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  • DucksForever
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    • Dec 2012
    • 567

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    NCAA 14 Ratings Question

    So I saw the top 10 player ratings for each team and I was looking at their BTK ratings. I wanted to know what the rating does. I know that elusiveness and trucking are what drive broken tackles (trucking for power backs and elusiveness for seed) but what exactly does the BTK rating do?

    The Black Mamba has a 87 BTK rating. This would make sense, but then I see Taylor Martinez who has a 77 BTK rating. Does it even matter in breaking tackles any way?

    (Also, just to clarify, I understand that BTK stands for 'Broken Tackle')
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  • Gotmadskillzson
    Live your life
    • Apr 2008
    • 23442

    #2
    Re: NCAA 14 Ratings Question

    Break tackle, elusiveness and trucking all do the same thing, break tackles. In reality break tackle rating was replaced years ago, NCAA team for some reason still holds on to it. Don't matter which one of the 3 is high, a high number in either category will give you the same result, broken tackle.

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    • DucksForever
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      • Dec 2012
      • 567

      #3
      Re: NCAA 14 Ratings Question

      Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
      Break tackle, elusiveness and trucking all do the same thing, break tackles. In reality break tackle rating was replaced years ago, NCAA team for some reason still holds on to it. Don't matter which one of the 3 is high, a high number in either category will give you the same result, broken tackle.
      Cool, thank you. I'm a big fan of your ratings work by the way. I re-edited my whole NCAA 12 roster last year by hand following your discoveries. Best gameplay I ever had by far. Best CPU vs. CPU as well.
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      • The_Wise_One
        Why Not Us?
        • Jan 2011
        • 2633

        #4
        Re: NCAA 14 Ratings Question

        Hopefully they get rid of the useless ratings next gen. Just a waste of disc space.
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        • BleedGreen710
          Eagles Fan
          • Oct 2012
          • 4025

          #5
          Re: NCAA 14 Ratings Question

          I always figured Trucking was how good the player was at trucking, Elusiveness was how good the player was at eluding defenders with jukes/spins etc, and break tackle was something that was just the players ability at breaking tackles in general, the higher the greater the chance. I highly doubt its 'useless' like some of you are saying. Its like the catching rating in relation to Catch in Traffic or Spectacular Catch. A higher catching rating means a higher chance of making catches in general and would help the player with catching in traffic or spectacular catch as well, similar to how break tackle can help a player truck or elude a defender.

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          • DucksForever
            Pro
            • Dec 2012
            • 567

            #6
            Re: NCAA 14 Ratings Question

            Originally posted by The_Wise_One
            Hopefully they get rid of the useless ratings next gen. Just a waste of disc space.
            Agreed. To make space for some more passing ratings hopefully. Also they need to make their pointless ratings work...I'm looking at you route running...
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            • BleedGreen710
              Eagles Fan
              • Oct 2012
              • 4025

              #7
              Re: NCAA 14 Ratings Question

              Originally posted by DucksForever
              Agreed. To make space for some more passing ratings hopefully. Also they need to make their pointless ratings work...I'm looking at you route running...
              Uhh.. I find it easy to tell the difference between good route runners and bad route runners on NCAA 13, and find it to be a very very useful rating for receivers. Most of my best WRs were the slow, great hands, great route running types. They cut faster on their routes and get open better. I think calling it useless is quite a stretch..

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              • DucksForever
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                • Dec 2012
                • 567

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                Re: NCAA 14 Ratings Question

                Originally posted by BleedGreen710
                Uhh.. I find it easy to tell the difference between good route runners and bad route runners on NCAA 13, and find it to be a very very useful rating for receivers. Most of my best WRs were the slow, great hands, great route running types. They cut faster on their routes and get open better. I think calling it useless is quite a stretch..
                A stretch maybe, but it doesn't do much. I've labbed 0 route runners against 99 route runners with identical ratings except for the route running and the separation is hardly visible. However, I'm not saying that other users might have found ways to make it useful; I just can't seem to get any performance out of the rating.
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                • The_Wise_One
                  Why Not Us?
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2633

                  #9
                  Re: NCAA 14 Ratings Question

                  @Bleedgreen
                  I know what you're getting at and I think that if they simplified the ratings and made them more dynamic (hate using that word) then we would truly be able to 'feel' the difference between a power back and speed back for example.
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                  • Buckeyeboss19
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2018
                    • 6

                    #10
                    Re: NCAA 14 Ratings Question

                    Finding this thread years down the road but I figured I should post what I have found in case somebody else like me stumbles on this thread...

                    While doing testing I found out (confirmed some things I had heard) that the ratings are representative of animations. For example Catching rating is a catch probability rating. However, CIT and SPC are animation based. So a 99 catch WR with 0 SPC or CIT does not have access to certain catch animations but still catches the ball almost every time. Going up for a 1 handed catch or holding onto the ball while a DB tries to strip it would be animations that are linked to SPC and CIT. In summary CTH is the easily the most important rating for catching.

                    BTK is sim based and has little to no effect on game play. Elusiveness and Trucking are the in game stats for breaking tackles. (Tested this with 0 Break Tackle and 99 ELU/TRK) Doesn't look like there is any advantage to TRK vs ELU it just changes the animation.

                    I have found in Dynasty mode rosters that there are hidden PBF/PBS and RBF/RBS ratings that can be viewed using DB editor. This leads me to believe that similar to BTK that PB and RB are sim stats and that these hidden stats are the in game ratings that control the animation reaction between power move and finesse move respectively. So a 99 Finesse move would be evenly matched against 99 PBF. So, PBS/RBS work against PMV and PBF/RBF work against FMV.

                    Everything from this point on is untested and is simply my educated opinion based on the info I have learned and somethings I have read.

                    I would imagine that Impact Block works against the Block Shed rating in the open field. I would imagine BSH has other functions but that open field block shedding is the main one and the animation is paired with IBL

                    I haven't tested this but it would make sense then that Press and Release ratings work similarly to the O-line/D-line interaction and it only affects the initial animation and then MCV/ZCV ratings take over.

                    Again I haven't tested this but I would go on to hypothesize that RTE is matched up against MCV and ZCV.

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