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  • billsmetalbooze
    Rookie
    • Aug 2009
    • 265

    #1

    physics question: does weight finally matter?

    hi, for those who have played the demo:

    does a 240-lb back run through and over a 175-lb corner?

    do heavy WRs do more damage and than the 190-lb guys?

    this, to me, is a huge issue. thanks in advance for replies.
  • jpdavis82
    All Star
    • Sep 2005
    • 8794

    #2
    Re: physics question: does weight finally matter?

    Originally posted by billsmetalbooze
    hi, for those who have played the demo:

    does a 240-lb back run through and over a 175-lb corner?

    do heavy WRs do more damage and than the 190-lb guys?

    this, to me, is a huge issue. thanks in advance for replies.
    I haven't played the demo much, but I will say that you finally don't have to rely on speed to have a running game. Marshawn Lynch was killing it yesterday, just bowling over shields, hayward, burnett, etc... It was overpowered honestly, but power backs definitely are more effective than in previous years. I'm not sure about heavy wr's yet. I'll test this later after work.

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    • Jet Sufferer
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 1347

      #3
      Re: physics question: does weight finally matter?

      Originally posted by billsmetalbooze
      hi, for those who have played the demo:

      does a 240-lb back run through and over a 175-lb corner?

      do heavy WRs do more damage and than the 190-lb guys?

      this, to me, is a huge issue. thanks in advance for replies.
      Total mixed bag, not really weight, physics related at all, because if it was you wouldn't have guys being pancaked by Aaron Rodgers etc. It's really random, sometimes it looks good, sometimes you shake your head.

      In short, if you're asking does the engine take each collision and calculate, angle, weight, power, physics properly, the answer is a resounding NO. Does it ruin the game, no, not at all. It's just not a very fleshed out or accurate weight/collision model.

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      • FreAk47
        Straight cash homie
        • Jan 2011
        • 247

        #4
        Re: physics question: does weight finally matter?

        Originally posted by Jet Sufferer
        Total mixed bag, not really weight, physics related at all, because if it was you wouldn't have guys being pancaked by Aaron Rodgers etc. It's really random, sometimes it looks good, sometimes you shake your head.

        In short, if you're asking does the engine take each collision and calculate, angle, weight, power, physics properly, the answer is a resounding NO. Does it ruin the game, no, not at all. It's just not a very fleshed out or accurate weight/collision model.
        Exactly my thoughts. It does almost seem like it's completely random...maybe they just assumed if the outcome was random it would be correct 50% of the time, and thats better than nothing?

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        • ghettogeeksta
          Banned
          • Sep 2011
          • 2632

          #5
          Re: physics question: does weight finally matter?

          Weight does not matter, have you seen the videos of Vick and McCoy trucking over defensive tackles. Also any back can be hit sticked even if they are squared up with the defender. So weight does NOT matter its all animation based decided like a game of rock, paper, scissors.

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          • billsmetalbooze
            Rookie
            • Aug 2009
            • 265

            #6
            Re: physics question: does weight finally matter?

            thanks for all the replies.

            am i crazy or did EA not say that weight would be a factor this year?

            if they did and what you all say is true, we've been hoodwinked yet again.

            this might be the year i quit my Madden addiction cold turkey.

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            • ggsimmonds
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jan 2009
              • 11235

              #7
              Re: physics question: does weight finally matter?

              It does not matter in NCAA; I can still hit stick the hell out of TEs and FBs with my 185 lb FS or CB.

              THe infinity engine is an upgrade, but it is not true real time physics. At its heart it is canned animations that can be freely interrupted by other players.

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              • jmurphy31
                MVP
                • Jun 2008
                • 2803

                #8
                Re: physics question: does weight finally matter?

                As others have said its a mixed bag and pretty random. I have seen CBs who are basically standing still just crush a back who was already running. Some of it looks good, like when your trying to tackle someone and you wrestle for a yard or two before you push him out of bounds.

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                • JaymeeAwesome
                  Dynasty Guru
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 4152

                  #9
                  Originally posted by billsmetalbooze
                  thanks for all the replies.

                  am i crazy or did EA not say that weight would be a factor this year?

                  if they did and what you all say is true, we've been hoodwinked yet again.

                  this might be the year i quit my Madden addiction cold turkey.
                  I believe that EA mentioned weight for next gen.
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                  • nosaints26
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 194

                    #10
                    Re: physics question: does weight finally matter?

                    Originally posted by billsmetalbooze
                    thanks for all the replies.

                    am i crazy or did EA not say that weight would be a factor this year?

                    if they did and what you all say is true, we've been hoodwinked yet again.

                    this might be the year i quit my Madden addiction cold turkey.
                    The devs definitely said this factor would be possible for MADDEN 13, but it definitely never was. I'm a physics nerd and I think that was the part about the physics engine that excited me the most. Doesn't look like the case for 25, but possibly for next gen.

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                    • SageInfinite
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 11896

                      #11
                      Re: physics question: does weight finally matter?

                      Definitely a mixed bag. Sometimes things play out realistically, other times it's ridiculous.
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