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Knight165 01-29-2016 07:02 PM

Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (RELEASE ANNOUNCED! Sunday at 6 PM ET!)
 
Hello baseball brethren!

I can't believe it's that time again....but it is.....time to get ready for another edition of the Operation Sports Full Minors.

This great community effort is nearing a decade of existence in one form or another and is stronger than ever.

There will be some changes to this year's format.....as we have several editor already working on the 2016 players and we will simply import them.

RidinDwnKingsely will once again be doing the importing to the Master file and checking that everything is in line.
Willard76 has a roster that has the faces for most players that need them(of course as we get closer...we may need to create some or edit existing)....thanks to many face editors ...Motown...Willard himself and others(I'll get the names for sure)
ShowTyme has created a roster that has up to date transactions(I believe he and bacong worked on this together)
The individual team editors are working on the players they want to see in each organization.

All of these elements will be combined to try and get a set out VERY soon after the release of MLB The Show 2016 as we can import the players from the master to a new roster file once the game is released.(we hope.....in the fact that the CPU ROSTER CONTROL trick still works....I tried to get confirmation from the CD guys...but it was too late as they were done already....I will try and ask Ramone or Lorne if it's still there....I think it will be)

At any rate there has already been a tremendous amount of work done.....but there is still a lot more to be worked on.

This should be a tremendous set....with a tighter work group.

Thanks and I'll keep you guys updated!

M.K.
Knight165

NDAlum 01-29-2016 07:04 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Is it done yet?
When's the ETA?
Can you post what you have so far?
I'm cool with it not being 100% so just get it out ASAP!

Is it done yet? ETA?

Knight165 01-29-2016 07:06 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NDAlum (Post 2047981943)
Is it done yet?
When's the ETA?
Can you post what you have so far?
I'm cool with it not being 100% so just get it out ASAP!

Is it done yet? ETA?

Ha...my favorite line for sure.

M.K.
Knight165

WaitTilNextYear 01-29-2016 07:23 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
So, thread title change to 2016?

gamer052001 01-29-2016 07:47 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Sounds great! Will international free agents be included again this year?

redsox4evur 01-29-2016 07:49 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
This should be done at 12:01 on 3/29, right?

Knight165 01-29-2016 07:54 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear (Post 2047981977)
So, thread title change to 2016?

Whoops!

If a mod can change that to 2016, I would appreciate it!
Thank you!

M.K.
Knight165

Knight165 01-29-2016 07:55 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gamer052001 (Post 2047982003)
Sounds great! Will international free agents be included again this year?

We could add them into a separate roster(the 2016 O.S.F.M. w/Int. FA's)

M.K.
Knight165

PhilliesFan13 01-31-2016 08:58 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Looking forward to another great set for sure. Phillies minor leagues should be fantastic in the game this year.

Not looking forward to seeing the "when will it be finished" questions a million times until release. Such is The Show forum this time of year though..

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redsfan4life 01-31-2016 09:15 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Back for another year. Will give whatever help I can :)

Main source of expertise with the Reds but I know quite a lot about prospects around the majors too. Just let me know what is needed of me.

redsoxfan31 02-01-2016 09:43 AM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Cannot wait for this set to come out, you guys always do such phenomenal work. Let me know if you need any help! My main area of knowledge is within the ranks of the Red Sox system but I helped Willard get all accurate contracts into his set last year for 100% of the MLB and a good portion of AAA guys where information was available. Willing to help in whatever way needed this year.

Ivanhoe 02-01-2016 10:59 AM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Knight,

What are your thoughts on the importance of a players overall rating?
Should we be overly concerned about their OVR as opposed to defining a players skill in individual ratings?

I'm afraid I'm not explaining this very well...

For instance:
If a AA shortstop is a defensive wizard but a light bat, and you input his ratings this way, his OVR may be higher than the shortstop in AAA or even the MJR.

The CPU seems to look solely at a players OVR, thus you may find a 20 year old shortstop in AAA while the 30 year old shortstop is in AA or even A ball.

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks

seanjeezy 02-01-2016 12:27 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivanhoe (Post 2047985698)
Knight,

What are your thoughts on the importance of a players overall rating?
Should we be overly concerned about their OVR as opposed to defining a players skill in individual ratings?

