Lamarcus Aldridge Form In The Park Fix...

[24ct]

Bruh...I just had to make this topic because there's not a day I play this game where I don't run into at least 5 guys who use this form because it's 'glitched' or whatever. By glitched I mean it's easier to get a 'green release' apparently. This isn't the only form but it's come to my conclusion it's the most consistently used form around. I mean I understand wanting to win but it's gotten to the point where players have all the same moves and I don't think that's what 2k intended. For example EVERY player has the 1 step back dribble that doesn't require you to pick up the ball after. When I say every, I mean EVERY except for the guys I play with. They don't have it, but I do lol.

Now I did get it because you don't have to pick up your dribble and I found that out myself, but what I didn't expect was a youtube video telling players that and now EVERY park player has it. It's the same hesitation package for every player and it's actually annoying.

I just wanted to make a statement in regards to earning shooting forms and dribble/dunk packages next year to see if anybody agrees.

Now, my idea is that in order to be able to use a players form, the user would have to either somehow acquire it through games played. This would require what MMORPGs call RNG. For example, for every game you play you have the chance to earn a certain dunk package or dribble animation in order to build your character. This would in turn add massive replay value (depending on how many packages they add, if any) and also not allow everybody to play the exact same way.

Another example would be I'm playing and in order to unlock a certain dribble package my ball handling/playmaker would need to be a certain level. So, in order for me to unlock a stepback dribble where I don't pick up the ball, I would have to have a playmaker level of 18-20...The higher the level the more animations I have a change to unlock game after game.

The same goes for shooting forms. In order to unlock a form of a good shooter that gets 'green releases' (if they still have the shot meter) I would need to have be Jumpshooter Level 18-20. That way players wouldn't be able to exploit forms that get greens even with a player that can't shoot. If I'm Level 20 shooting that unlocks the change for me to earn forms of guys who can shoot IE Ray Allen, Kyle Korver, KD (insert glitched forms)

By earn I mean win as rewards AFTER I win the game. If I lose there should be other smaller things like gear, but the real prizes come from winning. So just incase you're not good you can still look cool lol. If I lose I should earn a hat, a tattoo or maybe even some minor park emotes etc.

Everything is just available from the start no matter what. It would be cool to get rewards after playing. And if you go on a streak you should be able to win multiple things the more you win. Like after 10 games won it should unlock a shoe, a shirt, a tattoo and an accessory. Just for an example. But the more I win, the more shoes in different colors, clothes, better animations, better tattoos etc.

But have different set of items for winners and losers. Like if I play a Legend 3 and win the prize bucket should be better gear. If I play a rookie 1 the prize bucket should be something like a headband or etc. The tattoos for losing should be different but still cool tattoos, but it creates way more diversity then a guy asking "What tattoo you got" then going to add them the same way because yours looks like a sleeve. Its called myPark not ourPark lol

The ability to just buy everything with purchased VC ruins the replay value and it makes everybody look and play the same. It's like it doesn't matter if you win, as long as you play you can rank up and get VC to buy the cool stuff. That's all fine, but the idea of being able to play to earn an opportunity to buy things would mean more competition and diversity online.

What do you guys think??

[YungGun]

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Yeah, LA's form is cheesy as hell. Waaaay too many people use it and play the same way in general. All I can say is D up, and play better basketball.

[HowDareI]

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Back in 2K10, 11, you actually did unlock moves by upgrading your skills. Like once you got to a 90 in ballhandling you could do signature dribbles from guys like AI, Rafer Alston, D Wade, etc.

Once they added the right stick dribbling they took away the hundreds of different crosses, hesis, in and outs, stepbacks, etc. There used to be like 10, 20 different styles you could pick for each move you can think of.
Now they have in and outs, crosses, and stuff all in one package. Like I'd love to have the shamgod mixed with idk let's say cross 3 but you can't anymore.

Again, it all comes back to VC. Is 2K willing to sacrifice VC sales to make the game better? Harder? More rewarding? Probably not.

You know how much better this game would be if you actually had to work for your stats and signature styles? You could literally have control of MY Player.

But because these animations are so whack, and on ball D is still slow compared to offense..you get these people with the same cheesy moves.
Behind the backs that throw you past people, crossovers that give you speed boosts in another direction, stepbacks that put you 10 feet back.
And on D? No chance to stop it..because only offense gets the tools because that's the thing these kids love.

[24ct]

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Well when I said unlock I meant to unlock them to BUY them with VC. Clearly it's not going anywhere cuz we keep buying it and the game so that's not gonna stop them from making it part of the game. What I was saying is once you unlock it thru playing, then it would cost a certain amount of VC. The same way clothes and stuff cost now, only instead of them just being there from the start, we can unlock them for purchase.

