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codyj123_321 06-13-2013 12:14 PM

is '14 the year defensive players can win heisman?
 
Its no secret that Ncaa games favor offensive players for the Heisman. Example I had a LB get 70 tackles and 32 sacks in a season and never even got on the Heisman watch. I knpw those numbers are very ridiculous and to never get a heisman chance is crazy.

BleedGreen710 06-13-2013 12:18 PM

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While your example is a little head scratching as to why he wasn't even considered for the Heisman,

Its no secret that offensive players are favored over defensive players in real life too..

JDakathebest 06-13-2013 12:21 PM

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It would be a nice touch to have defensive players be in the running I remember in NCAA 12 one year in my dynasty a full back with 400 yards rushing came in 3rd behind RG3 and one of the players on my team so hopefully it is possible

stratospaly 06-13-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedGreen710 (Post 2045116823)
While your example is a little head scratching as to why he wasn't even considered for the Heisman,

Its no secret that offensive players are favored over defensive players in real life too..

Only one defensive player has ever won the Heisman, Charles Woodson who was a DB. Of all the great LBs over the years, none has won it.

That being said one year (I think '09) I created a LB and had something like 190 tak, 90 sack, 18 INT, and 14 defensive TDs. I did not play that player on the offensive side of the ball (the easy way to get on the heisman rankings quickly) and won the award. The next year I did even better and was passed over by a HB who had only 1,500 yards rushing and 14 TDs.

War34Eagle 06-13-2013 12:25 PM

Had a guy who was listed as a CB but played a lot WR for me too. Got him as a 4 star athlete at MTSU so he was 6'3" 215. He had 9 picks his best defensive season and somewhere around 15 TDs and 900 yards or so receiving. He was my team that year, and his whole career actually. Patrick Cotton, the biggest fastest white guy in college football (97 speed, 94 ACC)

War34Eagle 06-13-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stratospaly (Post 2045116849)
Only one defensive player has ever won the Heisman, Charles Woodson who was a DB. Of all the great LBs over the years, none has won it.

That being said one year (I think '09) I created a LB and had something like 190 tak, 90 sack, 18 INT, and 14 defensive TDs. I did not play that player on the offensive side of the ball (the easy way to get on the heisman rankings quickly) and won the award. The next year I did even better and was passed over by a HB who had only 1,500 yards rushing and 14 TDs.

And Woodson also played some WR too, no?

420 others 06-13-2013 12:39 PM

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You'll have to wait till 17' because Clowney will win it this year, and EA will add in 3 years later lol

jello1717 06-13-2013 01:14 PM

Re: is '14 the year defensive players can win heisman?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by codyj123_321 (Post 2045116806)
Its no secret that Ncaa games favor offensive players for the Heisman.

It's no secret that real life favors offensive players for the Heisman.

Only 1 defensive guy has ever won it and he had to play both ways and return punts to get it.

Xero Theory 42 06-13-2013 02:14 PM

Re: is '14 the year defensive players can win heisman?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stratospaly (Post 2045116849)
Only one defensive player has ever won the Heisman, Charles Woodson who was a DB. Of all the great LBs over the years, none has won it.

That being said one year (I think '09) I created a LB and had something like 190 tak, 90 sack, 18 INT, and 14 defensive TDs. I did not play that player on the offensive side of the ball (the easy way to get on the heisman rankings quickly) and won the award. The next year I did even better and was passed over by a HB who had only 1,500 yards rushing and 14 TDs.


How do you even get those numbers for a defensive player? those are extremely mind boggling

stratospaly 06-13-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero Theory 42 (Post 2045117241)
How do you even get those numbers for a defensive player? those are extremely mind boggling

Low settings for one, I was just trying to win the award with a defensive player. Blitzing out of context (the play did not call for it) and then rushing 3-4 (enough to get pressure) and covering short routes with my LB for the picks. He also had many fumble recoveries but those are more of a fluke and less strategy so I don't really count them.

On Freshman you could slice through the line like butter and hit a HB or QB in the backfield on a PA or toss play.

Senio25 06-13-2013 02:44 PM

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In an OD on Ncaa 13 I had a MLB wit 135 tkls, 41 sacks, 4 int's, 13 ff, and 9 td's 2nd place for the heisman and he dropped to 4th ONLY because I had that 1 loss in every season that kept me from getting to the conf. title gm. My OLB finished 5th. Still pissed my QB dropped. Over 3500 passing wit 47 td's 1123 rushing wit 22 td's smh. This happened at least 4 straight seasons.

BigGamecock 06-13-2013 02:47 PM

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Clowney comin'

nk619ny 06-21-2016 04:31 AM

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I won the award with a DE, posting 108 Tackles, 89 TFL, 6 ATK, 63 Sacks, 3 FF, 1 INT, 1 TD. Altogether an achievable statline for R2G, playing All-American. It also helped that after my sophomore season I started with preseason Junior Heisman consideration, so I just put up enough stats not to fall, and moved up when the QBs had bad weeks.

Culture Rot 06-23-2016 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by War34Eagle (Post 2045116855)
Had a guy who was listed as a CB but played a lot WR for me too. Got him as a 4 star athlete at MTSU so he was 6'3" 215. He had 9 picks his best defensive season and somewhere around 15 TDs and 900 yards or so receiving. He was my team that year, and his whole career actually. Patrick Cotton, the biggest fastest white guy in college football (97 speed, 94 ACC)

Why is his race relevant?

BallinVol 06-25-2016 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by xlatinoheatx (Post 2048257611)
Why is his race relevant?

I think he was simply stating the guy was white. Don't be that person who turns it into a race war. There's enough of that in the world today. Let's stay on topic perhaps ...

Deegeezy 06-29-2016 05:06 PM

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I had a DB break the NCAA record for INTs and pick sixes, and even added some return yardage, and he never sniffed the Heisman list.

I thought about playing him on offense just to get him a handful of catches a la Charles Woodson, to see if that helps him, but never got around to it. Maybe next season.

Dudeofearth 07-04-2016 05:02 PM

Re: is '14 the year defensive players can win heisman?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by codyj123_321 (Post 2045116806)
Its no secret that Ncaa games favor offensive players for the Heisman. Example I had a LB get 70 tackles and 32 sacks in a season and never even got on the Heisman watch. I knpw those numbers are very ridiculous and to never get a heisman chance is crazy.

Nope it didn't turn out to be.

nk619ny 07-13-2016 12:35 AM

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Again, I feel like it might be impossible without being in the preseason consideration (or at least the ~10 the game has in "consideration", even if only 5 are visible). The question of what it takes to qualify for preseason consideration is another one, beyond me.

allhailben7 08-04-2016 02:37 PM

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I did it as a DB for Oregon in RTG. Turned it up to AA and offenses kept challenging me. Started from High School and didn't cheat the ratings. Had 18 INTs my junior year to get on the list, then I balled out for 97 tackles, 26 TFL, 4 sacks, 27 INTs and 14 defensive TDs. On punt returns, I would sprint behind our returner and he would leave it for me, so I had 715 yards on 47 returns for 1 TD there, too. In my sophomore through senior years, I had 23 INTs, 18 INTs and 27 INTs. With XP, I became 99 in everything except my 94 tackling. Kept CPU settings at all 50s and only turned tackling to 65 and INT to 55, then RB ability to 65 for returns.


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