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  • mgcst5
    Rookie
    • Jun 2011
    • 381

    #1

    Playbook Sharing Thread

    So after searching the thread numerous times I discovered there is no where for people to share there custom playbooks (SimSports is great but I am interested in seeing peoples concepts, schemes, and strategies). I am not talking about playbooks where you just picked a bunch of plays and formations you like and put them together, I am referring to something much more in depth. Coming up with a concept and building a scheme around the concept.

    I think that using SimSports for posting the actual playbook could be beneficial so I left a spot where you can post the link that way there won't be plays posted everywhere and we can focus more on strategy and scheme crafting.

    If you still don't understand what I am talking about check out the scribd link on this blog entry: http://www.simsports.net/entry.php/2...rn-s-Shootbone

    I'm hoping that this can be a tool for passionate NCAA gamers such as myself.

    To keep it organized I was thinking something around this format.

    Playbook Name:

    Base Offense:

    SimSports Link:

    Position Requirements:

    Key Plays:

    Recruiting Recommendations:

    Strategies:

    Additional Notes:


    This may flame out but I noticed a lot of people struggle with RDS and I was able to overcome this by crafting my own scheme from scratch and starting a long coaching career.

    I will post my offense shortly. Any feedback on the playbook, thread, or whatever please feel free to post. If a mod has a problem with the thread for whatever reason please PM me so I can make appropriate adjustments

    Edit: You cannot view the simsports link through tapatalk
    Last edited by mgcst5; 06-26-2014, 03:59 PM.
  • mgcst5
    Rookie
    • Jun 2011
    • 381

    #2
    Re: Playbook Sharing Thread

    Playbook Name: Wing 7 (My base formation loooks like a 7 if you look at how the QB, RB, TE, and Oline line up)

    Base Offense: Georgia Tech (Option)

    SimSports Link: http://www.simsports.net/viewPlayboo...bid=2263&gid=2

    Position Requirements:
    QB: Must be a scrambler. This offense is mostly about running the ball and the QB is the trigger man. I actually designed this scheme so that a good passer is not needed. I have found success running the ball with someone with no throwing attributes to speak of. I discovered nomatter what the attributes many screen passes can be completed so passing the ball with someone with throw attributes in the 40s is still possible. Ideally this wont be the case but it can be useful if transitioning to a new job.

    RB: Similar to a BBack in the flexbone. These guys need to be bigger backs (200+ lbs) speed is important but they don't have to be speedsters as someone with 80+ speed can be fine as long as they can break tackles

    FB: The offense barely uses them. Strictly blockers.

    WR(1 and 2): These guys are outside blockers. I prefer them big (6'3 ~200lbs) and strong (60+ strength). Speed isn't very important they just need to have reliable hands and block

    WR (3-6): These are like Abacks or slotbacks. They need to be small, fast, and elusive. My 3 and 4 "recievers typically combine for over 1500yds rushing and 1000 recieving.

    TE: This is very similar to an H-Back. I prefer better blockers with a little bit of speed and good hands never hurt. More of a safety net target + lead blocker

    OL: Run Blockers with good acceleration. Simple as that, going to be doing a lot of next level blocks.

    Key Plays: Shotgun Wing trips offset Wk is the base formation. I typically will run Tr Opt Lead LT/RT about 50% of the time. For third downs I typically will use Mtn PA flood and hot route based on how I read the coverage. A TE with good speed will get open a lot on this play. The mtn read option sets up my pistol package.

    In pistol wing trips (after I have set this formation up using mtn read option) I will run the regular read option as well as WR screen/Fake screen. This is just for another wrinkle and I feel that the motion links the two formations.

    Out of Shotgun trio 4 WR I mainly try to run the read option/mtn WR option for some quick yardage and then run PA WR in for the deep ball (A fast No. 4 WR will get open deep a lot)

    The other two formations are for short yardage, Pistol Wing Trio is for the redzone were I can power it in or even roll out and find an open reciever in the endzone

    The Power I is strictly for inches situations (QB Sneak is lethal with a good running QB

    Recruiting Recommendations:
    QB: As previously mentioned I typically target scramblers but more importantly I go after athletes with solid throw attributes. Even if they aren't needed for the QB spot they typically can fit in at other positions in this scheme.

    RB: Big backs only, smaller backs wont generate enough yardage between the tackles. Sometimes I will find the odd fullback that is decently fast. Power runners are the best targets.

    FB: I honestly don't even recruit these guys for the fullback position (Usually end up as H-Backs or BBacks). Walkons are fine. If you feel so inclined you could target big blockers but its a waste of a scholarship.

