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  • Steve_OS
    Editor-in-Chief
    • Jul 2002
    • 33937

    #1

    FIFA 17 Hands-On Impressions (FSB)


    FSB has posted their FIFA 17 hands-on impressions from E3 2016. They talk about the Frostbite engine, The Journey, physical play, attacking depth, set pieces and much more.

    One of the highlights of this early build is the variety in attacking runs. The AI is constantly assessing pace and opponent positioning in order to provide authentic and varied team mate run options. Attackers don’t just go for the gaps anymore, they consider the impact it has on the opponents backline and try to disrupt it by forcing players out of position. You will see instances where an attacker will make a run to open a gap for you. The results were quite profound in our playtest with one particular situation standing out. With Aubameyang in possession and dribbling quite close to Kagawa through the middle, Reus cuts in and makes a run into the box pulling the right back. Kagawa first offers the short pass option, but then makes an arched run behind Aubameyang, taking a centre back and opening a gap yet providing a through ball option. At that point, you realise that your AI teammates are actively providing options. Interestingly, when the opponent parks the bus, the channels become tighter, yet the effort is still there from your team mates.
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  • TheLetterZ
    All Star
    • Jul 2002
    • 6752

    #2
    Re: FIFA 17 Hands-On Impressions (FSB)

    Anything that leads to more variety among AI teams sounds great to me.

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    • DBMcGee3
      MVP
      • Oct 2011
      • 1166

      #3
      Sounds great, I just hope the defensive AI has also been upgraded. Otherwise is sounds like the offense may be a bit OP'd, a la PES 2016.

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      • RoyceDa59
        Chillin
        • Aug 2003
        • 3830

        #4
        Re: FIFA 17 Hands-On Impressions (FSB)

        If they can really focus on player individuality ( and team tactics) that will be personally be huge for me. I have always felt like this was something incredibly lacking in this Franchise. I am guessing the previous engine kind of hindered what they could do with this.

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        • SVCbearcat10
          Rookie
          • Jun 2013
          • 395

          #5
          In PES, I think goalies were under powered more than offense being over powered. It would be great to get variety. However, I'm sure FIFA hasn't fixed the fact that a team like Shrewsbury Town plays every bit as well, and with every bit the skill, as a team like Manchester United.

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          • KG
            Welcome Back
            • Sep 2005
            • 17583

            #6
            Re: FIFA 17 Hands-On Impressions (FSB)

            Originally posted by RoyceDa59
            If they can really focus on player individuality ( and team tactics) that will be personally be huge for me. I have always felt like this was something incredibly lacking in this Franchise. I am guessing the previous engine kind of hindered what they could do with this.
            I agree Royce. It's nice having all the licenses and stadiums but if the players don't play like their real-life counterparts than what's the point you know.
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            • RoyceDa59
              Chillin
              • Aug 2003
              • 3830

              #7
              Re: FIFA 17 Hands-On Impressions (FSB)

              Originally posted by KG
              I agree Royce. It's nice having all the licenses and stadiums but if the players don't play like their real-life counterparts than what's the point you know.
              Yes it is something that has always kept me from fully enjoying Fifa games these past few years. PES struggled getting back to that point up until last year which was one of the reasons I felt it reviewed well last year. Other than that I can honestly say this is the first Fifa release I have been looking forward to since ever.

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              • bigeastbumrush
                My Momma's Son
                • Feb 2003
                • 19245

                #8
                Re: FIFA 17 Hands-On Impressions (FSB)

                2 things:

                1. Unless I missed it, they've haven't addressed teams playing like their real life counterparts.

                2. The Be A Pro Mode- why start this kid off in the Premier League at what 17 yrs old?

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                • Zac
                  World-Class Diver
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 4269

                  #9
                  Re: FIFA 17 Hands-On Impressions (FSB)

                  Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                  2 things:

                  2. The Be A Pro Mode- why start this kid off in the Premier League at what 17 yrs old?
                  I think hes 19. And because of all the under 21 talent in the EPL currently. There is a couple handful of kids in the EPL right now. Ali, Rashford, Check, Depay, Stirling, Bellerin, Shaw, Ibe, Grealish. There are a bunch. Its just them playing off that.

                  Also this isn't Be a Pro Mode, its a separate mode altogether.

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                  • TheLetterZ
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 6752

                    #10
                    Re: FIFA 17 Hands-On Impressions (FSB)

                    Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                    2 things:

                    1. Unless I missed it, they've haven't addressed teams playing like their real life counterparts.
                    They didn't. I wish they had. But there will be more variety in terms of how teams attack, which should feel refreshing. And they did write about wanting more player individuality through new animations. Progress.

                    Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                    2. The Be A Pro Mode- why start this kid off in the Premier League at what 17 yrs old?
                    I don't know. It doesn't make sense to me. I don't like any of these "story modes" in which you're a spoiled kid who doesn't have to pay his dues at all. Just feels weird to me.

