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  • jello1717
    All Star
    • Feb 2006
    • 5721

    #1

    Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

    I'm in the offseason and both of my assistants took head coaching jobs elsewhere. My more prestigious DC took the Oklahoma St gig while my OC got the Georgia St job.

    I get to players leaving and see that my SO CB is transferring to Okie St. I thought that was a cool coincidence (since that's where my DC went) but then I read the reason why he's transferring and it even said "Coach Leaving" so he really is following his coordinator to his new school. I think it's REALLY, REALLY awesome that this is in the game! Sadly, I've played 66 seasons worth of NCAA '14 dynasties and this is the first time I've seen this so I think it happens very rarely, but it's still very cool that it happens at all.
    Attached Files
    Favorite Teams:
    College #1: Michigan Wolverines
    College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
    College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
    NHL: Detroit Redwings
  • CowboyTAZ1965
    Rookie
    • Jan 2015
    • 50

    #2
    Re: Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

    wow that's sweet! One time I went from OC to HC and brought in like 4 offensive players through transferring, 3 from teams I had beaten but I've never seen that either.

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    • Skulletor
      Pro
      • Jul 2006
      • 776

      #3
      Re: Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

      I've seen the Coach Leaving before as a reason to transfer, it's rare but it happens. I haven't ever seen a guy go to the same school the new coach went to, I doubt there's logic for that case, but rather specifically had to do with scheme and location


      it's too bad they messed up transfers and early departures in NCAA 14, and I have yet to find a way to tune this with the editor. I'm guessing this is in the tuner file itself which is another mystery

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      • CowboyTAZ1965
        Rookie
        • Jan 2015
        • 50

        #4
        Re: Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

        Also, if you don't mind me asking, I noticed that your players leaving aren't filled of 99 OVRs and I was wondering how you go about recruiting and whatnot to keep a solid not stacked team

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        • martywebb
          Banned
          • May 2012
          • 188

          #5
          Re: Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

          That is extremely cool.

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          • jello1717
            All Star
            • Feb 2006
            • 5721

            #6
            Re: Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

            Originally posted by CowboyTAZ1965
            Also, if you don't mind me asking, I noticed that your players leaving aren't filled of 99 OVRs and I was wondering how you go about recruiting and whatnot to keep a solid not stacked team
            FWIW, I've only been @ Michigan for 3 years so I didn't recruit any of those guys except for the WR Burden who was a JUCO JR I got to fill a much needed lack of depth. Attached is what one of my graduating recruiting classes looks like. It's certainly better than Michigan's, but it's not crazy strong like most user teams deep in a dynasty.

            Anywho, I mainly do it with house rules, settings, and player edits.

            Firstly, I play on slowest coaching progression. I just finished my 18th season, but my coach just now hit level 25, and that's with 2 national championships and 7 conference championships under my belt. On normal progression I'd probably be around lvl 40 by now.

            I use house rules for recruit to limit my classes. I only allow 2/3 points in the following recruiting skills:
            • Royal Treatment
            • Opener
            • Closer
            • Kitchen Sink
            • Insta-commit (even after 18 seasons I'm still about 2 years away from getting even 1 point in this)

            W/ maxed out RT, and KS I could sign every player I wanted. With only 2/3 I end up fighting for a bunch of guys in the offseason and lose out on a bunch during the season. W/ maxed out recruiting I'd have 4* and 5* guys listed 3rd on my depth chart. W/O it maxed, I end up having to sign guys that I pray will only be career backups.

            I can only scout in the preseason.

            I can add anyone I want to my board in the preseason, but once the season starts, I can only add guys that already have me in their top 10. Also, I can not add any 4* or 5*s during the season (and no 3* FBs, Ps, or Ks).

            I can only offer schollies to enough guys to give me 70. I can't offer another scholly until I lose someone to another school or I drop the offered player from my board.

            EDITS:
            I note all QBs AWR @ the beginning of the season. Then, at the end of the season I remove half of the AWR they gained during the year (because user players gain WAY more AWR than CPU players).

            At the beginning of every season I edit the AWRs for all players that are > 70 down to 70.

            I also edit the injury ratings down for all incoming FR. This doesn't change their OVR much (except for OL guys who get -70 INJ) but it does a little.

