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  • olliekse
    Rookie
    • Jul 2012
    • 97

    #1

    Hail Mary Foul BS

    Essentially, i was playing online and my opponent had the ball in his own half, next to the inbound line as he'd just collected it off a defensive rebound. By accident, he must of flicked the right stick or pressed square and he launched the ball hail mary style across the entire court, an air ball naturally. But i pressed square to steal the ball as he was doing this, and the ref called a foul - 3 free throws shots. Now i don't watch a lot of basketball as i live in England, but in real life, if someone hail mary's like that, how does the ref know it was intended to be a shot? This cost me the game as he sank the free throws. Is this the game engine working as designed (because a shot was initiated and a foul was called) or is this an error by the developers (lack of discretion)?
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  • bo.jangles344
    Banned
    • Jun 2013
    • 1007

    #2
    Re: Hail Mary Foul BS

    Why are you going for a foul past half court if you have the lead?

    That's on you, not the game.

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    • LoSoisNiCEx414
      MVP
      • Sep 2010
      • 1162

      #3
      Re: Hail Mary Foul BS

      Its not bs if you were reaching...

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      • olliekse
        Rookie
        • Jul 2012
        • 97

        #4
        Re: Hail Mary Foul BS

        Yes i was reaching, but i wasn't in the bonus, so it should have been the opponents inbound. What I'm disputing is the ref knowing the players intentions when he's bombing it down court like that.
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        • MisterIndiana
          Rookie
          • Apr 2013
          • 120

          #5
          Re: Hail Mary Foul BS

          The ref knows its intended to be a shot because it IS a shot. They'd only bomb it down court (in the game) for a full court shot or such. That's your own fault for reaching too much. The game thought you were trying to foul and he was in the shooting motion when you fouled. That will equal a shooting foul, so he gets his 3 freethrows since he was behind the three point line.

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          • olliekse
            Rookie
            • Jul 2012
            • 97

            #6
            Re: Hail Mary Foul BS

            Im aware of the outcomes in the game world, but i asked if the developers have made an error here because in real life, the ref would not be able to distinguish such a motion as it is nothing like a jumpshot and its from the other end of the court, it could of been a fast-break pass...
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            • 19LloydBanks82
              Banned
              • Aug 2013
              • 610

              #7
              Re: Hail Mary Foul BS

              Originally posted by olliekse
              Im aware of the outcomes in the game world, but i asked if the developers have made an error here because in real life, the ref would not be able to distinguish such a motion as it is nothing like a jumpshot and its from the other end of the court, it could of been a fast-break pass...
              No, it's not the developers fault. Of course refs would call a shooting foul if that would happen in real life. Some players try do it sometimes. Chris Paul in game 5 against OKC for example.

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              • olliekse
                Rookie
                • Jul 2012
                • 97

                #8
                Re: Hail Mary Foul BS



                Watch the first attempt, its that exact motion. Are you telling me that a ref would call a shooting foul on that when its the Centre tossing it when the clock has 1 minute or more to go?
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                • 19LloydBanks82
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 610

                  #9
                  Re: Hail Mary Foul BS

                  Originally posted by olliekse
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNGLpFmyX3Y

                  Watch the first attempt, its that exact motion. Are you telling me that a ref would call a shooting foul on that when its the Centre tossing it when the clock has 1 minute or more to go?
                  If you foul him, yeah. It's easy to whether the player is trying to pass the ball or shoot it.

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                  • KyotoCarl
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 3827

                    #10
                    Re: Hail Mary Foul BS

                    Originally posted by olliekse
                    Essentially, i was playing online and my opponent had the ball in his own half, next to the inbound line as he'd just collected it off a defensive rebound. By accident, he must of flicked the right stick or pressed square and he launched the ball hail mary style across the entire court, an air ball naturally. But i pressed square to steal the ball as he was doing this, and the ref called a foul - 3 free throws shots. Now i don't watch a lot of basketball as i live in England, but in real life, if someone hail mary's like that, how does the ref know it was intended to be a shot? This cost me the game as he sank the free throws. Is this the game engine working as designed (because a shot was initiated and a foul was called) or is this an error by the developers (lack of discretion)?
                    A hail mary is the name of that sort of shot. Why are you trying to steal it at half court when he's shooting from there? Mistake was on your side, not the refs.

                    Also; it's a game, sold in millions of copies. Of the thousands of games being played everyday strange things are gonna happen in some. Nothing strange.
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                    • Phreezy P
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 3219

                      #11
                      Re: Hail Mary Foul BS

                      I had Kawhi Leonard make a full court shot while the CPU reached and fouled. Unfortunately it wasn't recorded, but it was insane.
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