And to the guy who said D up and play better basketball lol dude I'm a Legend 2 so winning isn't my problem. It's the lack of diversity in playing the park. I always run into guys who dribble cheese and have that form and I win. The other day a guy QUIT because he wasn't making those shots. Probably was a kid, but at any rate losing isn't the issue. It's ruining the experience for a lot of players when one guy just wants to dribble the shot clock all the way down and jack up a contested 3.

[HowDareI]

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Well when I said unlock I meant to unlock them to BUY them with VC. Clearly it's not going anywhere cuz we keep buying it and the game so that's not gonna stop them from making it part of the game. What I was saying is once you unlock it thru playing, then it would cost a certain amount of VC. The same way clothes and stuff cost now, only instead of them just being there from the start, we can unlock them for purchase.

And to the guy who said D up and play better basketball lol dude I'm a Legend 2 so winning isn't my problem. It's the lack of diversity in playing the park. I always run into guys who dribble cheese and have that form and I win. The other day a guy QUIT because he wasn't making those shots. Probably was a kid, but at any rate losing isn't the issue. It's ruining the experience for a lot of players when one guy just wants to dribble the shot clock all the way down and jack up a contested 3.

Well either way they should add it. And add back all the extra crossovers and stuff from 2K11...

Also should lock ones for centers and forwards, so we don't have 7 footers breaking ankles.

VC's probably not gonna change but they can at least make it where we have to work harder to get better..just don't make it so easy to buy a guy right off the bat and have them able to compete just cuz they know the cheese moves.

[Yesh2kdone]

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Well either way they should add it. And add back all the extra crossovers and stuff from 2K11...

Also should lock ones for centers and forwards, so we don't have 7 footers breaking ankles.

VC's probably not gonna change but they can at least make it where we have to work harder to get better..just don't make it so easy to buy a guy right off the bat and have them able to compete just cuz they know the cheese moves.

This comment is the community one that does my head in the most. I've never seen one person moan about little guards with tenacious rebounder, blocking shots like the dream. Not one.

Yet tall players that have dribbling abilities are seen as causing the destruction of the game. Until this game can actually replicate positions, height, weight, and strength, then all bigs will be good for, if the youtubers/community get their way, is collecting rebounds and being dunked on.

"handles like Kyrie" Tired old community cliche
"Blocks like the dream" Silence.

[HowDareI]

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This comment is the community one that does my head in the most. I've never seen one person moan about little guards with tenacious rebounder, blocking shots like the dream. Not one.

Yet tall players that have dribbling abilities are seen as causing the destruction of the game. Until this game can actually replicate positions, height, weight, and strength, then all bigs will be good for, if the youtubers/community get their way, is collecting rebounds and being dunked on.

"handles like Kyrie" Tired old community cliche
"Blocks like the dream" Silence.

Name one 7 footer in the NBA that you see breaking down guards, driving to the the rim, and finishing with acrobatic layups....

And I don't mean KD, he's 6'10. Not Blake Griffin he's 6'8 maybe. Cousins and Davis? They still don't get isos at the 3 point line.

John Wall, Eric Bledsoe, Damien Lillard, Rajon Rondo, Tony Wroten, Russell Westbrook, Reggie Jackson..I can keep going...?
I've seen all them guys block the ish outta people on chasedowns, which is what I assume you mean. These are all guys 5'11 to 6'4, guards, that are freak athletes.

I think the first priority in our minds is having better balance. So no, 7'3 guys aren't bringing the ball up hitting stepback 3s.
No one complains about guards getting 5 blocks because unless you're taking bad shots they aren't getting them blocks.

If you watch basketball you'd realize big men in the NBA are defensive anchors, and rebounders. There's only 3 or 4 guys in the whole league to consistently get you near 20 and 10 at the center position and none of them are 7'3 ballhandlers with a 3 point shot.

I never said big men should be subjected to guards posterizing them over and over, in fact if you go in other posts I always talk about stuff like that.

But if 2K can't balance how all players play I think the number one priority is fixing how godlike 7 footers and above dominate.

[24ct]

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This comment is the community one that does my head in the most. I've never seen one person moan about little guards with tenacious rebounder, blocking shots like the dream. Not one.

Yet tall players that have dribbling abilities are seen as causing the destruction of the game. Until this game can actually replicate positions, height, weight, and strength, then all bigs will be good for, if the youtubers/community get their way, is collecting rebounds and being dunked on.

