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  • kabamaru
    MVP
    • Nov 2013
    • 2478

    #1

    Scoring in the paint frequency?

    It could be my but it seems it has been far easier after latest patch.

    Especially against opponents that play on all-star level (seed 4), their only way to go is have 3 shooters and two tall guys. Then pass the ball to tall guys and post-up and dunk or pump-fake for an easy 2 FT. If you go for a double team you get a 3. I just played a guy who had 18-20 FG before he started rushing when I swtiched to zone. How is it possible to have 18/20 FG all in the paint after posting plus free throws from the fouls?

    Earlier in the year you could strip the ball in the paint when crowded. This does not seem the case anymore.

    Do you have similar experience?
    Last edited by kabamaru; 05-13-2016, 11:49 AM.
  • TripleJJJay
    Rookie
    • Jun 2013
    • 66

    #2
    Re: Scoring in the paint frequency?

    I agree.

    I know the pump faking into free throws has gotten really annoying. I've played guys that really abuse it. The CPU goes for far too many pump fakes, and 2k rewards them by giving them FTs and sometimes even and 1s. Seems like it's gotten worse. Also the CPU going for ridiculous steals that just lead to an open lay up. One of the first rules of defense is to stay in between your man and the goal. I'll put conservative defense on and it doesn't matter. Still going for pump fakes and insane steal attempts.
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    • QNo
      MVP
      • Nov 2014
      • 1821

      #3
      Re: Scoring in the paint frequency?

      Patch 6 hasn't hit PC yet, so I can't comment on that iteration. Previously, the best way to avoid getting called on pumpfakes was to turn defensive assistance down (I use 15-20) and to let go of L2. L2 activates defensive assistance even if you have it set to 0. Use the RS to contest instead; when they jump, the vertical contest (Y + LS up) is the best option. They'll still draw a few fouls this way when a help defender acts stupid, but it eliminates 90% of them. On the 2nd or 3rd pumpfake you can also often successfully strip the offensive player if you have a good defender.

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      • kabamaru
        MVP
        • Nov 2013
        • 2478

        #4
        Re: Scoring in the paint frequency?

        Could have to do with patch 6.

        Game has changed a lot, and probably most of my opponents have realized it. It can't just happened that ALL my opponents post up. Hell

        I had one guy the day before he was turboing and posting up in the paint with CP and then he would pass the ball between 3 defenders straight to his center

        That being said I always played with defensive assistance in 100.

        I don't even know what does it do. The guy who learned me the basics of 2k15 (when i first bought) told me to do so and I keep doing it. What does it do?

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        • QNo
          MVP
          • Nov 2014
          • 1821

          #5
          Re: Scoring in the paint frequency?

          Originally posted by kabamaru
          Could have to do with patch 6.

          Game has changed a lot, and probably most of my opponents have realized it. It can't just happened that ALL my opponents post up. Hell

          I had one guy the day before he was turboing and posting up in the paint with CP and then he would pass the ball between 3 defenders straight to his center

          That being said I always played with defensive assistance in 100.

          I don't even know what does it do. The guy who learned me the basics of 2k15 (when i first bought) told me to do so and I keep doing it. What does it do?
          At 100%, the CPU does a lot of the work for you, so playing on-ball with 100 is not that different from playing off-ball. The CPU helps you stay with your guy, but will also fall for fakes and moves a lot more. The better you are at on-balling, the lower defensive assistance I would recommend.

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          • TripleJJJay
            Rookie
            • Jun 2013
            • 66

            #6
            Re: Scoring in the paint frequency?

            Originally posted by QNo
            Patch 6 hasn't hit PC yet, so I can't comment on that iteration. Previously, the best way to avoid getting called on pumpfakes was to turn defensive assistance down (I use 15-20) and to let go of L2. L2 activates defensive assistance even if you have it set to 0. Use the RS to contest instead; when they jump, the vertical contest (Y + LS up) is the best option. They'll still draw a few fouls this way when a help defender acts stupid, but it eliminates 90% of them. On the 2nd or 3rd pumpfake you can also often successfully strip the offensive player if you have a good defender.

            Thanks for the tip. I'll try that.
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            • kabamaru
              MVP
              • Nov 2013
              • 2478

              #7
              Re: Scoring in the paint frequency?