            The biggest difference though is the recruiting tree restrictions I've imposed. With them I don't need to limit how many 5* or 4*s I can sign and I still don't have overpowering recruiting classes.
            Attached Files
            Last edited by jello1717; 03-05-2015, 06:28 PM.
            Favorite Teams:
            College #1: Michigan Wolverines
            College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
            College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
            NHL: Detroit Redwings

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            • StoneCalf
              Data Logger
              • Jul 2002
              • 569

              #7
              Re: Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

              jello I agree that's a neat touch. I've only experienced it once, and I'm currently in year 2040. Mine wasn't a player leaving my team, rather it was a player following me. I had left Alabama and went clear across the country to take the HC job at Oregon State, and a DT followed me.

              I'll tell you what's awesome- the game is solid enough that we're still playing avidly, having fun, and seeing new things. It's been a weather day for me here in the South (ice/sleet making roads impassable) so I've been getting in some good games today. After five seasons at Oregon State, I left to take over 1* UAB, so I've been scrapping it out with equally sucky 1* teams hehe.....and loving every minute of it!
              NCAA FB 2003 - 2014 Dynasties
              All time record: 1511-429
              145 dynasty seasons, no simming
              18 time National Champions
              53 Conference Championships
              NCAA 14: 614-182

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              • jello1717
                All Star
                • Feb 2006
                • 5721

                #8
                Re: Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

                Originally posted by CowboyTAZ1965
                Also, if you don't mind me asking, I noticed that your players leaving aren't filled of 99 OVRs and I was wondering how you go about recruiting and whatnot to keep a solid not stacked team
                Oh yeah, I also don't RS any 5*s nor anyone that is in my 2 deep. Because of this, most players don't RS for me. Look @ my UNC class. Out of the 10 guys you can see, only 3 of them RSed.
                Favorite Teams:
                College #1: Michigan Wolverines
                College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
                College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
                NHL: Detroit Redwings

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                • jbrew2411
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 2554

                  #9
                  Re: Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

                  I have seen the "coach leaving" as a reason a few times as well, but can't remember if any were following a coach. I know in my 3rd season at UGA, dynasty year 2020, I had 3 players transfer using the "coach leaving" reason as both my OC and DC took new jobs. None of them followed the coaches but 2 went to my HCs former school, New Mexico. I think my head coach won an award for his continued service to New Mexico for that one.

                  Come to think of it I had a really good player leave UGA when I took the job because of the coach leaving reason. I was replacing Mark Richt in dynasty year 2018. I don't recall where the player went; it was the first time I had seen that as a reason.
                  Relax, it's just a video game!

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                  • martywebb
                    Banned
                    • May 2012
                    • 188

                    #10
                    Re: Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

                    Originally posted by jello1717
                    FWIW, I've only been @ Michigan for 3 years so I didn't recruit any of those guys except for the WR Burden who was a JUCO JR I got to fill a much needed lack of depth. Attached is what one of my graduating recruiting classes looks like. It's certainly better than Michigan's, but it's not crazy strong like most user teams deep in a dynasty.

                    Anywho, I mainly do it with house rules, settings, and player edits.

                    Firstly, I play on slowest coaching progression. I just finished my 18th season, but my coach just now hit level 25, and that's with 2 national championships and 7 conference championships under my belt. On normal progression I'd probably be around lvl 40 by now.

                    I use house rules for recruit to limit my classes. I only allow 2/3 points in the following recruiting skills:
                    • Royal Treatment
                    • Opener
                    • Closer
                    • Kitchen Sink
                    • Insta-commit (even after 18 seasons I'm still about 2 years away from getting even 1 point in this)

                    W/ maxed out RT, and KS I could sign every player I wanted. With only 2/3 I end up fighting for a bunch of guys in the offseason and lose out on a bunch during the season. W/ maxed out recruiting I'd have 4* and 5* guys listed 3rd on my depth chart. W/O it maxed, I end up having to sign guys that I pray will only be career backups.

                    I can only scout in the preseason.

                    I can add anyone I want to my board in the preseason, but once the season starts, I can only add guys that already have me in their top 10. Also, I can not add any 4* or 5*s during the season (and no 3* FBs, Ps, or Ks).

                    I can only offer schollies to enough guys to give me 70. I can't offer another scholly until I lose someone to another school or I drop the offered player from my board.

                    EDITS:
                    I note all QBs AWR @ the beginning of the season. Then, at the end of the season I remove half of the AWR they gained during the year (because user players gain WAY more AWR than CPU players).

                    At the beginning of every season I edit the AWRs for all players that are > 70 down to 70.

                    I also edit the injury ratings down for all incoming FR. This doesn't change their OVR much (except for OL guys who get -70 INJ) but it does a little.