I'm afraid I'm not explaining this very well...

For instance:
If a AA shortstop is a defensive wizard but a light bat, and you input his ratings this way, his OVR may be higher than the shortstop in AAA or even the MJR.

The CPU seems to look solely at a players OVR, thus you may find a 20 year old shortstop in AAA while the 30 year old shortstop is in AA or even A ball.

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks

Not Knight but for me I let the ratings speak for themselves, and I wouldn't intentionally gimp a player's current ability just to hit a certain threshold. Its true that the CPU heavily favors overall but the logic has been improving over the years, and hopefully that continues this year. I think the way overall ratings are calculated was much improved last year, and there seems to be a stronger drop-off in overall if a player is exceptionally poor in one of the major ratings for his position. To put it simply, balance is becoming more important to achieve a significantly higher overall, so a SS with 70's/80's fielding and arm but low 20's contact/power will still have an overall in the mid/low 50's (got a couple of those guys in the M's system). If an AAA or MLB player is in the mid/low 50's then he is definitely being rated off of some poor SS sample size and should be bumped up.

Also, its hard to talk about overall without talking about potential, especially when we start discussing the top prospects, A's and B's, etc. And it gets exceptionally more complicated when discussing ceilings vs floors and the limitations of the current progression system. Patiently waiting for that franchise blog to see how much love franchise gets this year lol

mhagf4 02-01-2016 01:44 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Checking in to say that I can handle the Royals again.

CWSpalehoseCWS 02-01-2016 06:46 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Back for the White Sox as usual.

May I offer a suggestion since it is still fairly early? One of the biggest flaws with last years OSFM in my opinion was player's service time and career stats. We were finally given the ability to carry over rosters - lets use that to it's full potential. With that said, we are now 2 games deep with exporting ability... Can we please make sure that players who removed from MLB 15 & 16 but included in the set have their accurate career stats and service times? This is easily accomplished by exporting the replacement player from a cloud saved franchise into the set.

I know it's an absolute PITA to re-create the faces but if we are striving for accuracy this only makes sense. Maybe a few of us can volunteer with helping identify and exporting players into the vault for everyone to use? I would gladly help, but this is not something one person can get done by themselves.

Transferring faces is easily accomplished with pictures of each screen. I did this with both Matt Davidson and Rob Brantly. When Brantly was called up, I didn't even have to worry about importing over the OSFM version because his stats and service time were already 100% accurate.

Accurate service time is also not that hard to accomplish for players removed 3-4 years back. Just more tedious and time consuming.

Knight165 02-01-2016 07:25 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Guys....for those who are working on teams....please P.M. both Willard76 and RidinDwnKingsley.

The 2016 roster has been being worked on for a while now(in 2015 MLBTS obviously) off of your work from last year.

If you guys touch base....and tell them what you guys want to work on ....and they will tell you what they have...it will go a lot smoother and less duplicate work.

Thanks!

M.K.
Knight165

AquaX101 02-01-2016 08:08 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
anybody have a rating calculator that works with google drive?

TheKnack 02-02-2016 12:31 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Can we pin this?

Scott 02-02-2016 12:36 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Done.


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chezel78 02-02-2016 01:45 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Are pitch edits going to be included in the initial roster? I think they came a bit later last year but cannot remember.

Again thanks for everyone already putting in the work! I am anxious to start early this year!

K_GUN 02-02-2016 09:00 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
So....for various reasons I prob will be passing on 2016 and stick with 2015.....is there any way or do you guys know of anyone doing an updated roster set for MLB 2015?....

Knight165 02-02-2016 10:00 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K_GUN (Post 2047988838)
So....for various reasons I prob will be passing on 2016 and stick with 2015.....is there any way or do you guys know of anyone doing an updated roster set for MLB 2015?....

KGun....we'll actually have the roster as a 2015 version and then be transferring it to 2016....


...and pitch edits on the initial set?....no...I'm sure there will be one though by someone.

M.K.
Knight165

K_GUN 02-03-2016 07:43 AM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight165 (Post 2047988962)
KGun....we'll actually have the roster as a 2015 version and then be transferring it to 2016....





...and pitch edits on the initial set?....no...I'm sure there will be one though by someone.



M.K.