    WR: (1 and 2): I try to find the biggest strongest recievers with decent hands. In my dynasties they typically combine for less than 250yds per season.

    WR: (3-6): The slotbacks are the linchpins of the offense. The No. 3 reciever is your small runner. They will catch passes but I found out the offense runs best with a better receiver at No. 4. These guys need to be really fast. Small running backs, receivers, and athletes are perfect.

    TE: Find someone with good speed and great blocking attributes. The speed can become a difference maker but the lead blocking is key.

    OL: Just fine the best run blockers you can. I don't spend much time recruiting them since the offense can run even with a weak OLine, although it is always better to be good in the trenches.

    Strategies: The offense is most effective when run out of the hurry up. The issue is this can lead to injuries so I will only do this if I have a lot of depth at each position.

    Don't be afraid to run plays repeatedly if it is working and make sure you are persistent with the running game.

    MAKE GOOD DECISIONS! Don't be afraid to take a loss instead of a bad pitch, or throw the ball away. Even having your QB slide to avoid a hit can help you long-term.

    Additional Notes: The only additional note I have is regarding the depth chart. When I am setting it up my 1 and 2 recievers usually are my second best blocking WRs. I then AutoSub my best ones over them. This essentially allows you to have a seperate depth chart of the WR's and slotbacks (if you don't understand please message me I will try to explain better)
    Last edited by mgcst5; 06-25-2014, 04:20 PM.

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    • Dr Death
      Air Raid
      • May 2009
      • 1632

      #3
      Re: Playbook Sharing Thread

      Great thread idea!!! I'm going to write an in-depth article on the Run & Shoot - how I run it - how small and simple my playbook is and how certain things that I do are heavily borrowed from Mike Leach's philosophy on football. And yes, I do use some Air Raid staples in my R&S offense.

      Anyway, hopefully this thread does two things: 1: Brings a lot of playbooks out in the open for people to look at and read about and 2: Help to give people new ways of looking at not only the NCAA game, but at football in general.

      It's funny what a little education can do... and I am hoping that this thread takes off, because the premise behind it is brilliant!
      Dr Death
      Air Raid

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      • thedudescrew
        Pro
        • Oct 2009
        • 682

        #4
        Re: Playbook Sharing Thread

        Originally posted by Dr Death
        Great thread idea!!! I'm going to write an in-depth article on the Run & Shoot - how I run it - how small and simple my playbook is and how certain things that I do are heavily borrowed from Mike Leach's philosophy on football. And yes, I do use some Air Raid staples in my R&S offense.

        Anyway, hopefully this thread does two things: 1: Brings a lot of playbooks out in the open for people to look at and read about and 2: Help to give people new ways of looking at not only the NCAA game, but at football in general.

        It's funny what a little education can do... and I am hoping that this thread takes off, because the premise behind it is brilliant!
        i look forward to that man. then i can use it for my Portland State Vikings dynasty.

        Sent from my N9510 using Tapatalk
        Won't change my sig until the Seattle Seahawks win the Super Bowl...wait, that happened ! Let's win another one! Go Hawks!!

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        • thedudescrew
          Pro
          • Oct 2009
          • 682

          #5
          Re: Playbook Sharing Thread

          Originally posted by mgcst5
          Playbook Name: Wing 7 (My base formation loooks like a 7 if you look at how the QB, RB, TE, and Oline line up)

          Base Offense: Georgia Tech (Option)

          SimSports Link: http://www.simsports.net/viewPlayboo...bid=2263&gid=2

          Position Requirements:
          QB: Must be a scrambler. This offense is mostly about running the ball and the QB is the trigger man. I actually designed this scheme so that a good passer is not needed. I have found success running the ball with someone with no throwing attributes to speak of. I discovered nomatter what the attributes many screen passes can be completed so passing the ball with someone with throw attributes in the 40s is still possible. Ideally this wont be the case but it can be useful if transitioning to a new job.

          RB: Similar to a BBack in the flexbone. These guys need to be bigger backs (200+ lbs) speed is important but they don't have to be speedsters as someone with 80+ speed can be fine as long as they can break tackles

          FB: The offense barely uses them. Strictly blockers.

          WR(1 and 2): These guys are outside blockers. I prefer them big (6'3 ~200lbs) and strong (60+ strength). Speed isn't very important they just need to have reliable hands and block

          WR (3-6): These are like Abacks or slotbacks. They need to be small, fast, and elusive. My 3 and 4 "recievers typically combine for over 1500yds rushing and 1000 recieving.

          TE: This is very similar to an H-Back. I prefer better blockers with a little bit of speed and good hands never hurt. More of a safety net target + lead blocker

          OL: Run Blockers with good acceleration. Simple as that, going to be doing a lot of next level blocks.

