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  • ilvpoon
    Rookie
    • Aug 2010
    • 51

    #1

    OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

    PS4 will be the base!! But Xbox users don't hesitate to give your input, we need your knowledge!!

    So I think Beds and the 2k staff do a decent enough job with the ratings, but they have too many masters to fill to be completely ruthless and to rate player's weaknesses accurately. Most notably, defense, speed/quickness/acceleration, and tendencies.
    The lengths/wingspans and badges will all be edited as well.

    Every time I have done this on my own in past 2k games it's worked out to a MUCH more fun and realistic game and you can tell the difference between NBA players. This is a LONG process to do 30 teams.

    These edits will be using the full scope of 25-99.
    Example:
    Chris Kaman speed = 27
    James Harden on ball d and help defense CONSIDERABLY lowered to the low 30s, etc.
    Kevin Martin strength = 26

    I have no hardline "rules" yet for these rosters, but as I search for more info on %age - rating conversion rates, I'll let you know.
    Example:
    45% 3s = 99 3pt rating


    For right now, most of these edits are going to subjective to the editors opinion, but I would like them to be somewhat uniform across the league to make the players accurate to scale
    Example:
    John Wall should be rated very high in speed and quickness, slightly higher than Mike Conley, but much higher than Jeff Green, who would be much higher than Paul Pierce.

    Ideally, these ratings would be discussed here, especially any time there is any discrepancy between opinions in the community.

    ************************************************** ************
    I'm looking for hardcore watchers of NBA basketball to help me completely re rate every player in the game. I want to do it team by team, accurately reflecting real life advanced stats. I think one OS member per team would do the trick.

    Please respond with what team you would like to re rate in the thread and maybe we can set up a whatsapp group or discuss here


    Atlanta Hawks
    Boston Celtics
    Charlotte Bobcats
    Chicago Bulls
    Cleveland Cavaliers
    Dallas Mavericks
    Denver Nuggets
    Detroit Pistons
    Golden State Warriors
    Houston Rockets
    Indiana Pacers
    LA Clippers
    LA Lakers
    Memphis Grizzlies
    Miami Heat
    Milwaukee Bucks
    Minnesota Timberwolves
    New Jersey Nets
    New Orleans Hornets
    New York Knicks
    Oklahoma City Thunder
    Orlando Magic
    Philadelphia Sixers
    Phoenix Suns
    Portland Trail Blazers - iLvpoon
    Sacramento Kings
    San Antonio Spurs
    Toronto Raptors
    Utah Jazz
    Washington Wizards
    Last edited by ilvpoon; 12-09-2015, 10:31 PM.
  • Jaiveer
    MVP
    • Aug 2015
    • 1460

    #2
    Re: OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

    I can try raptors, but might end up overrating some

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    • ilvpoon
      Rookie
      • Aug 2010
      • 51

      #3
      Re: OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

      Originally posted by Jaiveer
      I can try raptors, but might end up overrating some
      I would like these rosters to be as accurate as possible, so if you can't look at the whole league as a spectrum when rating them I'd rather not rate them at all.

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      • SonicMage
        NBA Ratings Wizard
        • Oct 2002
        • 3544

        #4
        Re: OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

        Eventually I'll have lots of tendencies for you from this season here: Sonicmage Sportscrunch Rosters

        People like to rag on Harden's D but he's actually not bad this year. One of the top in the league at P&R defense and near the top for 1-on-1 D.

        NBA.com Iso defense

        NBA.com P&R defense
        NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

        Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
        Link to Ratings 1996-2017
        Link to Ratings 1973-1996
        Link to Ratings All-time

        Discussion found here

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        • Barncore
          Formerly known as Barnsey
          • Aug 2003
          • 1337

          #5
          Re: OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

          Originally posted by Sonicmage
          Eventually I'll have lots of tendencies for you from this season here: Sonicmage Sportscrunch Rosters

          People like to rag on Harden's D but he's actually not bad this year. One of the top in the league at P&R defense and near the top for 1-on-1 D.

          NBA.com Iso defense

          NBA.com P&R defense
          Don't put too much stock into those stats. Teammates can affect your rank in things like that. Dwight often saves Haren's butt.

          That said, Haren's on-ball D is decent. When he has 1 player to focus on he can give a guy trouble, because he's got a big body and good reaction speed when he's locked in. It's his off-ball defense where he's awful. But it's not even an ability thing, it's often just a losing focus thing. Doesn't seem to care whether they score or not sometimes. I don't know. But in conclusion: it's his consistency and help defense that's bad, not his on-ball D. But let's not go overboard and say that his on-ball D is good, per se, it's just not below average. Somewhere between average and decent.
          Last edited by Barncore; 12-10-2015, 09:15 AM.

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          • Jaiveer
            MVP
            • Aug 2015
            • 1460

            #6
            Re: OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

            Originally posted by ilvpoon
            I would like these rosters to be as accurate as possible, so if you can't look at the whole league as a spectrum when rating them I'd rather not rate them at all.
            okay I can try like warriors because klay has a posterizer badge so that it is going to go out

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            • BUCKSWEATSHIRT
              Rookie
              • Nov 2012
              • 434

              #7
              Re: OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

              Originally posted by Jaiveer
              okay I can try like warriors because klay has a posterizer badge so that it is going to go out
              Klay actually has dunked on a good amount of people in his time in the league. And also I can do the Bulls


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              • Jaiveer
                MVP
                • Aug 2015
                • 1460

                #8
                Re: OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

                Yeah but there are some people who don't have it and they are way better Dunkers

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                • BUCKSWEATSHIRT
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 434

                  #9
                  Re: OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

                  Originally posted by Jaiveer
                  Yeah but there are some people who don't have it and they are way better Dunkers

                  Yea that is a problem, but I wouldn't mind giving him bronze posterizer imo


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                  • Barncore
                    Formerly known as Barnsey
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 1337

                    #10
                    Re: OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

                    I wouldn't be giving Klay a bronze posterizing badge. That's not him

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                    • Jaiveer
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 1460

                      #11
                      Re: OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

                      Originally posted by Barnsey
                      I wouldn't be giving Klay a bronze posterizing badge. That's not him
                      Yeah I agree I think he has a gold or silver badge

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                      • Barncore
                        Formerly known as Barnsey
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1337

                        #12
                        Re: OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

                        No I don't think he should have a posterizer badge at all. Give him good attributes in dunking, sure. But he's not someone that's known for posterizing. That's not his game.

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                        • BUCKSWEATSHIRT
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 434

                          #13
                          Re: OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

                          Well with the 5 or 6 posters I've seen from him, I wouldn't mind giving him a bronze.


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                          • SonicMage
                            NBA Ratings Wizard
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 3544

                            #14
                            Re: OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

                            Looks like a bronze posterizer to me.



                            NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

                            Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
                            Link to Ratings 1996-2017
                            Link to Ratings 1973-1996
                            Link to Ratings All-time

                            Discussion found here

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                            • Barncore
                              Formerly known as Barnsey
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1337

                              #15
                              Re: OS Community Roster Rerating Project 2015-2016 (all 30 teams, sign up here!)

                              Those first two look like basic rim grazer dunks to me.

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