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  • JoshC1977
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    • Dec 2010
    • 11564

    #1

    JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

    Version 1 - Work In Progress
    Howdy all....many of you may be aware of my work on the NCAA community sliders with Matt10 and on my M15 Next Gen sliders. Following our latest round of changes to the NCAA slider set and due to my continued frustrations with M15 Current Gen, I decided to come back to this game.

    The following set is based on the work we have done for the last couple of years on NCAA14. Those of you familiar with what we have on that set currently will recognize that these do not match the current set exactly - reason, the line play was not ratings-based. My approach to sliders is very simple, I look at animations and reactions. If they look realistic, the gameplay usually follows.

    Before I post the sliders I want to make a couple of points:
    • Penalty sliders affect gameplay...period....the settings are designed to provide the best gameplay possible.
    • These are designed for sim gamers - if you are a cheesy nano-blitzer that spams "money plays", don't even bother.
    • The special teams sliders may look funky, but if this game behaves the same as NCAA14 (as I strongly believe it does), they WILL impact other elements of gameplay. I suggest leaving them as I outline below.

    I strongly recommend setting your main menu settings to be exactly the same as your CFM settings. For the sliders, use the import button (triangle on PS3) to import the sliders from the main menu. This may not matter on this game, but it does on Next Gen and I am taking no chances

    Speed: Normal
    Gameplay: All Pro or All Madden
    qtr length: 13min
    accel clock: 18 sec
    injuries: To be Determined
    fatigue: To be Determined
    speed threshold: 1
    ball hawk: off
    strafe assist: off
    heat seeker assist: off
    switch assist: off
    Defensive Graphics: off, user preference
    Camera: Standard, user preference

    HUM / CPU

    QBA 5 / 5
    PBK 30 / 50
    CTH 45 / 45
    RBK 5 / 35
    FUM 40 / 40
    PRC 5 / 5
    INT 35 / 30
    PCV 30 / 30
    TAK 20 / 25

    Special Teams (same for both)
    FG Power – 50
    FG Acc - 30
    Punt Power - 50
    Punt Acc - 70
    KO Power - 45

    Penalties
    Offside: 80
    False Start:80
    Holding: 65
    Facemask: 50
    DPI: 98
    OPI: 99
    PCI: 40
    Clipping: 50
    int grounding: (All Madden: 50) (All Pro: 81)
    roughing the passer:50
    roughing the kicker: 35



    Tasks left to do:
    • Nail down autosubs and injury/fatigue sliders. If anyone playing this game has suggestions, please post in the thread.
    • Play some games. It sounds a bit silly, but I have not dove into a ton of games yet. I imported the NCAA set, made some modifications based on what I saw in excerpts of a few games and here we are. These need a definite "shakedown".

    Enjoy
    Last edited by JoshC1977; 06-14-2015, 06:29 PM.
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  • Teleo
    MVP
    • Nov 2013
    • 2302

    #2
    Re: JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

    Hey Josh...I know that these are for the old gen, but have you had a chance to test these on next Gen? I know you have a set there that has about 2 million posts and I use that for my coach mode ccm, but I was just curious. Thanks for all you do!

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    • mkharsh33
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      • Nov 2006
      • 12785

      #3
      Re: JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

      I purchased M15 recently - I will definitely be plugging these in and looking forward to any more info you provide. Thanks!
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      • JG80
        MVP
        • Dec 2013
        • 1820

        #4
        JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

        Do you know if the intro/main menu/cfm difficulty settings act in the same manner as its Next-gen counterpart.
        Geaux Tigahs

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        • JoshC1977
          All Star
          • Dec 2010
          • 11564

          #5
          Re: JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

          Originally posted by Teleo
          Hey Josh...I know that these are for the old gen, but have you had a chance to test these on next Gen? I know you have a set there that has about 2 million posts and I use that for my coach mode ccm, but I was just curious. Thanks for all you do!
          I have not Teleo...for current gen, I'd probably recommend trying IG at 50.

