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  • luda06
    Pro
    • Sep 2008
    • 572

    #1

    Could NBA 2K Exist as a F2P Franchise?

    The idea hit me when I saw previews for the PS4's Blacklight: Retribution and Warframe titles. They look like top shelf games, yet they're free to play. The producer of Blacklight clearly took a shot at annualized FPS games, stating that consumers would have to purchase a new game for new maps, gameplay features, and weapons, while his team can patch it into the game they released on day one.

    I only play 2 game modes; online (with my buddies) and practice. This has been the trend for me since NBA 2K1 on the Dreamcast via SegaNet.

    Why can't 2K indefinitely patch in roster updates, playbook changes, and other aesthetic features? Or could we pay for the game modes that we want? I believe Sony sells Killzone's multiplayer component independently on the marketplace.

    I'm not saying that Take Two, or 2K sports should hop on the suggestion. I'm not entirely familiar with F2P games or how the business model works for something like this. Couldn't this work for NBA 2K? I think it would be a huge win for gamers imo. Just having more choices never hurts.
  • Sundown
    MVP
    • Oct 2010
    • 3269

    #2
    F2P could turn into pay-to-win with VC, extrapolated onto other modes beyond my player and my team, like association or even quick games.

    Besides, they're charging us for VC on top of the price of a full game so not sure why they'd forgo a guaranteed revenue stream along with income from VC.

    It would be nice to even have some sort of subscription to get accurate, up to the minute roster, art, and stat updates. We shouldn't have to pay for that but I wouldn't mind doing so personally.

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    • luda06
      Pro
      • Sep 2008
      • 572

      #3
      Re: Could NBA 2K Exist as a F2P Franchise?

      Originally posted by Sundown
      F2P could turn into pay-to-win with VC, extrapolated onto other modes beyond my player and my team, like association or even quick games.

      Besides, they're charging us for VC on top of the price of a full game so not sure why they'd forgo a guaranteed revenue stream along with income from VC.

      It would be nice to even have some sort of subscription to get accurate, up to the minute roster, art, and stat updates. We shouldn't have to pay for that but I wouldn't mind doing so personally.
      I agree. EA's Ultimate Team and 2K's rendition of it really blurs the line between free to play and pay to win.

      I do like the idea of gamers being allowed to have the initial roster for free whilst legend teams and the most up-to-date roster would require some sort of payment. Or maybe a yearly subscription could unlock everything similar to season DLC passes for other retail games such as Borderlands 2.

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      • Sundown
        MVP
        • Oct 2010
        • 3269

        #4
        Originally posted by luda06
        I agree. EA's Ultimate Team and 2K's rendition of it really blurs the line between free to play and pay to win.

        I do like the idea of gamers being allowed to have the initial roster for free whilst legend teams and the most up-to-date roster would require some sort of payment. Or maybe a yearly subscription could unlock everything similar to season DLC passes for other retail games such as Borderlands 2.
        I know almost no one would be happy with this since we expect our sports games to be 60 bucks and last us season long but I wouldn't mind paying more, maybe twice as much, for the game, all modes, and a "league pass" given how much I play the game.

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        • luda06
          Pro
          • Sep 2008
          • 572

          #5
          Re: Could NBA 2K Exist as a F2P Franchise?

          Originally posted by Sundown
          I know almost no one would be happy with this since we expect our sports games to be 60 bucks and last us season long but I wouldn't mind paying more, maybe twice as much, for the game, all modes, and a "league pass" given how much I play the game.
          I don't know. If NBA 2K popped up this fall for "free", with all the game modes and players available, I don't see too many people being upset about that.

          I think there would be a residual income with a F2P model could be better than a game that sells directly for a fixed price.

          There's aesthetics in the game 2k could charge for:

          Throwbacks
          Shoes
          Legendary teams
          Overseas teams
          MyPlayer accessories

          Maybe 2k should attempt to expand the MyPlayer feature into something that's more so of a MMO in design. Sure the players' individual careers could be separate from one another, but just having a virtual hub where players can hang out and play pickup would be pretty amazing.

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          • HowDareI
            MVP
            • Jan 2012
            • 1900

            #6
            Re: Could NBA 2K Exist as a F2P Franchise?

            The thing is, 2K basically became this already.

            Ever since 2K10 added My Player and Crew I was hooked on them modes. But now you get 2K13 and they FINALLY made the online stable because I haven't seen a single hacker yet, and guess what?....People payed for their VC to upgrade their players.

            I honestly think this is the worst thing 2K implemented into the game, but that's just me.
            I don't wanna be Jordan, I don't wanna be Bird or Isiah, I don't wanna be any of those guys.
            I want to look in the mirror and say I did it my way.

            -Allen Iverson

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            • luda06
              Pro
              • Sep 2008
              • 572

              #7
              Re: Could NBA 2K Exist as a F2P Franchise?

              Originally posted by HowDareI
              The thing is, 2K basically became this already.