Knight165


Dude this is great--i think--lol---does that mean i can grab the file thru my 2015 copy?....wow, this is great!... If I'm understanding it correctly

Props to all u guys for these rosters...i enjoy the authenticity[emoji1363][emoji1360]


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Dynasty Legend 99 02-03-2016 02:10 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Excited for this set, worked on V1 last year and am available for any Face work as needed.


See you all 3/29,
DL 99

chezel78 02-03-2016 02:39 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
...and pitch edits on the initial set?....no...I'm sure there will be one though by someone.

M.K.
Knight165[/quote]

Thanks for the info!

Kollin7 02-04-2016 01:21 AM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Can't wait, guys.

Been using OSFM since I believe 2012(?) and now I can't imagine playing the game without it.

Should be especially fun this year since my Brewers farm system is actually looking pretty good for the first time in like 8 years.

ShowTyme15 02-04-2016 06:03 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Oakley, EvoShield, and All Star are the new equipment brands.

Looks like most catcher mitts will get updated. A ton of pitchers and a few position players have all star as a mitt so that looks promising. We don't know if they expanded on current brands or not.

Dynasty Legend 99 02-07-2016 12:20 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
How does the group this year plan on attacking Running Styles? I'd recommend that you do it based on weight (although that seems a bit obvious) and speed stats (i.e. Position, steal numbers, etc.)

ShowTyme15 02-07-2016 01:31 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynasty Legend 99 (Post 2047995866)
How does the group this year plan on attacking Running Styles? I'd recommend that you do it based on weight (although that seems a bit obvious) and speed stats (i.e. Position, steal numbers, etc.)

I personally would go by.speed, but that's just me.

Houston 02-07-2016 05:57 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowTyme15 (Post 2047995974)
I personally would go by.speed, but that's just me.

I would do a scale like Knight usually has for the other ratings.

Something like this might work -

* New running styles are normal, lumbering, speedster and athletic

80-99 (Speedster)
60-79 (Athletic)
40-59 (Normal)
0-39 (Lumbering)

Knight165 02-07-2016 06:51 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
I'd like to see how the running applications actually work.
Should be interesting.
I hope there are no lumbering 90 speed guys generated! :)
But a speedster motion on a slow *** player might be funny!

M.K.
Knight165

Jros22 02-08-2016 07:24 AM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight165 (Post 2047996428)
I'd like to see how the running applications actually work.
Should be interesting.
I hope there are no lumbering 90 speed guys generated! :)
But a speedster motion on a slow *** player might be funny!

M.K.
Knight165

Am willing to help with the http://www.operationsports.com/forum...d-ratings.html and stances of the MiLB players.

Carlos Correa

Brian McCann

Francisco Lindor

George Springer

ShowTyme15 02-09-2016 07:00 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
According to the stream and a tweet they did expand on the existing brands in the game.

The Kid 24 02-09-2016 07:10 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowTyme15 (Post 2048001054)
According to the stream and a tweet they did expand on the existing brands in the game.

Nice!!! Hopefully Mizuno and Marucci.

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JDiaz1 02-09-2016 11:59 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
If you guys need help in any way just let me know and I'd be glad to help. Not the best when it comes to faces, but I can quickly edit equipment and ratings if you need guys for that.

PhilliesFan13 02-10-2016 11:15 AM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Happy to assist with the Phillies if needed.

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Knight165 02-10-2016 11:21 AM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
I'm waiting to hear from Willard and Ridin' on the status of the '15 file...and what they might need to add in right now.

I'll definitely keep you guys updated.

M.K.
Knight165

ShowTyme15 02-10-2016 02:23 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Phillies picked up Taylor Featherston from the Angels today for cash. I would remove either Scott Kingery or Harold Ramirez to make room for Featherston. The Phillies and Braves will be the most difficult teams to do this year. They have so many players and depending on who they keep a lot of players aren't going to make it into OSFM.

Scott 02-10-2016 02:49 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
I'm assuming we're supposed to be doing AAA 100% right?

ShowTyme15 02-10-2016 02:52 PM

re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2016 (No ETA as of 4/6, please don't ask for one)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott (Post 2048002331)
I'm assuming we're supposed to be doing AAA 100% right?

Would be ideal.


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