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  • I_am_legend417
    Rookie
    • Sep 2015
    • 90

    #1

    Point of Making an SG

    I'm curious what is the point of making an SG?

    I have an IG that I've been putting shots from the game in and I didn't have any high school photos so I just remade my SG as a same height PG and am starting to wonder why make a SG in the first place.

    My SG is balanced and max speed is 78, you can't call plays (unless you max out shooting and playmaking) and essentially he will never be as good as my PG can be.


    My PG can run the offense and defense out of the gate, no need to max playmaking or shooting. His max speed is 81, maybe more and it's on the outside option.

    Curious because it seems rebounding doesn't need to be upgraded (though I do) and you dont have to max shooting or playmaking if you don't want to (which I don't want to)

    Is post game substantially weaker?, defense (wouldn't think so), dunking ( which I don't really care about).

    For me my essentials are great passer ball handler, great rebounder for position, great mid range, decent from 3, and a great defender. Dunking is cool, not a necessity, I prefer a made layup to a missed dunk attempt any day of the week.

    Am I picking the wrong position?

    And if you are put in at point as a SG, shouldn't you automatically get on court coach?
  • Thetruth9012
    MVP
    • Oct 2013
    • 1287

    #2
    Re: Point of Making an SG

    I did the same PG 6,6 200lbs because of that
    2k18 fixes

    Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

    Late contest on laups matter too much.

    Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

    Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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    • MrScum
      Banned
      • Dec 2014
      • 142

      #3
      Re: Point of Making an SG

      Max speed is only 78? 2k wants us to be average as hell this year.

      I understand putting caps on certain attributes but some of these cap restrictions are too strict.

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      • richie777
        Rookie
        • Nov 2013
        • 10

        #4
        Re: Point of Making an SG

        Yeah they are. They're basically saying if you're tall you cant dribble or run. Its best to either be a center or pg.

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        • Erithtotl
          Pro
          • Aug 2002
          • 679

          #5
          Re: Point of Making an SG

          Agreed, if you make a SG, the only way you'll have real success is play him like a PG. The AI won't give you the ball enough off of plays, you'll have to end up calling for the ball and running P&Rs with him forever. I started with a SG and realized he was so ineffective I switched to a stretch 5, who can still rebound and block like a monster despite putting nearly no points into either category.

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          • I_am_legend417
            Rookie
            • Sep 2015
            • 90

            #6
            Re: Point of Making an SG

            Originally posted by MrScum
            Max speed is only 78? 2k wants us to be average as hell this year.

            I understand putting caps on certain attributes but some of these cap restrictions are too strict.
            Yeah, looking at it makes me wonder why would anyone make a SG, they will play you at the 2 if you play like a 2 anyway. You get better stats even the 3pt shooting is 1pt better. Make an outside PG over a shooting guard.

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            • iTofu
              Rookie
              • Aug 2009
              • 293

              #7
              Re: Point of Making an SG

              I've come to the same conclusion regarding SG as the OP.

              If you want to make a 6'5" or 6'6" SG with some playmaking ability, then skills I cared about (athleticism, shooting, defense) are generally even or slightly better as a 6'5" or 6'6" PG plus you get to call plays.

              Additionally, given that PG is a deeper position around the league it's possible to be shifted to SG at times.

              The only downside I can see is if you're strictly 3&D, then your playmaking will suffer to the point it seems silly to be PG.

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              • KingW
                Rookie
                • Sep 2015
                • 71

                #8
                Re: Point of Making an SG

                I didn't see one, so I just made a 6'5 balanced PG with the purpose of playing shooting guard for our squad in ProAM or in MyPark.

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                • ReRo
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 155

                  #9
                  Re: Point of Making an SG

                  Caps really are brutal this year and not well balanced at all.

                  I made a 6'5 SG (inside) and my cap for speed is 80. Since cap for 3pt is 73, that is not well balanced, especially since ball handling is capped at 75. To be a slashing SG with such a low outside shot (btw midrange is also at a ridiculously low cap at 75), I should be much more explosive and a better ball handler, since I must have the ball in my possession to be effective. Speed cap for an inside SG at 6'5 should be at around 88-90, with ball handling at 80-85. I am trying to emulate a player like Wade, but he was MUCH more explosive than 80 in his prime, not to mention his ball handling. These caps for ball handling and speed are understandable if your outside shot is 85+, not for an inside scorer.