              Originally posted by QNo
              At 100%, the CPU does a lot of the work for you, so playing on-ball with 100 is not that different from playing off-ball. The CPU helps you stay with your guy, but will also fall for fakes and moves a lot more. The better you are at on-balling, the lower defensive assistance I would recommend.
              Thanks for the defensive assist strength tip. I lowered it to 50, and I see great improvement, of course no fully fixed but great improvement

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              • harryl
                MVP
                • Apr 2015
                • 2663

                #8
                Re: Scoring in the paint frequency?

                Originally posted by QNo
                At 100%, the CPU does a lot of the work for you, so playing on-ball with 100 is not that different from playing off-ball. The CPU helps you stay with your guy, but will also fall for fakes and moves a lot more. The better you are at on-balling, the lower defensive assistance I would recommend.
                Dropping Defensive Assist and switching Shot Contest to Manual for on-ball D is definitely the way to go. I usually go with 5 or 10.

                It's not just cutting down on automated aggressive contests and reaches and such.

                It seems to me that the main point of Defensive Assist is to help the defender stick with his assignment, in man-to-man on-ball defense. So it creates a "gravity" to the ballhandler and "sucks" the defender toward him.

                If you're really atrocious at moving with the ballhandler, then it can be useful. But, otherwise, it basically reduces fine control of your defender. You definitely get sucked into really close Smother defense when trying to maintain, say, 3 feet of distance. And it'll make you more sluggish in following drive attempts or overcompensate laterally.

                Defensive Assist is basically like training wheels for on-ball D. If you know how to ride a bike well, you take off the training wheels, because they end up compromising your handling.

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                • Hustle Westbrook
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 3113

                  #9
                  Re: Scoring in the paint frequency?

                  I remember back in older 2Ks if you pump faked too many times, you would get called for a travel.

                  Not sure why they took it out tbh.
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                  • Scramz718
                    MVP
                    • May 2012
                    • 1324

                    #10
                    Re: Scoring in the paint frequency?

                    Originally posted by Hustle Westbrook
                    I remember back in older 2Ks if you pump faked too many times, you would get called for a travel.

                    Not sure why they took it out tbh.


                    That still happens

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                    • Hustle Westbrook
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 3113

                      #11
                      Re: Scoring in the paint frequency?

                      Originally posted by Scramz718
                      That still happens
                      I rarely see it happens. In fact I get called for traveling doing jab steps out of the triple threat than spamming pump fakes.
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                      • Scramz718
                        MVP
                        • May 2012
                        • 1324

                        #12
                        Re: Scoring in the paint frequency?

                        Originally posted by Hustle Westbrook
                        I rarely see it happens. In fact I get called for traveling doing jab steps out of the triple threat than spamming pump fakes.


                        Spamming pumps is a big part of one of my friends offense and he gets called for traveling from time to time. It probably should be call more frequent.

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                        • kabamaru
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 2478

                          #13
                          Re: Scoring in the paint frequency?

                          Originally posted by Scramz718
                          Spamming pumps is a big part of one of my friends offense and he gets called for traveling from time to time. It probably should be call more frequent.
                          It is really annoying. I played a guy that was spamming pump fakes and 3s. Nothing elsei in his game. Just these too.

                          Eventually he lost by 20, but nevertheless it is frustrating.

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                          • quitdabull
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 157

                            #14
                            Re: Scoring in the paint frequency?

                            Originally posted by kabamaru
                            Could have to do with patch 6.

                            Game has changed a lot, and probably most of my opponents have realized it. It can't just happened that ALL my opponents post up. Hell

                            I had one guy the day before he was turboing and posting up in the paint with CP and then he would pass the ball between 3 defenders straight to his center

                            That being said I always played with defensive assistance in 100.

                            I don't even know what does it do. The guy who learned me the basics of 2k15 (when i first bought) told me to do so and I keep doing it. What does it do?
                            Put it on 0 and shot contest on manual

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                            • TripleJJJay
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 66

                              #15
                              Re: Scoring in the paint frequency?

                              The defensive assistance being low helps me out.

                              It's also key to put deny to off ball for shooters, other wise it seems defenders help too much.

                              I was used to putting my shot contest on always back in the 2k13 and 2k14 days, but is it better to do manual?
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