you're playing with and understanding how that team really plays. If you're playing as a run-first team like the Bucs don't throw 80-90% of the game; run it at least 55-60%. If you're playing as the Packers, throwing 75% of the time isn't really all that unrealistic.

                          Also, you have to understand the limitations of the game itself. Often times I have a chance to score that I know would never have happened in real life and I have to pass on it. Sometimes these happen due to glitches, but sometimes it's just because the A.I. just isn't very good and makes a dumb decision that a real NFL player would never make.

                          Also, personally I play on very slow speed; it just seems more realistic to me. But you also have to play slower yourself. This can mean running less - or none at all - hurry up, taking more time between plays to choose your play, or not snapping the ball the moment you're able to. Take time to call audibles, look over the defense, maybe do a fake snap, etc.

                          Tweak your sliders so that you're not always blowing teams out. If you're playing on a difficulty that's too easy none of the rest of this will matter. Play game after game and take note of what seems out of sync with what you'd be likely to see in a real game. If the CPU is getting 1.5 YPC on the ground, increase the CPU run blocking. If you're getting 10 sacks a game, increase the CPU pass blocking and/or decrease your own pass rushing slider. If you're completing 90% of your passes, decrease your QB accuracy and/or the CPU's awareness on pass D, etc.

                          Field goals tend to be way too easy in this game. It's generally a smart idea to bump the sliders for both power and accuracy down some regardless of skill level. Kickoffs, too.

                          If you're using a team that has backups who play a significant number of snaps (Panthers with Williams/Stewart at RB, Seahawks with their pass rushers) use your substitution options to put those players in certain packages so that they come into the game when they should.

                          Just some random tips...
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                          • raiderphantom
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 1537

                            #14
                            Re: I'm a cheeser but I want to become sim. Can you give me tips/advice?

                            Knowledge of the game is key. If Mark Sanchez is your QB you should have a very hard time throwing the ball. It's about realism and its a process. It can take years and years to gain the proper knowledge. I wanna know WHY you want to be sim. Because people call you a cheeser? Sim isn't just playing legit, it's a different mindset. There are rules and limitation that aren't always black and white. Sports aren't scripted. Anything can happen. But there are boundaries that when you cross them, you have left the sim world.
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                            • FlyEaglesFly3
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 554

                              #15
                              Re: I'm a cheeser but I want to become sim. Can you give me tips/advice?

                              He's not a cheeser, I would agree with that. He called himself a cheeser.

                              It just goes back to my first, simple post.

                              Watch sports
                              Do what they do.

                              Expanding on that:
                              Is the NFL easy?
                              Do teams pass 80-90 percent?
                              Do they punt/kick on most 4th downs?
                              Do they run the same play over and over?
                              Do teams win every single game?

                              A Few things you'll have to do:
                              - Turn up the difficulty
                              - Watch sports more (learn coverages, blocking, ball carrier vision, how to pick holes on O and D, know how to confuse the QB, understand strengths as a team, and weaknesses, understand why running is important, learn how to take angles, how to read defenses, learn who players are, etc.)
                              - Don't play just to win, play for a challenge.
                              - Switch your teams up so you can develope your game.
                              - Find favorite teams that are you favorite for a real reason, not because they win.
                              - Get someones PSN ID or Gamertag and lab with them and talk to them over the mic.
                              - if you 3 years old to 12 you'll probably have to wait a few years before you fully comprehend what the NFL and sports are all about.

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