          Originally posted by JG80
          Do you know if the intro/main menu/cfm difficulty settings act in the same manner as its Next-gen counterpart.
          A) no intro on this version (YAY!!)
          B) I have no idea if main menu and CFM have to be synchronized. I'm recommending that people do so...
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          • JoshC1977
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            • Dec 2010
            • 11564

            #6
            Re: JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

            OK....I made a huge mistake....but glad I caught it now. Apparently, on this game, the pass reaction slider works the same as the run defense slider does on NCAA14 (it works oppositely on Next Gen).

            I am updating the OP with the current NCAA settings (the only difference will be the TAK slider as I am going with 25 for both to give more of an NFL-feel).
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            • JG80
              MVP
              • Dec 2013
              • 1820

              #7
              Re: JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

              Originally posted by JoshC1977
              OK....I made a huge mistake....but glad I caught it now. Apparently, on this game, the pass reaction slider works the same as the run defense slider does on NCAA14 (it works oppositely on Next Gen).

              I am updating the OP with the current NCAA settings (the only difference will be the TAK slider as I am going with 25 for both to give more of an NFL-feel).

              So this game is basically NCAA 14 with nfl teams?
              Geaux Tigahs

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              • JoshC1977
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                • Dec 2010
                • 11564

                #8
                Re: JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

                Originally posted by JG80
                So this game is basically NCAA 14 with nfl teams?
                Sorta....however, I'm going to need to tone down the CPU offense if it is going to more properly reflect NFL numbers - the more I dove into it, I have seen that the line blocking dynamics are quite different and unfortunately, the pass defense isn't nearly as good as it is on NCAA...

                I'll probably be making some further adjustments as the slider dynamics are a tad different - but feel free to give these a whirl and let me know your thoughts.
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                • JoshC1977
                  All Star
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 11564

                  #9
                  Re: JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

                  I've been left with one unmistakable conclusion about this game - the CPU boost is unrealistically overpowering on All Madden. No matter what combination of sliders are used, the CPU line just holds its own and just creates a stationary front....that is unacceptable.

                  I am therefore going with All Pro. I still think we can get a good challenge, without compromising ratings. I've made a couple of other adjustments. Please refer to the OP.
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                  • T1TRAPTOR
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 636

                    #10
                    Re: JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

                    I'll have to check these out!

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                    • JoshC1977
                      All Star
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 11564

                      #11
                      Re: JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

                      Originally posted by T1TRAPTOR
                      I'll have to check these out!
                      Please do....I can't get past my NCAA addiction or I would be playing this more...
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                      • JoshC1977
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 11564

                        #12
                        Re: JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

                        One final set of changes (to RTP, IG, KRI, and CPU PBK) to coax a bit more of a vertical game by the CPU, which should hopefully cut down on completion percentages a bit.
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                        • JG80
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                          • Dec 2013
                          • 1820

                          #13
                          Re: JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

                          In my experience, All-Pro has been a bit too easy. Are you sure this will put up a challenge?
                          Geaux Tigahs

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                          • T1TRAPTOR
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 636

                            #14
                            Re: JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

                            Originally posted by JoshC1977
                            Please do....I can't get past my NCAA addiction or I would be playing this more...
                            Going to play a game in my CFM here in a minute!

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                            • JoshC1977
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 11564

                              #15
                              Re: JoshC1977's M15 Old Gen Sliders

                              Originally posted by JG80
                              In my experience, All-Pro has been a bit too easy. Are you sure this will put up a challenge?
                              Truthfully....I have no idea how well it will hold-up long-term. I normally shy away from All Pro for the same reason you brought up. My issue is that CPU blocking was overpowered on All Madden with virtually any slider combination (i.e. when guys like Suh are just held in-place by a mid-70s lineman, ratings are not properly playing out and that is unacceptable to me).

                              Now I have seen the CPU execute 16 play drives on my defense (and actually score the TD) and I have seen them execute some big plays. I'm going to play some more and see what I see....

                              Hoping others provide some feedback from the games that they play....
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