              Ever since 2K10 added My Player and Crew I was hooked on them modes. But now you get 2K13 and they FINALLY made the online stable because I haven't seen a single hacker yet, and guess what?....People payed for their VC to upgrade their players.

              I honestly think this is the worst thing 2K implemented into the game, but that's just me.
              You're looking at one aspect of the game. MyTeam has a lot of potential, but it's flawed with its current state. However I'm suggesting the entire game itself should be free versus paying retail and then more in this pay to win environment.

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              • IYoDa
                Rookie
                • Sep 2012
                • 440

                #8
                Originally posted by HowDareI
                The thing is, 2K basically became this already.

                Ever since 2K10 added My Player and Crew I was hooked on them modes. But now you get 2K13 and they FINALLY made the online stable because I haven't seen a single hacker yet, and guess what?....People payed for their VC to upgrade their players.

                I honestly think this is the worst thing 2K implemented into the game, but that's just me.
                First off it's "paid". Lol.
                And if you haven't seen a single you either don't play or are blind.
                There is stacks of 99ovr hackers.
                We live in a world with smart phones and stupid people

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                • KyotoCarl
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 3825

                  #9
                  Then we would never get core gameplay improvements. Two year after its really se it would feel stale when compared to new games coming out.

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                  What we know so far about NBA 2K14 - FAQ/QA:
                  http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2045267769

                  My thoughts on how replays should be handled:
                  http://www.operationsports.com/Kyoto...plays-replays/

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                  • britteep
                    Just started!
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 3

                    #10
                    Re: Could NBA 2K Exist as a F2P Franchise?

                    It would be nice to even have some sort of subscription to get accurate

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                    • KyotoCarl
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 3825

                      #11
                      Re: Could NBA 2K Exist as a F2P Franchise?

                      What's the problem with paying full price for a game each year though and get a good, evolved and fresh product each year?
                      What we know so far about NBA 2K14 - FAQ/QA:
                      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2045267769

                      My thoughts on how replays should be handled:
                      http://www.operationsports.com/Kyoto...plays-replays/

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                      • luda06
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 572

                        #12
                        Re: Could NBA 2K Exist as a F2P Franchise?

                        Originally posted by KyotoCarl
                        What's the problem with paying full price for a game each year though and get a good, evolved and fresh product each year?
                        The changes from year to year are marginal at this point. Each iteration is a glorified roster update with some gameplay balancing tweaks here and there.

                        Mind you, I only play online. I don't play Association, My Player, or the Blacktop modes against the CPU. I'm not getting the full $60 value of the game. I don't view it as such, but I pay it. I don't have any alternatives.

                        This is where a F2P model could have some relative success for consumers such as myself. Pay for what you want the most, and maybe the true value of the game will be illustrated by this.

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                        • IYoDa
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 440

                          #13
                          Originally posted by luda06
                          The changes from year to year are marginal at this point. Each iteration is a glorified roster update with some gameplay balancing tweaks here and there.

                          Mind you, I only play online. I don't play Association, My Player, or the Blacktop modes against the CPU. I'm not getting the full $60 value of the game. I don't view it as such, but I pay it. I don't have any alternatives.

                          This is where a F2P model could have some relative success for consumers such as myself. Pay for what you want the most, and maybe the true value of the game will be illustrated by this.
                          Yer coz MyTeam isn't new, all star weekend isn't new, pre game rituals isn't new, the dribble stick isn't new, player closet and blacktop isn't new.
                          Yer bro, it's the same as 2k12 hey........
                          We live in a world with smart phones and stupid people

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                          • luda06
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 572

                            #14
                            Re: Could NBA 2K Exist as a F2P Franchise?

                            Originally posted by IYoDa
                            Yer coz MyTeam isn't new, all star weekend isn't new, pre game rituals isn't new, the dribble stick isn't new, player closet and blacktop isn't new.
                            Yer bro, it's the same as 2k12 hey........
                            Is this post to supposed to change my opinion of the game?

                            I don't care for ASW, pre-game rituals, blacktop, or a personalized avatar for MyPlayer. This isn't to say they're bad or not worth mentioning. MyTeam is great addition, however. I believe the core 2K gamer experience is fragmented. There's gamers such as myself that prefer playing with friends, and then there's the traditional gamer who spends most of their time against the CPU.

                            I'm not sure if gamers such as myself are in the minority. I just wish there was an option available for us.

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                            • Melbournelad
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 1559

                              #15
                              Re: Could NBA 2K Exist as a F2P Franchise?

                              Originally posted by luda06
                              The changes from year to year are marginal at this point. Each iteration is a glorified roster update with some gameplay balancing tweaks here and there.

                              Mind you, I only play online. I don't play Association, My Player, or the Blacktop modes against the CPU. I'm not getting the full $60 value of the game. I don't view it as such, but I pay it. I don't have any alternatives.

                              This is where a F2P model could have some relative success for consumers such as myself. Pay for what you want the most, and maybe the true value of the game will be illustrated by this.
                              You don't play association...?

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