"handles like Kyrie" Tired old community cliche
"Blocks like the dream" Silence.

Bruh some guards are tenacious rebounders what are you talking about bro?

Also some guards average 1 block per game which is more than some centers. But have you ever in your life seen a center do the shamgod in an nba game? No....

Yes Centers can handle the ball and have crossovers but what he's saying is they don't dribble like guards so they shouldn't have the same dribble moves available. Nobody said they shouldn't be able to crossover. They just shouldn't have the same moves as guards.

I can't even believe you just said that. Some guards avg 6/7 boards a game which is more than some starting bigs in the NBA so you're wrong. And not to mention a guard with tenacious on this game won't outrebound a taller player without it so again you're wrong.

I have a SF with Tenacious and he doesn't get boards over PFs or Centers with it. And when have you ever seen a guard block a big man 'like the dream' ? Probably never or if you have it was from behind which again happens a lot actually.

But like I said there are centers and PFs that CAN dribble and push the ball IE Bogut, Cousins, Tim Duncan, Aldridge etc...but they don't dribble like Kyrie or CP or any guard, so they should have a totally different set of dribble moves. The wings and bigs move exactly the same which is in large part due to animations being available for everyone regardless of position and that is a huge problem. You're actually the first and only guy I've seen complain about guards blocking bigmen.

[10]

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This comment is the community one that does my head in the most. I've never seen one person moan about little guards with tenacious rebounder, blocking shots like the dream. Not one.

Yet tall players that have dribbling abilities are seen as causing the destruction of the game. Until this game can actually replicate positions, height, weight, and strength, then all bigs will be good for, if the youtubers/community get their way, is collecting rebounds and being dunked on.

"handles like Kyrie" Tired old community cliche
"Blocks like the dream" Silence.

This has more to do with people not understanding how to play as a big and other players not properly utilizing a big on their team. If you have teammates that know how to play basketball it's fairly easy to be an effective pf or c that doesn't handle the ball or use constant iso's or 3's. Tall players that handle aren't the destruction of park but it's top 5. Also as someone else said guards get blocks all the time. Eric Bledsoe, John Wall, Dwyane Wade etc. are all similar to the athletic guards everyone uses in park.

[Yesh2kdone]

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Bruh some guards are tenacious rebounders what are you talking about bro?

Also some guards average 1 block per game which is more than some centers. But have you ever in your life seen a center do the shamgod in an nba game? No....

Yes Centers can handle the ball and have crossovers but what he's saying is they don't dribble like guards so they shouldn't have the same dribble moves available. Nobody said they shouldn't be able to crossover. They just shouldn't have the same moves as guards.

I can't even believe you just said that. Some guards avg 6/7 boards a game which is more than some starting bigs in the NBA so you're wrong. And not to mention a guard with tenacious on this game won't outrebound a taller player without it so again you're wrong.

I have a SF with Tenacious and he doesn't get boards over PFs or Centers with it. And when have you ever seen a guard block a big man 'like the dream' ? Probably never or if you have it was from behind which again happens a lot actually.

But like I said there are centers and PFs that CAN dribble and push the ball IE Bogut, Cousins, Tim Duncan, Aldridge etc...but they don't dribble like Kyrie or CP or any guard, so they should have a totally different set of dribble moves. The wings and bigs move exactly the same which is in large part due to animations being available for everyone regardless of position and that is a huge problem. You're actually the first and only guy I've seen complain about guards blocking bigmen.

I have 3 careers in MC - a 7"3 center, a 6"9 SF, and a 6"2 PG. My PG averages a triple double, and gets close to the top of the rebounding charts, and averages 3.4 blocks per game. I could easily get closer to the rebounding winner, but I'm often looking to get moving on the fast break.

So that's what I'm talking about - he has tenacious rebounder, chasedown, eraser, and If I'd known about the weight/bruiser system in place, he'd have that too. That's a point guard. 6ft2. I'm not complaining about guards blocking big men, you've made that up yourself.

That's my issue with people who complain about big men who can dribble, because I have one of those, and he doesn't dribble anywhere near as good as my PG, and he's a lot easier to rip as well.

[Yesh2kdone]

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This has more to do with people not understanding how to play as a big and other players not properly utilizing a big on their team. If you have teammates that know how to play basketball it's fairly easy to be an effective pf or c that doesn't handle the ball or use constant iso's or 3's. Tall players that handle aren't the destruction of park but it's top 5. Also as someone else said guards get blocks all the time. Eric Bledsoe, John Wall, Dwyane Wade etc. are all similar to the athletic guards everyone uses in park.

