Is tackling overpowered?

[Smirkin Dirk]

Im new to Madden, and bit of a beginner with NFL, so I only notice the larger issues with the game. I know football diehards can spot flaws that I cant.

But to me, the overpowered tackling is the main thing. After seeing that Doug Baldwin TD today, the 1st thought that popped in was that couldnt happen in Madden. He would have been flattened by the first tackler. Once the CPU decides to tackle, that's it. Even if you manage to shake it, you're running in concrete and easy pickings for a secondary tackler.

The precision moves available lack any sort of speed or zip, especially in bang-bang situations.

Ive lowered the CPU and my tackling to 0 and see some more broke tackles (more so after catches rather than running) but not nearly enough. This has also had the effect of nerfing the CPU's FG kicking ability (I have no idea why these things are linked).

Is this just me sucking at the game, or do you find the CPU are too good at tackling also?

[spacedog]

Re: Is tackling overpowered?

I hear you, those kinds of plays where you break multiple tackles are rare, they happen (not with animations similar to what Baldwin did necessarily but they break tackles) though. But it mostly would happen with some players with really spectacular stat ratings for trucking and elusiveness from what I've seen, even then it doesn't happen much. But what I do notice is oftentimes the CPU has no problems busting through multiple tackles like Baldwin too often lol

[Millennium]

Re: Is tackling overpowered?

My belief on this is that people still haven't gotten used to the fact that you have to set up moves early, and use the R stick moves well before the defender gets there. All of the 'highlight' film material I have seen has been people that are not using sprint and start their move a few yards before contact.

[OhMrHanky]

Re: Is tackling overpowered?

Yeah, it's weird. It feels more like this on NG, IMO. I play with the falcons and Steven Jackson has 92 TRK and 95 stiff arm which are my favorite moves. I played 2 seasons with him before he retired. I feel like I broke maybe 5-10 tackles. That's lame. And, I occasionally got the stiff arm animation, but it wouldn't actually break the tackle, so for me, yes, tackling is overpowered in madden NG. In CG, it was almost too easy to break tackles, so I'm not sure what happened there.


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[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: Is tackling overpowered?

My belief on this is that people still haven't gotten used to the fact that you have to set up moves early, and use the R stick moves well before the defender gets there. All of the 'highlight' film material I have seen has been people that are not using sprint and start their move a few yards before contact.

Which is fine, but it doesnt allow quick second decisions.

As an example, I was running through a hole in the line. Once of the tackles got off his blocker just as I buzzed through, by the time it happened I was tackled.

The window to do a move is far too early

[AZBirds]

Re: Is tackling overpowered?

Tackling really is UNDERpowered. Tiny speed backs can throw LBs off them with one arm easily in this game.


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[OhMrHanky]

Re: Is tackling overpowered?

Tackling really is UNDERpowered. Tiny speed backs can throw LBs off them with one arm easily in this game.


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I saw that all the time in CG, but it feels totally opposite for NG. I never see broken tackles by me or the CPU.


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[LordHorc]

Re: Is tackling overpowered?

In NG, I have CBs with 30 tackling that are bringing down people like AP and Eddie Lacy 1 on 1. I think someone with 95+ trucking would almost always beat a CB like that. But not only that, they are getting trucked by the CB who also has about a 25 hitpower! Doesnt seem realistic. Makes ppl like rodgers-cromartie too OP

[howboutdat]

Re: Is tackling overpowered?

if your having issues with tackling , either you think its over powered , or under powered, there is a solution , its called adjust the slider. i know some want to think sliders dont matter, but they do if you test it enough ull find the sweet spot. some things just 1 or 2 number increase ends up being too much . so it takes some testing to find a good spot

[TheFlamingWeazel]

Re: Is tackling overpowered?

Has nothing to do with sliders LMAO..the game is arcadey, small line backers make RB's still fly backwards 2-3 yards just by lowering their shoulder....The entire game neds to be re-written. It's more like blitza then real NFl football.

[howboutdat]

Re: Is tackling overpowered?

actually it does have to do with sliders but thats ok think what u like. funny one person thinks its overpowered, one thinks its underpowered....... each person has their own idea of how it should play. but adjusting the sliders does make a dif.

[jmaj315]

Re: Is tackling overpowered?

In NG, I have CBs with 30 tackling that are bringing down people like AP and Eddie Lacy 1 on 1. I think someone with 95+ trucking would almost always beat a CB like that. But not only that, they are getting trucked by the CB who also has about a 25 hitpower! Doesnt seem realistic. Makes ppl like rodgers-cromartie too OP

The way you typed this makes it sound like AP should NEVER be tackled by a CB. Probably not what you meant, but if it is... thats preposterous!

Anybody can tackle anybody, but I will agree that the big hits with the 25 hit power shouldn't look the way they do.

[LordHorc]

Re: Is tackling overpowered?

The way you typed this makes it sound like AP should NEVER be tackled by a CB. Probably not what you meant, but if it is... thats preposterous!

Anybody can tackle anybody, but I will agree that the big hits with the 25 hit power shouldn't look the way they do.

Yup, i mean they should occasionally bring him down, but if theyre alone in open field going straight at each other, AP should win the majority of the time. But instead of plowing over the defender, or even being brought down by a tackle, AP is the one that gets wrecked - the CB is still standing after the vicious hit that a 25 hitpower guy shouldnt even be capable of. In my online CFM, my friend uses corners that are good against the pass, but suck at stopping the run irl, but in the game they might as well be a linebacker. In the game, if it's 2 real ppl playing and the RB trucks, and the defender hit sticks, the defender will wreck the RB 99% of the time. Thats bad programming.

[ManiacMatt1782]

Re: Is tackling overpowered?

The way you typed this makes it sound like AP should NEVER be tackled by a CB. Probably not what you meant, but if it is... thats preposterous!

Anybody can tackle anybody, but I will agree that the big hits with the 25 hit power shouldn't look the way they do.

I would say it should be very rare for AP or Lynch to be driven back by a small db.. The corners should be able to make 1 on 1 tackles, but small corners should also be driven back and they get the tackle by holding on for dear life or tripping the power back up.

[Bruce LeRoy]

Re: Is tackling overpowered?

Tackling is one of the biggest reasons I can't play this game. Too many predetermined canned animations, ratings matter minimally, tacking in Madden is like playing rock paper scissors and the same animations play over and over again. Next gen its even worst because the ball carrier gets slowed down by True Step while the defense does not. No type of momentum in this game, too many times ive busted through a hole going one direction only to be sucked into a predetermined tackle that defies the laws of physics. Nice to hear from someone green in Madden that had not been brainwashed into thinking this is as good as it gets.