          Key Plays: Shotgun Wing trips offset Wk is the base formation. I typically will run Tr Opt Lead LT/RT about 50% of the time. For third downs I typically will use Mtn PA flood and hot route based on how I read the coverage. A TE with good speed will get open a lot on this play. The mtn read option sets up my pistol package.

          In pistol wing trips (after I have set this formation up using mtn read option) I will run the regular read option as well as WR screen/Fake screen. This is just for another wrinkle and I feel that the motion links the two formations.

          Out of Shotgun trio 4 WR I mainly try to run the read option/mtn WR option for some quick yardage and then run PA WR in for the deep ball (A fast No. 4 WR will get open deep a lot)

          The other two formations are for short yardage, Pistol Wing Trio is for the redzone were I can power it in or even roll out and find an open reciever in the endzone

          The Power I is strictly for inches situations (QB Sneak is lethal with a good running QB

          Recruiting Recommendations:
          QB: As previously mentioned I typically target scramblers but more importantly I go after athletes with solid throw attributes. Even if they aren't needed for the QB spot they typically can fit in at other positions in this scheme.

          RB: Big backs only, smaller backs wont generate enough yardage between the tackles. Sometimes I will find the odd fullback that is decently fast. Power runners are the best targets.

          FB: I honestly don't even recruit these guys for the fullback position (Usually end up as H-Backs or BBacks). Walkons are fine. If you feel so inclined you could target big blockers but its a waste of a scholarship.

          WR: (1 and 2): I try to find the biggest strongest recievers with decent hands. In my dynasties they typically combine for less than 250yds per season.

          WR: (3-6): The slotbacks are the linchpins of the offense. The No. 3 reciever is your small runner. They will catch passes but I found out the offense runs best with a better receiver at No. 4. These guys need to be really fast. Small running backs, receivers, and athletes are perfect.

          TE: Find someone with good speed and great blocking attributes. The speed can become a difference maker but the lead blocking is key.

          OL: Just fine the best run blockers you can. I don't spend much time recruiting them since the offense can run even with a weak OLine, although it is always better to be good in the trenches.

          Strategies: The offense is most effective when run out of the hurry up. The issue is this can lead to injuries so I will only do this if I have a lot of depth at each position.

          Don't be afraid to run plays repeatedly if it is working and make sure you are persistent with the running game.

          MAKE GOOD DECISIONS! Don't be afraid to take a loss instead of a bad pitch, or throw the ball away. Even having your QB slide to avoid a hit can help you long-term.

          Additional Notes: The only additional note I have is regarding the depth chart. When I am setting it up my 1 and 2 recievers usually are my second best blocking WRs. I then AutoSub my best ones over them. This essentially allows you to have a seperate depth chart of the WR's and slotbacks (if you don't understand please message me I will try to explain better)
          I would love to try your playbook out but the link isn't working for me.

          Sent from my N9510 using Tapatalk
          Won't change my sig until the Seattle Seahawks win the Super Bowl...wait, that happened ! Let's win another one! Go Hawks!!

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          • mgcst5
            Rookie
            • Jun 2011
            • 381

            #6
            Re: Playbook Sharing Thread

            Originally posted by thedudescrew
            I would love to try your playbook out but the link isn't working for me.

            Sent from my N9510 using Tapatalk

            Hmmm thats weird. What is it saying?

            Edit: I tried it after logging out of SS and it still was displaying for me. Thats really strange.
            Last edited by mgcst5; 06-26-2014, 10:37 AM.

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            • thedudescrew
              Pro
              • Oct 2009
              • 682

              #7
              Re: Playbook Sharing Thread

              It wasn't saying anything. Just a blank page.

              Maybe it's a tapatalk issue. You have a direct link or the file you could send me in email? Otherwise you could post the playbook formations and plays here for me.

              Either way thanks

              Sent from my N9510 using Tapatalk
              Last edited by thedudescrew; 06-26-2014, 03:17 PM.
              Won't change my sig until the Seattle Seahawks win the Super Bowl...wait, that happened ! Let's win another one! Go Hawks!!

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              • mgcst5
                Rookie
                • Jun 2011
                • 381

                #8
                Re: Playbook Sharing Thread

                Originally posted by thedudescrew
                It wasn't saying anything. Just a blank page.

                Maybe it's a tapatalk issue. You have a direct link or the file you could send me in email? Otherwise you could post the playbook formations and plays here for me.

