Hardcore vs Simulation

[Steven547]

Hoping to get clarification here. When I first started to play NHL 15, it asks you to set up your preferences. From this screen, it says that SIMULATION is the more "balanced"gameplay. I would assume this means realism.

However, when you go into the sliders, it says that HARDCORE is the most realistic.

So, I'm confused. Any clarification on which is which and better for a realistic experience? I know that we start with one, then as we change, it moves to custom. But what is the difference between balanced and realistic then??

Thanks.

[Al_Tito13]

Re: Hardcore vs Simulation

To be honest, game style names aren't really good or revealing and it helps bringing a lot of confusion. What they call Simulation to me should be called Arcade, since there is a lot of assist given to the player in term of passing and hitting, there is less fatigue, more puck control and it goes on and on. What they call Hardcore for me could be called Simulation, because it's harder and the most realistic setting.

By the way, All-Star/Hardcore is the setting used for online games.

[eal2yf]

Re: Hardcore vs Simulation

To be honest, game style names aren't really good or revealing and it helps bringing a lot of confusion. What they call Simulation to me should be called Arcade, since there is a lot of assist given to the player in term of passing and hitting, there is less fatigue, more puck control and it goes on and on. What they call Hardcore for me could be called Simulation, because it's harder and the most realistic setting.

By the way, All-Star/Hardcore is the setting used for online games.

Source? Are you 100% sure? Because the goalies seem awful and i consistently seem to poke check the puck off my opponents stick, only for him to retrieve possession of it within a half second or so...

Basically, i've just spent the last hour trying to figure out how to play online versus in hardcore 'mode', and this is the first i'm hearing of any ability to do so, let alone it being the default.

[Steven547]

Re: Hardcore vs Simulation

To be honest, game style names aren't really good or revealing and it helps bringing a lot of confusion. What they call Simulation to me should be called Arcade, since there is a lot of assist given to the player in term of passing and hitting, there is less fatigue, more puck control and it goes on and on. What they call Hardcore for me could be called Simulation, because it's harder and the most realistic setting.

By the way, All-Star/Hardcore is the setting used for online games.

Thanks for the response. And that is what confuses me. On one screen it says SIM is the "balanced" gameplay. Another says Hardcore is the most realistic. So when they say "balanced" I would assume realistic and that the game plays to the ratings and there is no over the top gameplay.

Then I see the "hardcore" definition in a later menu saying "most realistic". I understand that once you change settings, it goes to custom. However, the " basis"has been set underneath.

One thing I'm pretty sure about....the sliders seem to work a whole heck of a lot better this year. I have pass accuracy at 0 with retention real low and see a lot of missed passes. And with one time difficulty at 0, I see guys missing one timers from a few feet out.

[Al_Tito13]

Re: Hardcore vs Simulation

Source?

https://twitter.com/Rammer34/status/504347447292747776

[jake19ny]

Re: Hardcore vs Simulation

Truth is it doesn't matter if your going to make adjustments to sliders. Arcade, Simulation, and Hardcore are just pre set sliders allegedly providing us with that style game play. Its not like there is something hardcoded into the game that makes it play different when you select one or the other. That's why no matter what you select the minute you adjust just one slider the mode changes from whatever you selected to "Custom"

[Al_Tito13]

Re: Hardcore vs Simulation

Truth is it doesn't matter if your going to make adjustments to sliders. Arcade, Simulation, and Hardcore are just pre set sliders allegedly providing us with that style game play. Its not like there is something hardcoded into the game that makes it play different when you select one or the other. That's why no matter what you select the minute you adjust just one slider the mode changes from whatever you selected to "Custom"

I also thought this was true, but after some people said the opposite, I tested it last year starting from the High Impact game style, while making the same adjustments. And it was definitely playing differently from Hardcore. I don't know if it's still the case this year though.

[iommirules]

Re: Hardcore vs Simulation

"simulation" is more arcadey than hardcore (go figya). If you like 8-5 games and Lundquist to have an 825 save percentage play simulation. If u like lower scoring defensive games go with hardcore. I personally don't like to mess with sliders unless the game gets to easy or hard in the defined areas.

[iommirules]

Re: Hardcore vs Simulation

To be honest, game style names aren't really good or revealing and it helps bringing a lot of confusion. What they call Simulation to me should be called Arcade, since there is a lot of assist given to the player in term of passing and hitting, there is less fatigue, more puck control and it goes on and on. What they call Hardcore for me could be called Simulation, because it's harder and the most realistic setting.

By the way, All-Star/Hardcore is the setting used for online games.

I agree its misleading... I was 6 games into my first gm mode season before I realized hardcore was more sim than "simulation"..... I deleted my season and started over on hardcore

[canucksss]

Re: Hardcore vs Simulation

IMO, its the same...EA just put it there to seem that there is difference...but in reality there's none. I did 2 BaGM one is AS/Sim and AS/H....not much of a difference really.

[MizzouRah]

Re: Hardcore vs Simulation

Make sure you go back in and check to make sure it says "hardcore" and not "custom" at least in BeaGM. If you change something lost post whistle rules to "authentic" it will change to "custom" which also changes game speed back to simulation and passing to auto. For some reason on "hardcore" you have to use "relaxed" post whistle settings.

I notice a HUGE difference with "simulation" vs "hardcore". Hardcore feels MUCH more like real hockey to me. (first year I've actually used it)

[Steven547]

Re: Hardcore vs Simulation

Make sure you go back in and check to make sure it says "hardcore" and not "custom" at least in BeaGM. If you change something lost post whistle rules to "authentic" it will change to "custom" which also changes game speed back to simulation and passing to auto. For some reason on "hardcore" you have to use "relaxed" post whistle settings.

I notice a HUGE difference with "simulation" vs "hardcore". Hardcore feels MUCH more like real hockey to me. (first year I've actually used it)

If i remember correctly from last year, you have to change the gamestyle first, THEN tweak your sliders.

[ParisB]

Re: Hardcore vs Simulation

Make sure you go back in and check to make sure it says "hardcore" and not "custom" at least in BeaGM. If you change something lost post whistle rules to "authentic" it will change to "custom" which also changes game speed back to simulation and passing to auto. For some reason on "hardcore" you have to use "relaxed" post whistle settings.

I notice a HUGE difference with "simulation" vs "hardcore". Hardcore feels MUCH more like real hockey to me. (first year I've actually used it)

It's just preset sliders. Set to hardcore first so it adjusts your sliders, and then change the rules to authentic etc.

It will then show custom but you will be using the hardcore preset sliders still.

[MizzouRah]

Re: Hardcore vs Simulation

It's just preset sliders. Set to hardcore first so it adjusts your sliders, and then change the rules to authentic etc.

It will then show custom but you will be using the hardcore preset sliders still.

Yes, but it changes the game speed and what not.