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  • Jhawkfootball06
    Pro
    • Jul 2009
    • 559

    #1

    There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

    Pro-Am is a lot of fun, especially if you are the owner. But if you are not the owner of your Pro-Am team what is the incentive for playing? Meaning your friend owns the team and you just play with him.

    You don't feel tied to that team at all. You can't even view your team's record. Even when a Pro-Am game is loading, the record will show correctly for the owner, but for the other users on that team it is bugged and shows 0-0.

    I mean if you don't get Rep for Pro-Am games, and don't even get VC for Arena games, and you can't even see the record of the Pro-Am team you're playing with (for non-owners), what's the point?
  • bo.jangles344
    Banned
    • Jun 2013
    • 1007

    #2
    Re: There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

    Cool idea, great for marketing. Sold me on this game because of it. But now a month into this game and for it being broken for 2 weeks and then basically finding out there's no reason to play this mode at all since the leader boards don't even work properly i think this has to be one of the worst scams 2k has ever pulled. I mean, this mode is worthless as is and since hardly anyone even finishes the game you're basically running against computers. Might as well play career (yawn).

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    • Hadlowe
      Rookie
      • Aug 2013
      • 284

      #3
      Re: There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

      Originally posted by Jhawkfootball06
      Pro-Am is a lot of fun, especially if you are the owner. But if you are not the owner of your Pro-Am team what is the incentive for playing? Meaning your friend owns the team and you just play with him.

      You don't feel tied to that team at all. You can't even view your team's record. Even when a Pro-Am game is loading, the record will show correctly for the owner, but for the other users on that team it is bugged and shows 0-0.

      I mean if you don't get Rep for Pro-Am games, and don't even get VC for Arena games, and you can't even see the record of the Pro-Am team you're playing with (for non-owners), what's the point?
      Because it's your player without the arcadey Park feel? Because the game is supposed to be fun?

      I agree that with the game economy, there needs to be some sort of "progression" whether that is VC or rep or record or something, but I look at it as pickup games with friends. I don't get anything from those other than bruises in real life, but they're lots of fun.

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      • XxSpiritHunterX
        Pro
        • Mar 2013
        • 533

        #4
        Re: There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

        Originally posted by Hadlowe
        Because it's your player without the arcadey Park feel? Because the game is supposed to be fun?



        I agree that with the game economy, there needs to be some sort of "progression" whether that is VC or rep or record or something, but I look at it as pickup games with friends. I don't get anything from those other than bruises in real life, but they're lots of fun.

        I definitely think we need VC fixed for the Pro-Am. I would have at least 10K if I actually got the amount they told me I got in those games. But leave myPark rep for myPark. For someone like myself, who just wants to play a mode and have fun with it, I'm enjoying it. Leaderboards should work but they only tell you how much someone plays. Same with record a lot of the time. 2K is the only game where I'm not fazed by someone's record or leaderboard spot because I know they just play a bit too much possibly. It's only as fun as you make it.


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        • FRANCHIZE NW
          Rookie
          • Sep 2015
          • 41

          #5
          Re: There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

          When all the trailers came out and more and more discussion was being talked about, it made me think Pro Am would be amazing. But as we all no, basically all they showed in the trailer, is all we get.

          Where it is now is just a shell of what it should be. I thought we'd get rosters with maybe the ability to run with more players than 5v5. Multiple team owners if we wanted. Any kind of reward for playing. But as it is now, is just a fun little mode that we use if we have 5 guys wanting to run at one time.

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          • bo.jangles344
            Banned
            • Jun 2013
            • 1007

            #6
            Re: There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

            To everyone who says this game mode doesn't need a progression system like rep, think about it this way. You may not play park because you don't care for how "arcade"it is. Those same people used to play rec last year until patch 4 when park and rec was essentially broken. But the rec didn't have everyone quitting out by the end of the first quarter because you essentially lost more rep for quitting than losing. On top of that, hardly anyone decent at the game plays proam so you're enjoying it because you're running against substantially lesser competition. If there was a rep system in place you could get more people to play and better competition and people wouldn't be quitting all the time. Lastly, i know a lot of people say that they play pro am for "fun" which is fine, but you could still have fun and still be rewarded. Regardless tho, if you think about how many people DO play park, you could substantially increase the reliability of both systems by increasing the number of players in proam by reducing the number of players in park. Essentially, the more people playing proam and getting disconnected or leader boards not working would be addressed faster since there would be more demand for them to work properly.

            I don't see a downside for adding rep or substantially increasing the amount of vc earned.

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            • XxSpiritHunterX
              Pro
              • Mar 2013
              • 533

              #7
              Re: There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

              Originally posted by bo.jangles344
              To everyone who says this game mode doesn't need a progression system like rep, think about it this way. You may not play park because you don't care for how "arcade"it is. Those same people used to play rec last year until patch 4 when park and rec was essentially broken. But the rec didn't have everyone quitting out by the end of the first quarter because you essentially lost more rep for quitting than losing. On top of that, hardly anyone decent at the game plays proam so you're enjoying it because you're running against substantially lesser competition. If there was a rep system in place you could get more people to play and better competition and people wouldn't be quitting all the time. Lastly, i know a lot of people say that they play pro am for "fun" which is fine, but you could still have fun and still be rewarded. Regardless tho, if you think about how many people DO play park, you could substantially increase the reliability of both systems by increasing the number of players in proam by reducing the number of players in park. Essentially, the more people playing proam and getting disconnected or leader boards not working would be addressed faster since there would be more demand for them to work properly.