                Either way thanks

                Sent from my N9510 using Tapatalk

                Ahhh thats why. The site doesn't seem to work on tapatalk. I can email you the link it might be easier to just use a computer

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                • thedudescrew
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 682

                  #9
                  Re: Playbook Sharing Thread

                  Try email. I don't have a cpu on a regular basis.


                  Thanks again

                  Sent from my N9510 using Tapatalk
                  Last edited by thedudescrew; 06-26-2014, 04:19 PM.
                  Won't change my sig until the Seattle Seahawks win the Super Bowl...wait, that happened ! Let's win another one! Go Hawks!!

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                  • mgcst5
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 381

                    #10
                    Re: Playbook Sharing Thread

                    Originally posted by thedudescrew
                    Try email. I don't have a cpu on a regular basis.

                    [email protected]
                    Thanks again

                    Sent from my N9510 using Tapatalk

                    Sent it sir.

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                    • thedudescrew
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 682

                      #11
                      Re: Playbook Sharing Thread

                      Originally posted by mgcst5
                      Sent it sir.
                      works now, forgot i needed to register.

                      Sent from my N9510 using Tapatalk
                      Won't change my sig until the Seattle Seahawks win the Super Bowl...wait, that happened ! Let's win another one! Go Hawks!!

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                      • richeyd80
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 43

                        #12
                        Re: Playbook Sharing Thread

                        Originally posted by Dr Death
                        Great thread idea!!! I'm going to write an in-depth article on the Run & Shoot - how I run it - how small and simple my playbook is and how certain things that I do are heavily borrowed from Mike Leach's philosophy on football. And yes, I do use some Air Raid staples in my R&S offense.

                        Anyway, hopefully this thread does two things: 1: Brings a lot of playbooks out in the open for people to look at and read about and 2: Help to give people new ways of looking at not only the NCAA game, but at football in general.

                        It's funny what a little education can do... and I am hoping that this thread takes off, because the premise behind it is brilliant!
                        Can't wait to read this article

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                        • jt2000
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 590

                          #13
                          Re: Playbook Sharing Thread

                          Sorry guys but, I am don't want to or have time to break down my FSU Fast break offense. It been online long enough.

                          1994 FSU Fast Break Offense Ranked as the #2 playbook out of the Top 25 on Simsports.

                          (Formations and plays) http://www.simsports.net/viewPlayboo...pbid=567&gid=2

                          Let me introduce you to the fastest offense on earth! The FSU 1994 Fast break offense!

                          As for the running plays: Toss, Sweep, Power O/Off Tackle/Dive/Iso/Blast, Fullback Trap/Dive, Fullback Belly, Strongside Sprint Draw, Weakside Sprint Draw, and Counter I Formation Runs. An for all means add the OPTION! (Also put in HB Direct in your playbook from Shotgun 4 Wide set)

                          As for passing Z, Y, X, and T Shallow Cross and the down the field vert plays. Most of the routes are post cornors, cornors, hitches, curls, zigs, fly, etc. Most of your deep down the field routes mixed with short routes. More long then short routes tho.

                          Formations:
                          1. Base - This was a 2 wr, 1 te, 2 back set. (Include Shotgun formations)
                          2. Panther - This is 3 wr and 2 backs. (Includes I-Form/Strong/Weak Slot)
                          3. Rifle - This is 4 wr with 1 back.


                          You will also need complimenting offensive sets like
                          1. SG 5 wide
                          2. I Form sets that have the 1TE, 2wr, 2 back personel included.
                          3. Pro Form - any of the pro forms will work
                          4. Strong twins, Weak normal,Strong Normal, Weak twins - all these have 1 te 2 wr and 2 backs

                          You can also add in SG Normal with audibling to Ace Y strips or SG Y trips.

                          Basically you are a little handcuffed because with the FSU offense they could come out in a SG Split which is FSU's BASE formation and call any SG Split play or audible to any of these formations:
                          1. I Form normal
                          2. I form Twins
                          3. Strong/ Weak Normal
                          4. Strong/ Weak Twins
                          5. Pro Form normal

                          Lets say there are 10 plays per formation, that is over 80 possible plays you could see. Not that you would, but that is the potential. Now you have only 5 audibles to run along with you original play call. Hope this gets you started.

                          Note not all these formations has to be in the playbook. The pdf for the offense had the I -form normal, slot, and twins as their base I formations. The weak and strong was a "option" install If needed. Feel free to pick the formations you want to run. but, stay with the core of the offense system to get the best results.

                          To sum it up, your working out I-Form/Strong/Weak formations and Shotgun formatioins with one or two Singleback formations to swtich from Ace to Shotgun with little movement. This offense is made to go from one formation to another very smoothly basically running the same plays. This should be a very FUN offense to run!