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                    • DBMcGee3
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1166

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SVCbearcat10
                      In PES, I think goalies were under powered more than offense being over powered. It would be great to get variety. However, I'm sure FIFA hasn't fixed the fact that a team like Shrewsbury Town plays every bit as well, and with every bit the skill, as a team like Manchester United.
                      Dude, that's complete BS. I'll be the first to admit that there's not enough variety in play styles in FIFA, but to act like the lower rated teams play at the same level as the Champions League caliber teams simply isn't true. I played a BPL season this year as Arsenal, and I can promise you that my record against the bottom half of the table was significantly better than vs the top half. It's quite a noticeable difference in both speed and skill, I honestly don't see how you could have possibly played the game this year and still say that.

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                      • TheLetterZ
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 6752

                        #12
                        Re: FIFA 17 Hands-On Impressions (FSB)

                        Originally posted by DBMcGee3
                        Dude, that's complete BS. I'll be the first to admit that there's not enough variety in play styles in FIFA, but to act like the lower rated teams play at the same level as the Champions League caliber teams simply isn't true. I played a BPL season this year as Arsenal, and I can promise you that my record against the bottom half of the table was significantly better than vs the top half. It's quite a noticeable difference in both speed and skill, I honestly don't see how you could have possibly played the game this year and still say that.
                        I agree with you.

                        Skill is portrayed well in FIFA. The fast players are fast. The strong players are strong. Good dribblers dribble well.

                        Tendencies are where I have a big problem with FIFA. One of the most beautiful things to me about the sport is how many different strategic approaches a team can take. Even at the highest levels, there exists much strategic variety among top teams. FIFA reflects this fact poorly. The good teams and players play nearly alike in terms of strategic choices. It's disappointing, and I feel like it wouldn't fly in other sports games.

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                        • KG
                          Welcome Back
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 17583

                          #13
                          Re: FIFA 17 Hands-On Impressions (FSB)

                          Originally posted by TheLetterZ
                          I agree with you.

                          Skill is portrayed well in FIFA. The fast players are fast. The strong players are strong. Good dribblers dribble well.

                          Tendencies are where I have a big problem with FIFA. One of the most beautiful things to me about the sport is how many different strategic approaches a team can take. Even at the highest levels, there exists much strategic variety among top teams. FIFA reflects this fact poorly. The good teams and players play nearly alike in terms of strategic choices. It's disappointing, and I feel like it wouldn't fly in other sports games.
                          Agreed. FIFA does a poor job with players like Messi and Ronaldo. They never feel dangerous to me. Yes, they're great finishers and will finish if they're around the net but they never take defenders on. I've played Barcelona for two years running now in the Champions League final with Milan and both times Messi hugged the touchline and did hardly anything. Teams need to play through/funnel their attacks through their main men.

                          It should be hard to take them out of the game, especially if you don't have to man mark them.
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                          • TheLetterZ
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 6752

                            #14
                            Re: FIFA 17 Hands-On Impressions (FSB)

                            Originally posted by KG
                            Agreed. FIFA does a poor job with players like Messi and Ronaldo. They never feel dangerous to me. Yes, they're great finishers and will finish if they're around the net but they never take defenders on. I've played Barcelona for two years running now in the Champions League final with Milan and both times Messi hugged the touchline and did hardly anything. Teams need to play through/funnel their attacks through their main men.

                            It should be hard to take them out of the game, especially if you don't have to man mark them.
                            Right, exactly.

                            And I find it bizarre it is normal and acceptable in FIFA.

                            Imagine a Madden in which the Patriots and Bills ran the ball with the same frequency, or an NBA 2K in which Stephen Curry shot threes as often as Eric Bledsoe or John Wall.

                            It wouldn't fly.

                            But it's somehow normal behavior in FIFA for teams and star players to play more or less the same.

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                            • BezO
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 4414

                              #15
                              Re: FIFA 17 Hands-On Impressions (FSB)

                              Originally posted by TheLetterZ
                              Right, exactly.

                              And I find it bizarre it is normal and acceptable in FIFA.

                              Imagine a Madden in which the Patriots and Bills ran the ball with the same frequency, or an NBA 2K in which Stephen Curry shot threes as often as Eric Bledsoe or John Wall.

                              It wouldn't fly.

                              But it's somehow normal behavior in FIFA for teams and star players to play more or less the same.
                              I'll take FIFA's strenghts & weaknesses over Madden's any day. Sure, tendencies may be better in Madden, but the animations, interaction and general AI are far, far behind.

                              I don't know why either haven't addressed these issues, but I would think tendencies would be the easier challenge.
                              Shout out to The Watcher! Where you at bruh?

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