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  • bigdaddykraven
    Rookie
    • Jun 2007
    • 300

    #1

    Submissions are just not fun

    Ok, I get it, you have to practice and learn it. I've read the tips, which are good and all but flawed as well. I'm sure if I kept working on it, I could probably get better but I just realized...submissions, at least for me, just aren't fun.

    I have no fun in doing them. The pin system, while it feels cheap at times, at least gives me a sense of excitement and fun (seriously fix the random button lag though). Submissions, they just aren't fun especially against the PC who can seemingly determine which way the bar needs to move with no second to think about it, You almost never see them trying to adjust to you but instantly reacting to you.

    I think one simple thing could make it better. Instead having to push the stick in the direction of the bar, just change it so that left always goes clock-wise while right always moves it counter clock-wise. I've lost many times trying to do that "just tap it" tip that was created because now the bar is on the left of the circle and instead of making it back to the right by pressing right, I have to press down now.

    I'm having an incredible blast with this game, first wrestling WWE game I've bought since the PS2/Xbox Days and I'm really having fun but every time submission becomes a part of the game (doing the Showcase matches against Brett Hart right now), my fun turns to frustration and anger. I just have no fun with that part. It isn't because I need to "get gud" with it I just really do not find the mechanic all that fun.

    So this is a rant post but also for anyone who maybe feels or felt the same way as me to come on and share what makes it better and the game enjoyable again.
  • Brandwin
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 30621

    #2
    Re: Submissions are just not fun

    Yeah. Submission system is the main negative i have with the game. Just frustrating trying to get a win with them.

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    • Lisac
      MVP
      • Aug 2013
      • 1820

      #3
      Re: Submissions are just not fun

      Agree a 110%. The only true bad thing about this game

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      • PVarck31
        Moderator
        • Jan 2003
        • 16869

        #4
        Re: Submissions are just not fun

        Agreed. Definitely my biggest complaint about the game to this point.

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        • and1product
          Rookie
          • Nov 2004
          • 473

          #5
          Re: Submissions are just not fun

          Originally posted by PVarck31
          Agreed. Definitely my biggest complaint about the game to this point.
          I just thought I really suck at the submission in the game but I am glad everyone else is equally frustrated and losing lol.
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          • Brandwin
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 30621

            #6
            Re: Submissions are just not fun

            Search WWE 2k16 submission on Twitter. There are so many complaints.

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            • xandere313
              Rookie
              • Apr 2013
              • 97

              #7
              Re: Submissions are just not fun

              I was with you, but since I found out youre not supposed to spin it, just point where to go, I've finished almost every match with a submission. It wasn't even a point of practice for me, just start using the point method and it became so much easier.

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              • voodoo_magic
                On the 15 day DL-blister
                • Mar 2005
                • 726

                #8
                Re: Submissions are just not fun

                I agree.
                The way it is should be the legend difficulty setting.
                On easy the cpu bar should be bigger and go a little slower.

                It's crazy there isn't even an easy way to practice other than play 30 matches.

                Hopefully next year there will be a slider to adjust this.

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                • bigdaddykraven
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 300

                  #9
                  Re: Submissions are just not fun

                  Originally posted by xandere313
                  I was with you, but since I found out youre not supposed to spin it, just point where to go, I've finished almost every match with a submission. It wasn't even a point of practice for me, just start using the point method and it became so much easier.
                  Yeah I learned you aren't supposed to spin it and just tapping it has made it a little better but it still is terrible and WAY in favor of the CPU. Being hard isn't the problem as I said, the pin system is hard but I enjoy it. Its just not fun. Simple as that. I have no doubt that I'll eventually get good at it (right now I'm getting beaten by Savio Vega with a simple arm bar) but I still don't think I'll enjoy it.

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                  • JohnnyCash2015
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 342

                    #10
                    Re: Submissions are just not fun

                    It's horrible


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                    • Kaliz0r
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 14

                      #11
                      Re: Submissions are just not fun

                      It its pretty awful. I don't have too much of a problem breaking out of submissions (at least not early on in matches) but it's very hard for me to get the CPU to tap out. Funny thing is I was able to do it my very first time in the showcase submission match against Bret Hart with no problem, but when I replayed the match as Bret Hart to try to beat that objective I could never get Austin to tap. I've played the match at least 6 or 7 times now and put him in probably a total of 50 submissions over the course of those matches and have never been able to win. And this is on Normal difficulty.

                      I haven't looked into this, and am too lazy right now, but I wonder if there is a skill that wrestlers have that makes them more likely to break out of a submission. If so, Austin's would probably be maxed, considering I don't think he ever tapped out. That would explain why it's so hard to break him in the game.

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                      • wiscowilz
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 4829

                        #12
                        Re: Submissions are just not fun

                        I would completely agree. Finally was able to pick up my copy yesterday and damn submissions suck.
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                        • Brandwin
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 30621

                          #13
                          Re: Submissions are just not fun

                          So the point method. I just push the stick to the spot where the blue meter is located?

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                          • Reed1417
                            MVP
                            • May 2012
                            • 6121

                            #14
                            Re: Submissions are just not fun

                            Yeah I'm not a fan of it either. I was never good with this method in UFC 3. It's just not fun I totally agree man.


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                            • Greene_Flash03
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2118

                              #15
                              Re: Submissions are just not fun

                              Originally posted by xandere313
                              I was with you, but since I found out youre not supposed to spin it, just point where to go, I've finished almost every match with a submission. It wasn't even a point of practice for me, just start using the point method and it became so much easier.
                              Good stuff! I'll try this tonight. Been spinning the stick all this time, so frustrating.

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