                          FSU 94 Fast Break Offense

                          When it comes to the passing concepts I think mark richt built many of FSU passing concepts around the shallow route. To make the Fastbreak offense more explosive and simplistic like it was in 93 I have added as many shallow concept plays for panther and rifle formations as I could. What I did next was organized them from what works best on the left hash, between the hash marks, and right hash. It makes it easier to call the plays and it keeps me from getting to complicated when I transition to the different I formations.

                          These are my 12 formations

                          I Form Normal
                          I Form Twins
                          I Form Slot
                          SG Split -Base split
                          SG Split Offset - Panther split (I think this is from UGA playbook it has more of the Shallow routes in it, although its not the original alighnment)
                          SG Split Twins
                          SG Spread Flex -Rifle Split
                          SG Spread Flex Wk - Rifle Split
                          SG Spread Base
                          Split - Pro

                          NOTE: Singleback formatioins is to you as it was in the offense back in '94 and stated in the Offense notes/PDF.

                          I have 2 audibles dedicated to base sets then my other 3 audibles are I form slot flex, I form Normal, and I form Twins. I can really confuse the defense. It gives me access to so many plays after I call my no huddle play.

                          I don't use the split pro or army split that much. FSU didn't use it that much either but it was popular in 1994. Its really a quick transition. The only player that moves is the QB from center to gun position. I can get out of a bad pro split play call pretty easily.

                          From The pro formations standpoint. I played with them and really didn't get much out of them so, I probably won't even add them. As for the I form plays I like to switch them out to have the option (load, speed, and power) and the option pass plays also. The same goes with the SG dual RB formations. I add the option plays in there also but, look for alot passing plays that include the RB's on swing routes and flat routes.

                          As for the Singleback formations, I am thinking keeping the Trio formation as it has the same formation in the Shotgun also. This also goes for the Slot formation that has it both in WKU and UGA playbook. When I looked at the PDF I only saw Slot and Y-Trips in it so, I may just keep them. NOTE: Its up to you when it comes to Singleback. In the final version I didn't add none.

                          I add all the shallow crosses I can get in (X, Y, Z, and sometimes H) then stick, verts, mesh etc....from what I read for the PDF its run first offense then when the defense loads the box and then BAM let it fly over the top. Which that's how I play but, I got side tracked with all the Air Raid which isn't really how I row.

                          I been taking notes on the past few days from the PDF that has FSU 94 offense and took it for a test run in a OD game tonight in theory from WKU playbook (I just love that playbook, it has this offense we are talking about in planted in it). An lord to be hold I ended beating on of the top guys in the league just by running I-Form Power O, Blast, and Iso. Then piggy backing off PA Power O when he loads the box. So, the offense does work that's for sure. NOTE I done the playbook with UGA playbook but, WKU playbook is suitable as well.

                          I am a run first to setup the pass type of guy. I was looking for a fast offense to allow to do this. An BAM! I found this offense and after talking to true blue FSU fans about this offense and studying it for nearly a week. It has what I like which are:

                          1) Power running
                          2) taking long shots down the field when they load the box.
                          3) shallow cross as it passing core base.
                          4) matching personal based off matching formations. (This year no huddle system is made for this offense.)
                          5)An you can make this offense with as little as 12 formations and add the option to it.
                          You have a nasty little offense.

                          Enjoy guys,

                          John

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                          • mgcst5
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 381

                            #14
                            Re: Playbook Sharing Thread

                            Awesome post John. What are the positional requirements. Like what type of players should be recruited by position?

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                            • jt2000
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 590

                              #15
                              Re: Playbook Sharing Thread

                              Originally posted by mgcst5
                              Awesome post John. What are the positional requirements. Like what type of players should be recruited by position?
                              Thanks, I thought I had that already in the write up. LOL


                              Position Requirements:
                              QB: Must be a scrambler with a good Passing Acc and Throwing Power. This offense is a pure No-Huddle offense and will be get your players tired quickly.

                              RB: 1 Power and 1 speed to mix and match

                              FB: Balance with a good mix of blocking and catching

                              WR(1 and 2): These guys are all speed. I prefer them big (6'3 + and 200lbs+) and strong (60+ strength). Your Slots (3 and 4) Route running (a must 80+ ), Catch in traffic (a must 80+) and for speed 85 +.

                              WR (5-6): Look for all around talent with a good mix of speed, cit, rr, and awr.

                              TE: Since its a hurry up. A catching TE is nice but, since you will you running the ball go for a blance and try to recuit a catching TE to mix in your 2 TE sets. Look for speed, awr, rr, and cit.

                              OL: I go with (LT and RT Pass blockers) and my (2 Guards run blockers)

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