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                  • Rockie_Fresh88
                    Lockdown Defender
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 9621

                    #10
                    Re: Point of Making an SG

                    Ppl asked me the same question because I made a PF and a SG.

                    PF instead of center because I rather play further out from the basket and I like having another defender behind me. I can play center too

                    SG because I want good shooting and playmaking but I prefer to play off ball . I don't like having the ball in my hands all the time or bringing the ball up every play
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                    • I_am_legend417
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 90

                      #11
                      Re: Point of Making an SG

                      Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                      Ppl asked me the same question because I made a PF and a SG.

                      PF instead of center because I rather play further out from the basket and I like having another defender behind me. I can play center too

                      SG because I want good shooting and playmaking but I prefer to play off ball . I don't like having the ball in my hands all the time or bringing the ball up every play
                      But you can choose to play off ball, especially if you play like a 2.

                      The shooting is better on a PG as well, look up the stats, a outside Pg at you height would be a better player plus have the ability to call plays and run the defense.

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                      • Rockie_Fresh88
                        Lockdown Defender
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 9621

                        #12
                        Re: Point of Making an SG

                        Originally posted by ReRo
                        Caps really are brutal this year and not well balanced at all.

                        I made a 6'5 SG (inside) and my cap for speed is 80. Since cap for 3pt is 73, that is not well balanced, especially since ball handling is capped at 75. To be a slashing SG with such a low outside shot (btw midrange is also at a ridiculously low cap at 75), I should be much more explosive and a better ball handler, since I must have the ball in my possession to be effective. Speed cap for an inside SG at 6'5 should be at around 88-90, with ball handling at 80-85. I am trying to emulate a player like Wade, but he was MUCH more explosive than 80 in his prime, not to mention his ball handling. These caps for ball handling and speed are understandable if your outside shot is 85+, not for an inside scorer.
                        Seems like you should've went balanced . You didn't mention was that inside gives you higher dunking and finishing . This is exactly why we had so many alike players last year even big men were fast and could dribble. Pick your strength and your weakness. BTW with the the "legends" scale toward ratings 75 mid and 80 speed is not bad especially for a primarily inside scorer. It's not like anybody will catch you. Most SFs will only go any where in the 70s. Most PFs 60s speed . Centers 50s. So what's the problem ?
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                        • Rockie_Fresh88
                          Lockdown Defender
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 9621

                          #13
                          Re: Point of Making an SG

                          Originally posted by I_am_legend417
                          But you can choose to play off ball, especially if you play like a 2.

                          The shooting is better on a PG as well, look up the stats, a outside Pg at you height would be a better player plus have the ability to call plays and run the defense.
                          I don't even need that for my squad at the pro am . I need a little more height but some playmaking ability . I need to defend . How tall are y'all making the PGs?
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                          • KDurant35
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 138

                            #14
                            Point of Making an SG

                            Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                            Seems like you should've went balanced . You didn't mention was that inside gives you higher dunking and finishing . This is exactly why we had so many alike players last year even big men were fast and could dribble. Pick your strength and your weakness. BTW with the the "legends" scale toward ratings 75 mid and 80 speed is not bad especially for a primarily inside scorer. It's not like anybody will catch you. Most SFs will only go any where in the 70s. Most PFs 60s speed . Centers 50s. So what's the problem ?

                            The problem is there shouldn't be a drop off between PG & SG where the only advantage an SG has at a comparable height is finishing/dunking.


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                            • Rockie_Fresh88
                              Lockdown Defender
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 9621

                              #15
                              Re: Point of Making an SG

                              Originally posted by KDurant35
                              The problem is there shouldn't be a drop off between PG & SG where the only advantage an SG has at a comparable height is finishing/dunking.


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                              That's a huge advantage . Remember when D wade started off as a point guard ?
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