OK, so in 3v3 in the park, take all the abilities you want away from the big men, and what is his role? I'm not talking about rec, but what would you expect that big to do?

In the park, my big gets his dunks/attacking the rim blocked far more oftne than my other careers, because of the speed. The game needs to address weight and strength as a priority. If it does that, so big men are heavily weighted for defence, but punished on offence, then I'd be happy with that, but that's not what people are calling for.

I started my center career because I wanted to be the absolute defensive behemoth, but the game doesn't work like that.

[10]

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OK, so in 3v3 in the park, take all the abilities you want away from the big men, and what is his role? I'm not talking about rec, but what would you expect that big to do?

In the park, my big gets his dunks/attacking the rim blocked far more oftne than my other careers, because of the speed. The game needs to address weight and strength as a priority. If it does that, so big men are heavily weighted for defence, but punished on offence, then I'd be happy with that, but that's not what people are calling for.

I started my center career because I wanted to be the absolute defensive behemoth, but the game doesn't work like that.

I definitely don't disagree with any of this, I've noticed all of these things too. At this point I've just accepted that when I use my big at the park I should try to score less and focus on grabbing boards, challenging shots and passing. Most of my points come off offensive rebounds at this point. I've had a ton of games where I might score 1-2 points and take 2-3 shots but grab 7-10 rebounds and get 3-5 assists.

If you get 2 teammates that know what they're doing and are willing to move the ball and run screens then you can just attack the rim with pnr's and get a lot of easy buckets. Unfortunately this doesn't happen very often.

[24ct]

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I've never seen a big get blocked in the park like you're describing. Ever. If you run the floor you can catch lobs and you're not out in the park to cross over you're there to get rebounds and hold down the paint if you can't shoot. If you want to score so bad upgrade your bigs shooting and not his dunking because obviously you're not going to dunk threw ppl.

Bottom line it's not even about scoring so I don't understand what you're asking. If you can get 10 boards and pass it back out for 3-5 assists thats an automatic A+ ... Not to mention there are some games when I play with my PG that I don't even score. I'd rather have 10 dimes because after 5 I have an A+ and I'm rhythym and anything else is extra.

And nobody said take all abilites away. Like I said...bigs crossover but not like guards. The animation should be different not the skill set so you're completely misunderstanding the point bruh.

And if you're getting blocked with a center or big or whatever then the problem is play style dog. You can't blame speed if you're trying to dunk over 3 guys and you can't blame speed if you're just not good with a center. I've seriously never seen a guard block a center in the park unless he was forcing a layup over a guy or did a cockback dunk. It seems as if you're more concerned with scoring and doing fancy stuff which if that's the case make a PF because you have that option.

And lastly its about getting the WIN so if you have a center and you're trying to score all the points or get enough to feel good you must not be trying to win. Too many times have I seen a center get the offensive rebound because he was taller only to kick it out for a 2 so maybe you should focus on winning. I really don't understand what you mean by what is a center supposed to do. If you want a bluebrint, catch lobs, get rebounds, block players attacking the rim and kick it out the shooters if you have any. If your big can shoot by all means shoot but you just said you want to be a defensive big and the park isn't about defense but if you take him to the rec he will prevent easy buckets.

That's why there's a rec center and that's why it plays a little slower. I know plenty of guys who are happy grabbing 20 boards with 5 blocks and 5 assists. Out of 20 boards you should have at least 5 putbacks and boom you have another A+ and hopefully a win.

[Ownal0t]

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Wait wait wait. Did someone just really complain about a NORMAL SIZED GUARD , doing something that is completely possible? While trying to defend the 7FTS WHO CAN ROLL ON THE GROUND with the ball and not lose it?

[24ct]

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Wait wait wait. Did someone just really complain about a NORMAL SIZED GUARD , doing something that is completely possible? While trying to defend the 7FTS WHO CAN ROLL ON THE GROUND with the ball and not lose it?

Lol exactly bro I'm done.

Like there are guards who chase down shots. There are guards who grab rebounds at a high rate per 48 mins. There are guards who block other guards consistently so what are you even saying?

Fact is there are NO centers who bring the ball up the court to start an offensive set and cross teams overs. Brining up your guards myCareer stats is completely irrelevant to this post about myPark mode. This thread isn't about playing against the computer.

What you're complaining about happens in the NBA. Westbrook Avged 7 Rebounds a game. He has multiple games of crazy rebound numbers. Danny Green Avgs 1 block a game. Harden and Klay avged just under 1 block. There was a season wade avged almost 2 blocks a game...

There are no centers in the top pick & roll usage or anything.