                    The biggest difference though is the recruiting tree restrictions I've imposed. With them I don't need to limit how many 5* or 4*s I can sign and I still don't have overpowering recruiting classes.

                    Well, I've made a huge mistake. I'm questioning my 8-season old Dynasty, because I think I forgot to change it and it's on Normal Progression. Which is not cool at all. I studied different techniques for recruiting restrictions, and apparently, should have asked you.

                    There's ZERO way to change the coach progression in an existing Dynasty, right? Even if I create a new coach.

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                    • jello1717
                      All Star
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 5721

                      #11
                      Re: Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

                      Originally posted by martywebb
                      Well, I've made a huge mistake. I'm questioning my 8-season old Dynasty, because I think I forgot to change it and it's on Normal Progression. Which is not cool at all. I studied different techniques for recruiting restrictions, and apparently, should have asked you.

                      There's ZERO way to change the coach progression in an existing Dynasty, right? Even if I create a new coach.
                      Correct, you can't change it after you start.

                      What level is your 8 year old coach?
                      Favorite Teams:
                      College #1: Michigan Wolverines
                      College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
                      College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
                      NHL: Detroit Redwings

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                      • jello1717
                        All Star
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 5721

                        #12
                        Re: Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

                        Originally posted by martywebb
                        Well, I've made a huge mistake. I'm questioning my 8-season old Dynasty, because I think I forgot to change it and it's on Normal Progression. Which is not cool at all. I studied different techniques for recruiting restrictions, and apparently, should have asked you.

                        There's ZERO way to change the coach progression in an existing Dynasty, right? Even if I create a new coach.
                        FWIW, below shows the difference in coach XP needed to gain certain levels between normal speed and slowest. The numbers are how much XP is needed to gain the NEXT level, NOT how much was needed to gain that level from level 1 (IE. the 1st line is how much is needed to go from lvl 10 to lvl 11).

                        Code:
                        LVL	NORMAL	SLOWEST
                        10	3360	12810
                        20	6560	25010
                        30	9760	37210
                        So, it takes quite a bit more XP for a coach on slowest to go from lvl 10 to 11 than it does for a coach on normal to go from lvl 30 to 31. It's linear so it takes roughly 4 times (or precisely 3.8125 times) longer to level on slowest than it does on normal.

                        I can't imagine how little it would take to level on fast or fastest.
                        Last edited by jello1717; 03-05-2015, 08:51 PM.
                        Favorite Teams:
                        College #1: Michigan Wolverines
                        College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
                        College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
                        NHL: Detroit Redwings

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                        • StoneCalf
                          Data Logger
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 569

                          #13
                          Re: Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

                          You could consider resetting your skill tree points in the off-season, then only allocating 1 skill point per number of dynasty years. This would be a way to kind of simulate "slowest" progression without having to restart.

                          For another reference, I'm on slowest, and I'm at HC level 35 after 27 dynasty years. Not exactly one level per year, but roughly close enough.

                          Originally posted by martywebb
                          Well, I've made a huge mistake. I'm questioning my 8-season old Dynasty, because I think I forgot to change it and it's on Normal Progression. Which is not cool at all. I studied different techniques for recruiting restrictions, and apparently, should have asked you.

                          There's ZERO way to change the coach progression in an existing Dynasty, right? Even if I create a new coach.
                          NCAA FB 2003 - 2014 Dynasties
                          All time record: 1511-429
                          145 dynasty seasons, no simming
                          18 time National Champions
                          53 Conference Championships
                          NCAA 14: 614-182

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                          • jello1717
                            All Star
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 5721

                            #14
                            Re: Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

                            Originally posted by StoneCalf
                            You could consider resetting your skill tree points in the off-season, then only allocating 1 skill point per number of dynasty years. This would be a way to kind of simulate "slowest" progression without having to restart.

                            For another reference, I'm on slowest, and I'm at HC level 35 after 27 dynasty years. Not exactly one level per year, but roughly close enough.
                            This is a good idea, especially since you're 8 years in Marty. I already do this with my coordinators. I only allow them to spend 2/3 points in any given skill unless it's necessary to get to tier 3 (I don't spend any on the top tier). My last OC was maxed out @ lvl 27, but instead of spending his points I just had 7 unused points for a couple of years.
                            Favorite Teams:
                            College #1: Michigan Wolverines
                            College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
                            College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
                            NHL: Detroit Redwings

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                            • martywebb
                              Banned
                              • May 2012
                              • 188

                              #15
                              Re: Just saw something REALLY awesome in dynasty!

                              Y'all just saved my ***.

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