Ways To Challenge Yourself in Dynasty

[Noble Evildoer]

I'm curious if anybody has any decent ways to effectively challenge oneself in dynasty. I mean, other than fiddling with difficulty and sliders.

For instance, my friend and I recently started using a few house rules for dynasty. If you're an OC you can run any offense you want and can set the recruiting plan, but have to let the CPU do the actual recruiting. If you're a head coach you can recruit whomever you like, but have to run whatever offense and defense your coordinators run.

So, any suggestions? I'm especially looking for recruiting restrictions since, due to being 20 years into the dynasty, our recruiting classes are always ranked #1 and #2. It's to the point where we end up cutting 5 and 4 star players.

Any other suggestions are also welcome.

[Clemsonpanther]

Re: Ways To Challenge Yourself in Dynasty

Dont oversign for one thing

[martywebb]

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Honestly, more strict recruiting rules (like Clemsonpanther suggested.) Also, if you want to dabble in it, Coach Mode really handcuffs you a bit. I've had some blowouts, I've received some blowouts, but the games that are down to the wire are so intense when you aren't controlling what's happening other than the play call itself.

[StoneCalf]

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My recruiting restrictions:

• Can only recruit and sign max of 5 players that are 4 star or higher
• Can only recruit 1 player nationally (all other recruits must be from a conference state, in my case SEC)
• Must cut any player recruited/assigned to your team by the CPU (for some bewildering reason, the CPU will add 1 to 3 players to my class, even though I've got recruiting assistance off.

Even with the above listed rules, I still can get a top ten class, so I may go to a max of 4 players 4 star or higher to increase challenge.

A couple of other things I do is only allow 1 redshirt per season and only allow 1 attempt per offseason to try to persuade a player to stay (when they declare or want to transfer)

[jello1717]

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#1 should always be to only sign up to 70 players and not cut anyone that you signed.

You should also cut all of the "phantom" recruits that the AI signs for you anyway (even with all recruiting assists turned off) like Stone Calf mentioned. The game usually tries to get you as close to 25 signings as it can, so I've seen as many as 10 extra guys signed for me before and with 6* Michigan, some of these guys are really, really good (but not usually).

I've found that by far the best way to limit recruiting classes is to limit your coaching skills. For starters I'm using the slowest progression rate so even though I'm in year 22 of my dynasty, I'm still only a level 31 coach (54 is max). If I were on normal progression I'm sure I would've maxed out at 54 a long time ago.
Then I've implemented these recruiting tree restrictions which work awesomely:

I can only put 2 points into the following skills:

• Royal Treatment
• Opener
• Closer
• Kitchen Sink (have to spend 3 points to get 20 point requirement. CANNOT SPEND MORE THAN 600 PER RECRUIT)
• Insta-commit

With these restrictions there are guys that I have to fight tooth and nail for as well as guys that I simply cannot sign, even as 6* Michigan. If I were allowed 3 points in royal treatment and kitchen sink, I could sign not only ANY recruit I wanted, but also EVERY recruit I wanted before the offseason (I know this from experience).

Another recruiting restriction is that I can't recruit any player that is 1* higher than my school's prestige unless I'm in their top 10 or they're from home state.

Finally, the other most important way to limit you recruiting is that when adding recruits during the season(not the preseason), I can only add someone that has me in his top 10 already. It WAAAAAAAAAAY too easy to find superstars midway through the season that have no one pursuing them. By requiring them to have me in their top 10, it really, really cuts down on the cheesy signings you can otherwise get.

Another rule I used to have was that no more than 20% of a class can be ATHs. This was because ATHs weren't recruited as much as other classes, but I've removed that restriction as I've later found that the CPU does a good job of going after ATHs after all.

[thedudescrew]

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As i agree with most of those house rules are very simple.
1. I can only add players who are interested to my board in the preseason.
2. I can only pursue his after scouting them fully.
3. After the preseason i can only have a max of 20 recruits on my board.
4. The most critical for me, no JUCO guys, unless i am starting out with a terrible team who needs the help now and there is no one else left that's any good. This one has been the hardest for me cause they are already 70 plus most of the time and are instant starters on the terrible teams.
Either way good luck on making it challenging. I have stopped playing games and started doing them just to do the recruiting.

[dso122783]

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How are you guys starting your dynasty? As HC/DC/ or OC? Also, what star teams?

[jello1717]

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How are you guys starting your dynasty? As HC/DC/ or OC? Also, what star teams?

I started as the OC at 1* ULL. I was there for 2 years and then I was the HC for Buffalo. After 1 year (I should've forced myself to stay at every school for at least 2 years) I went on to be HC for UConn. After 1 year I was the HC for ASU for 5 years. Then I got my dream job as HC of Michigan and I've been there ever since (2022-2034 so far).

[dso122783]

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I started as the OC at 1* ULL. I was there for 2 years and then I was the HC for Buffalo. After 1 year (I should've forced myself to stay at every school for at least 2 years) I went on to be HC for UConn. After 1 year I was the HC for ASU for 5 years. Then I got my dream job as HC of Michigan and I've been there ever since (2022-2034 so far).

I like the house rules you're using. When you play as OC, do you recruit? Do you use whatever style playbook you want? When you go to HC do you use the OC's playbook or do you still use your own?

[jello1717]

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I like the house rules you're using. When you play as OC, do you recruit? Do you use whatever style playbook you want? When you go to HC do you use the OC's playbook or do you still use your own?

I wasn't an OC for long but I didn't do any recruiting (which was rough as that's my favorite part of the game, but I figured that's more of a HC thing). That's also one of the main reasons why I jumped to a HC so soon (the other was because in my spreadsheet I only track my win/loss record as a HC so I wanted to start keeping track).

I always use my own PB.

[dso122783]

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I wasn't an OC for long but I didn't do any recruiting (which was rough as that's my favorite part of the game, but I figured that's more of a HC thing). That's also one of the main reasons why I jumped to a HC so soon (the other was because in my spreadsheet I only track my win/loss record as a HC so I wanted to start keeping track).

I always use my own PB.

So when you are an OC, you leave the recruiting board assistance ON, and take it off when you move to HC, correct?

[jello1717]

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So when you are an OC, you leave the recruiting board assistance ON, and take it off when you move to HC, correct?

Yep.
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[conception]

Re: Ways To Challenge Yourself in Dynasty

I decided as OC to only use the playbook for the school I was it. My initial goal was to switch schools often, but since I was actually recruiting my own players, I gave up switching schools so I could play with the guys I had recruited.

[soonermagic88]

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I may be totally overlooking this but, where is coach mode? I currently have a dynasty going where im the OC of Indiana in 2017, can i turn on coach mode somewhere in the existing dynasty? Or am i going to have to start a whole new dynasty?
Also, does anyone have a good slider set for coach mode?
I've been just watching CPU vs CPU games in my dynasty, but im tired of 1) the ridiculous run/pass inbalance and 2) the crazy high rate of called screen passes by the OC.

[jello1717]

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I may be totally overlooking this but, where is coach mode? I currently have a dynasty going where im the OC of Indiana in 2017, can i turn on coach mode somewhere in the existing dynasty? Or am i going to have to start a whole new dynasty?

You don't need to restart. Whenever you start a game you can choose what it'll be from the same screen where you pick your playbooks (I think the option is "Game Type" or something similar). The 3 types are Normal (or something similar), 1 button, and Coach. Select coach from there and you're in coach mode.