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  • B-Lo-Z-Ro
    Rookie
    • Aug 2009
    • 114

    #1

    QB Regression?

    I Play as a QB "Player franchise mode" and noticed certain attributes dropping from the 90s to the mid to low 80s in 1-2 seasons rather quickly compared to M15 not noticing regression until my player has played maybe 6-8 seasons. First season passing over 5k yards and 30 touchdowns being 21 years old. By the end of the season I maybe had a total of 8k xp compared to having over 15k in M15... Im guessing they did an overhaul on regression & XP points?
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  • Helios12787
    MVP
    • Mar 2006
    • 1628

    #2
    Re: QB Regression?

    Yea the regression is kinda wonky (especially at certain positions such as qb).

    And the xp system has been made a lot harder than previous years.

    Just finished season 1 in my jags franchise and even with a 12 sack season, rookie of the year award, and all possible game prep xp loaded into rookie de fowler he only had around 13k xp on the season (got him to a 92 finesse move and 80 block shed though).

    I like the xp now. Base ratings and especially development trait is super important.

    I'm going to be starting a bears franchise (would stick with jags but that division is just always so weak especially in madden). I'm looking forward to having to rebuild almost an ENTIRE defense and in need of a qb/new franchise running back.

    All I have for that team is 2 young stud receivers and a very talented corner.

    And I know it'll take me at least 2 seasons of amazing drafting and free agency to even be competitive. Beats last year haha.

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    • ajra21
      MVP
      • Oct 2011
      • 2170

      #3
      Re: QB Regression?

      yeah, there are only two 90s rated QB in my game after three season (rodgers & luck). cam dropped form 93 to 80 in just two years.

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      • BanchamekGym
        Rookie
        • Aug 2014
        • 182

        #4
        Re: QB Regression?

        Kaepernick is my fantasy draft QB in franchise mode, terrible accuracy causes interceptions which drops accuracy which is impossible to upgrade because he gets no XP.


        Broke the record with 8 TDs passing in a game plus rushing yards and TDs, player of the week, not enough XP to raise his horrible accuracy the automatically drops a single point.

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        • ajra21
          MVP
          • Oct 2011
          • 2170

          #5
          Re: QB Regression?

          yep, my third year QB (with one SB win) has regressed across the board. the same goes for my LT. the OL in general has all seen a drop off.

          from what i can tell, simming games is where the drop off occurs. if you play the games, the decreases are minimal other than to the LT.

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          • MidMellow
            Rookie
            • Aug 2011
            • 59

            #6
            Re: QB Regression?

            Originally posted by B-Lo-Z-Ro
            I Play as a QB "Player franchise mode" and noticed certain attributes dropping from the 90s to the mid to low 80s in 1-2 seasons rather quickly compared to M15 not noticing regression until my player has played maybe 6-8 seasons. First season passing over 5k yards and 30 touchdowns being 21 years old. By the end of the season I maybe had a total of 8k xp compared to having over 15k in M15... Im guessing they did an overhaul on regression & XP points?
            Yeah, there are drop offs to a players ability because if you've ever used the EA DB Editor and opened up a roster save file before you load it into a CFM. You see there's an attribute field that's hidden from the game when loaded that has to do with players being in certain stages of their career. Those three stages are incline, plateau & decline. The player's age during his rookie year tells you pretty much how much time you have to develop him the best you can before he declines drastically. If you have a player that's at the middle or end of their career, it will be a little harder to develop them because they won't be receiving large amounts of XP even when they complete major task like breaking records or winning championships.

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            • Joel3232
              Rookie
              • Nov 2015
              • 33

              #7
              Re: QB Regression?

              So is there a solution to this problem? Would you not do franchise because of this?
              Last edited by Joel3232; 11-25-2015, 12:56 AM.

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              • ajra21
                MVP
                • Oct 2011
                • 2170

                #8
                Re: QB Regression?

                it has not affected my team's current QB so far. but it pulled kaepernick down year after year.

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                • BanchamekGym
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 182

                  #9
                  Re: QB Regression?

                  Finished my 1st season of franchise mode playing all games (no simming except preseason) went undefeated won the Superbowl, pretty much everygame Kaeps deep accuracy would drop from interceptions and would it take all XP gained to restore it one point, basically all xp from the season went to just maintaining terrible deep accuracy.


                  At the end of the year it dropped 10 whole deep accuracy at once from all the picks, and it took all the season end and mvp xp to try to bring it back up.


                  In the draft after the season there are 2 mobile QBs (85 and 86 speed) but they aren't as good as keep beyond being young and deep accuracy better on some (weaker arm) deciding if I will go after one of them or stick with him another season

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                  • ajra21
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 2170

                    #10
                    Re: QB Regression?

                    One could argue, Kaep accuracy dropping over the years is a sign of realism.

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                    • Joel3232
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 33

                      #11
                      Re: QB Regression?

                      Originally posted by ajra21
                      One could argue, Kaep accuracy dropping over the years is a sign of realism.
                      True. But is it happening to every quarterback?

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                      • ajra21
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 2170

                        #12
                        Re: QB Regression?

                        Originally posted by Joel3232
                        True. But is it happening to every quarterback?
                        i know. it sucks. if i were to start a new CFM, i'd go through all the good (and better QB) and max them out prior to starting. aaron rodgers stayed good until he retired at age 40 but most guys around from real life fell away. russell wilson has stayed good too. big ben retired at age 39 with an OVR of 84.

                        from what i can tell, the QB must match the scheme & type of the team he plays for in order to not see the fall off. that or they must be the very best i.e. rodgers.

                        i think the latest patch might have changed something. i'm seeing drafted QB developing relatively well. right now, 8 years in, rodgers is still the best with wilson at 93. my QB is 90 OVR. dallas' is 88. the pats have a QB at 86. eagles have a 91 QB. the steelers have a newly drafted QB at 77 who got up to 82 after one year as he was in the perfect scheme/type match plus being a SS.

                        equally, it seems to me, the LT position is doing better.

                        i'm only playing as the niners but just before FA, i take control of the seahawks, cowboys, packers, eagles, packers, pats & steelers. i re-sign the right players for them and them pick up the right FA too. then i scout/pick out four to five players from the draft that fit them well. that might be a position of current need; a position that will need replacing very soon or a SS that fits their scheme. sometimes, depending on the draft class, i'll not control one of these teams and pick another. for instance, the bills run a hybrid D so when there was one draft with a lot of really good matching talent, i drafted for them to ensure it wasn't wasted.

                        this way, i have found good players developing more consistently as they're playing for the right teams. when rodgers retires, i'll consider getting them another good QB or start helping another team. the cards and rams suck so i might help them and make a really tough NFCW.
                        Last edited by ajra21; 12-08-2015, 01:56 PM.

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                        • Joel3232
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 33

                          #13
                          Re: QB Regression?

                          Is this also a big problem when you become a player?

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                          • ajra21
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 2170

                            #14
                            Re: QB Regression?

                            no idea. haven't been a player since M12.

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