The straw that broke the camels back revisited

[thedream2k13]

I love the new videos of 2k and the direction they are taking the franchise. Last night while browsing YouTube I ran across a video of the 2k KING OF THE COURT Tourney. To no surprise it looked like complete crap with the way the guys were playing. Everything we have seen so far is far better than this. It seems 2k14 was just the template for 15

It may hurt your eyes to watch but these are the so called " elite" 2k14 players.

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Thank you all at 2k for changing EVERYTHING wrong in this video

[Equinox831]

Re: The straw that broke the camels back revisited

There are a lot of things in that video that you simply can't fix from a gameplay perspective without ruining the game. The easiest way to avoid that is to only play online with people that you know. Sports games aren't perfect, so you can't really expect a perfect sim experience online. People suck. 2K does all they can to put together the best sim experience, but you can't change people and how they play.

[daveberg]

Re: The straw that broke the camels back revisited

I don't play online at all. Even in sim leagues I couldn't find folk who played to 'my' standard of sim.

If it don't look half way like a real broadcast then I'm not playing it. Offline only, that way I can control things a little more instead of watching a human opponent turbo around the entire court playing like he's on speed at Rucker Park.

[Kaanyr Vhok]

Re: The straw that broke the camels back revisited

There are a lot of things in that video that you simply can't fix from a gameplay perspective without ruining the game. The easiest way to avoid that is to only play online with people that you know. Sports games aren't perfect, so you can't really expect a perfect sim experience online. People suck. 2K does all they can to put together the best sim experience, but you can't change people and how they play.

Most of it is fixable if its acknowledged as an issue. I have said all along that people who complain about users playing offball defense are ignoring how bad the CPU's offball defense is in man. Half of what was wrong with this video was lob cheese and it wasnt the pass/catch/dunk mostly it was the defense standing there saying "hey man you want to jump up and catch a lob if so I aint gonna do nothing."

So basically you have lob cheese or rather poor offball pass defense. Stars that are comparatively overrated athletically. Durant is in a game where guys like Brandon Bass and Quincy Acy have speed ratings in the 60s.

You have invisible walls on dunks moving too fast at 3/4 speed and other smaller things. One thing I noticed is that the defense was more aware in 1-3-1. Its not a realistic defense because its not ran in the league but to be honest the CPU played more realistic offball defense in 1-3-1. Visual Concepts should keep the spirit of the 1-3-1.

[El_Poopador]

Re: The straw that broke the camels back revisited

I love the new videos of 2k and the direction they are taking the franchise. Last night while browsing YouTube I ran across a video of the 2k KING OF THE COURT Tourney. To no surprise it looked like complete crap with the way the guys were playing. Everything we have seen so far is far better than this. It seems 2k14 was just the template for 15

It may hurt your eyes to watch but these are the so called " elite" 2k14 players.

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Thank you all at 2k for changing EVERYTHING wrong in this video

Where have you seen footage that shows none of this exists in 2k15?

[raiderphantom]

Re: The straw that broke the camels back revisited

I haven't played CG 2K14 much but can you guys please bring back the quick screen option in 2k15 as opposed to the get open quick playcall? It was always a nice substitute for running a play to cycle through pages. For me personally, it made a HUGE difference. Not the wishlist thread, but I hope we see it. I wish we could see more concept plays, much like madden is doing now. But I really do think this will be the best sports game ever with Czar, Leftos, OG, and Beds in there. That's the superteam lol

[stillfeelme]

Re: The straw that broke the camels back revisited

Where have you seen footage that shows none of this exists in 2k15?

• I saw alleyoop cheese: Ipod said that they are not that easy to pull
• I saw zig zag cheese into alleyoop cheese: Not sure they said they addressed the combination of that but each one of them are supposed to not be in the game.
• 1-3-1 appears to be ran exclusively: Not even an option in the game.

[blues rocker]

Re: The straw that broke the camels back revisited

I love the new videos of 2k and the direction they are taking the franchise. Last night while browsing YouTube I ran across a video of the 2k KING OF THE COURT Tourney. To no surprise it looked like complete crap with the way the guys were playing. Everything we have seen so far is far better than this. It seems 2k14 was just the template for 15

It may hurt your eyes to watch but these are the so called " elite" 2k14 players.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/i9DheIJ2FGI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Thank you all at 2k for changing EVERYTHING wrong in this video

wow...that was ugly. even worse than i thought it would be. reminds me of why i traded in 2k14 after a few months. no strategy, no passing (except for b.s. alley oops where there weren't even openings...most of the time a defender was right there, but the guy just nudged him aside and dunked the alley pop anyway). total trash. the fact that these "elite" 2k players could be successful with such a "strategy" (or lack thereof) is troubling.

i'm not too optimistic that these issues will be gone in 2k15...maybe slightly lessened...but after seeing the trash that was allowed in 2k14, i can't imagine it will be truly fixed for 2k15.

[STLRams]

Re: The straw that broke the camels back revisited

I don't play online at all. Even in sim leagues I couldn't find folk who played to 'my' standard of sim.

If it don't look half way like a real broadcast then I'm not playing it. Offline only, that way I can control things a little more instead of watching a human opponent turbo around the entire court playing like he's on speed at Rucker Park.

Agreed, I play online probably about 1% of the time and it is only against me nephew and couple of friends. Other than that I try to stay away from online play because of stuff like that.

[Vni]

Re: The straw that broke the camels back revisited

The 0 skill involved alley oops need to go.

Timing window to complete it should be really thin on this.

[westfl87]

Re: The straw that broke the camels back revisited

I really do understand where people are getting at with this thread, but the first and for-most problem out of all this is the people controlling the sticks. Out of up most respect to the people that are playing in this video, they make the real elite players of 2k look like Gods. Real elite players really don't play in these tournament or online that much, considering more than likely there circle is small yet full of people who display higher basketball IQs and try to implement that when they play. If we had more of the community actually playing a 2k game as a simulation to basketball then 2k wouldn't be looking for fixes like zig-zag, ally-oop, charge cheese, and other exploits but could actually focus on giving us great feature and better overall game each year.

[NDAlum]

Re: The straw that broke the camels back revisited

I would love to interrupt the game and snatch up the controllers and throw them out the window. Everything about this video is a complete joke. Sadly this is what I would expect in playing NBA 2K online with randoms.

[Vni]

Re: The straw that broke the camels back revisited

What's more sad is that 2K sort of promoted that kind of gameplay with that thing.

[NDAlum]

Re: The straw that broke the camels back revisited

I guess I need to get off my "high horse" and just come to grips that people just care about highlights and oops and running around trying to score/win instead of actually playing basketball.

It's like this in every sports genre: find the game exploits and use it at all costs to win.

[El_Poopador]

Re: The straw that broke the camels back revisited

• I saw alleyoop cheese: Ipod said that they are not that easy to pull
• I saw zig zag cheese into alleyoop cheese: Not sure they said they addressed the combination of that but each one of them are supposed to not be in the game.
• 1-3-1 appears to be ran exclusively: Not even an option in the game.

Not to be negative, but I've heard that every year. Until I see and experience it for myself, I can't take someone else's word for it.