              I don't see a downside for adding rep or substantially increasing the amount of vc earned.

              Don't get me wrong, I love Pro-Am, but I also love Park. The options are great but the way I see it is being two separate modes. Kind of like Crew in 2K10/11/14 and then the blacktop modes in those games. If they're going to add some reputation system to Pro-Am, let it be separate from myPark's rep system. A progression system, however, should've been in the first place. I would love to see divisions like in FIFA's pro clubs and tournaments when they come around.

              I do agree with your point with the lesser competition. But I personally feel I get some decent competition in Pro-Am like in a myPark. It could be cheesy or straight up good players. As long as I'm enjoying it. I don't think not having a rep system tho is the main reason.

              Honestly, going away from who's playing what, it's just weird seeing this mode turn up to being a side mode. Almost like All-Star Team Up, another rather good mode. Would love to see more appeal, but I also think people don't trust the mode after playing Park all last year and the issues Pro-Am had on- and post-release day up until the patch.


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              • The 24th Letter
                ERA
                • Oct 2007
                • 39373

                #8
                Re: There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

                I play it for fun....and will keep doing so....but I get where you're coming from....definitely wish they had better stat tracking

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                • Lord Bonium
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 682

                  #9
                  Re: There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

                  My incentive is that it's the most fun mode to me, vc would be nice though. Don't care about rep, stats or records personally. The worst part is that it's obvious that we're supposed to be getting vc but i guess it's just glitched. It's kind of insulting they haven't patched that by now. If it was the other way, like if we would be getting twice as much vc as we should, you can bet it would've been patched within about 24 hours.

                  Anyway, like i've seen many people post, i hope in the future they just make you have separate players for (offline) mycareer and (online) pro-am/park. Career is extremely boring to me (in it's current state) and the only reason i play it is to get badges and upgrades. Just let us earn those in the online modes. Maybe even add an online career or smth with a system like rttp in myteam but with a regular season, playoffs and finals ladder. With rewards obviously.

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                  • Rockie_Fresh88
                    Lockdown Defender
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 9621

                    #10
                    Re: There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

                    The mode is fun and I enjoy it but there is a lot of emptiness . I want VC that shouldn't be debated. But playing against the A.I after teams quit is not a fun experience. The rankings at start up and seeing the opposing teams W/L is broken. What negative effects do ppl get for quitting ? On top of that there is no "squad" or any ties to a team. You can play with a million different ppl as long as you are the leader . Why should I help other ppl get their squad to the top and not mine
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                    • EarvGotti
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 2249

                      #11
                      Re: There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

                      Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                      The mode is fun and I enjoy it but there is a lot of emptiness . I want VC that shouldn't be debated. But playing against the A.I after teams quit is not a fun experience. The rankings at start up and seeing the opposing teams W/L is broken. What negative effects do ppl get for quitting ? On top of that there is no "squad" or any ties to a team. You can play with a million different ppl as long as you are the leader . Why should I help other ppl get their squad to the top and not mine
                      This x100000

                      2K has to do something to fix this.
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                      • Ownal0t
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 1244

                        #12
                        Re: There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

                        me and my do it for the following reasons

                        - We just want to play. and one of my friends internet is so bad, he cant play in the park without lagging, but he can play pro am just fine. so it works out for us.

                        - We like the competition (When you arent facing scrubs)

                        - the games are more exciting than park. im about to star uploading games from 2k and live to my yt channel.

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                        • DakkoN
                          All Star
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 5611

                          #13
                          Re: There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

                          Been getting VC the last 2 nights. It may not look like it because it isn't added right away when it says calculating VC, but when you get back in shoot around gym it has went up.
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                          • Rockie_Fresh88
                            Lockdown Defender
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 9621

                            #14
                            Re: There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

                            That's good if they fixed it . But why won't it show the amount we get like the pro am genetic courts do ?
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                            • barond57
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 385

                              #15
                              Re: There's Zero Incentive For Playing Pro-Am If You Are Not The Owner

                              Originally posted by bo.jangles344
                              To everyone who says this game mode doesn't need a progression system like rep, think about it this way. You may not play park because you don't care for how "arcade"it is. Those same people used to play rec last year until patch 4 when park and rec was essentially broken. But the rec didn't have everyone quitting out by the end of the first quarter because you essentially lost more rep for quitting than losing. On top of that, hardly anyone decent at the game plays proam so you're enjoying it because you're running against substantially lesser competition. If there was a rep system in place you could get more people to play and better competition and people wouldn't be quitting all the time. Lastly, i know a lot of people say that they play pro am for "fun" which is fine, but you could still have fun and still be rewarded. Regardless tho, if you think about how many people DO play park, you could substantially increase the reliability of both systems by increasing the number of players in proam by reducing the number of players in park. Essentially, the more people playing proam and getting disconnected or leader boards not working would be addressed faster since there would be more demand for them to work properly.

                              I don't see a downside for adding rep or substantially increasing the amount of vc earned.
                              If they add somthing like rep, teams will try to find all the cheats and glitches to win. That's what happened to park. That ish isn't basketball. I say leave as is

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