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  • RaychelSnr
    Executive Editor
    • Jan 2007
    • 4845

    #1

    Madden NFL 17: Gearing Up For A Big Season


    Madden NFL 17
    is coming out of EA Play in a fairly strong position with tons of gameplay videos being shown off as of early this week (check out the OS homepage for all of them). Let’s go through some of the things that are looking good, and a few things which we’re still a little concerned about after the jump.

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  • BruinsHockey08
    Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 65

    #2
    I am impressed that there was "The Bad" section in the article, that is promising in itself.

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    • ShaiLeGran
      Rookie
      • Aug 2014
      • 216

      #3
      I like what has been shown so far Madden-wise. Apart from gameplay, what I would really like to see to make the over package complete, are pre-, halftime and postgame shows a la NBA2K, real game intro's similar to what we see in NBA2K, player specific talk and stat overlays like NBA2K and when going to a timeout, more like what you see in NBA2K (players talking and drinking, the coach giving feedback). Oh and some player interviews like what we see in NBA2K would be amazing as well. Mmm a lot needs to be taken from NBA2K imho

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      • DeuceDouglas
        Madden Dev Team
        • Apr 2010
        • 4297

        #4
        Re: Madden NFL 17: Gearing Up For A Big Season

        The Good: Zones, Ball Physics, new equipment
        The Wait and See: Commentary, Special Teams
        The Bad: CFM
        The Ugly: Pass blocking

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        • BSchwartz07
          Rookie
          • Apr 2012
          • 88

          #5
          I'm very skeptical of this year's game. I say that because I don't think I've truly enjoyed a Madden game since 06.
          The "big decisions" feature seems to me like a gimmick. I'd prefer Madden '04 where you could follow positions battles for every team, and would see who was named the starter before the season starts. This feels to me like UFC2 where you get a pop up that says "your guy got hurt" then you have option A and option B... not a whole lot to it.
          As for the presentation, I don't get how almost every game out there is completely clueless with this. STOP trying to make some amazing EA sports network presentation. Just use CBS, FOX, and ESPN. Get the rights and seal the entire broadcast, you don't see them trying to make their own EA branded uniforms for teams, so why do that with the presentation? We get that EA makes the game, they make the ONLY football game out, I don't need their logo on every sign in the stadium, and on the broadcast ticker. On the last version of college basketball that EA made they used both CBS and ESPN presentations based on the game, even had different announcers in each broadcast. The game wasn't amazing, but the feel of the two different networks was great.
          I could go on... New high res coaches, but no assistant coaches and no realistic coaching carousel. So, play a franchise and half the coaches will just switch to another team by year 3 and the rest will be generic made up coaches that look awful... I have purchased Madden every year since 99, I think this may be the first one that I sit out. I blame 2K for making such dramatic improvements to NBA2K every year while madden adds 2 features from 5 years ago and touts them as new and improved.

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          • veguss2001
            Rookie
            • Jun 2009
            • 53

            #6
            I don't if it's enough to get excited for but it's enough for me to upgrade. Not sure if that will be day one.
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            • BezO
              MVP
              • Jul 2004
              • 4414

              #7
              Re: Madden NFL 17: Gearing Up For A Big Season

              Ehh, the bad section is a little lean. Tackling still looks bad and blocking interaction is terrible. Despite the addition of run fits, it appears they still haven't separated the offensive & defensive assignments. Defenders still look to engage prior to anything else. No working stunts. No separate coverage and blitz/stunt tiers. Running animations, especially changes in direction are still poor. They ignored some basic aspects of special teams despite the additions (gunner interaction, still pass blocking on FGs).

              But this is the best Madden has looked, considering year to year expectations, in a long, long time. I'm not as enthused as many others about this year's release, but for the 1st time in many years, I'm looking forward to future releases. I'm hopeful that Frostbite is the answer to a lot of the legacy issues.
              Shout out to The Watcher! Where you at bruh?

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              • Noonie13
                Rookie
                • Jul 2015
                • 9

                #8
                Originally posted by BSchwartz07
                I'm very skeptical of this year's game. I say that because I don't think I've truly enjoyed a Madden game since 06.
                The "big decisions" feature seems to me like a gimmick. I'd prefer Madden '04 where you could follow positions battles for every team, and would see who was named the starter before the season starts. This feels to me like UFC2 where you get a pop up that says "your guy got hurt" then you have option A and option B... not a whole lot to it.
                As for the presentation, I don't get how almost every game out there is completely clueless with this. STOP trying to make some amazing EA sports network presentation. Just use CBS, FOX, and ESPN. Get the rights and seal the entire broadcast, you don't see them trying to make their own EA branded uniforms for teams, so why do that with the presentation? We get that EA makes the game, they make the ONLY football game out, I don't need their logo on every sign in the stadium, and on the broadcast ticker. On the last version of college basketball that EA made they used both CBS and ESPN presentations based on the game, even had different announcers in each broadcast. The game wasn't amazing, but the feel of the two different networks was great.
                I could go on... New high res coaches, but no assistant coaches and no realistic coaching carousel. So, play a franchise and half the coaches will just switch to another team by year 3 and the rest will be generic made up coaches that look awful... I have purchased Madden every year since 99, I think this may be the first one that I sit out. I blame 2K for making such dramatic improvements to NBA2K every year while madden adds 2 features from 5 years ago and touts them as new and improved.
                WORD.
                But at least with NBA 2K, the presentation looks like true broadcast television. EA's entire take on presentation is completely fictional and overall arcade-y.

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                • MountaineersSon
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2015
                  • 106

                  #9
                  Re: Madden NFL 17: Gearing Up For A Big Season

                  Nice article. Always enjoy reading other takes.

                  I'm really struggling with the decision whether or not I should make this a day one purchase. Madden 16 was the first Madden I had bought new in years and I enjoyed it, especially being part of an online CFM that stayed together through a few seasons.

                  The gameplay seems about the same to me. I know they've improved the logic and upgraded AI assignments but I'm not really seeing it in the early gameplay videos. In 16 the toss plays destroyed me, I'm still seeing that in these videos. The defensive line play when going after the qb needs re-written. In passing situations defensive line should explode up field. No offensive lineman can be injured during gameplay. Huge downer. I like what I'm seeing from some of the new zone logic, lots of cool animations, still some hiccups though. I still think the players move weird, stiff, unlike any other sports game. Madden is behind the 8 ball in player movement. Same with QB throwing animations, not sure where that animation came from, it's ugly. Signature throwing animations, that's where is at. See MLB the show.

                  I'm a huge sim player so if I do make 17 a day one purchase it'll be because of the newly improved sim "play the moment" engine. I'll still be able to play a 32 team offline franchise, with play the moment I'll be able to speed up season play and this all includes improved stats realistic to NFL averages to total snaps per game. Pretty cool. Offensive lineman can be injured through simming, that takes the sting away some. It's important to have durable backups in the NFL, none more important than the offensive line.

                  Commentary, I'll check with it early, probably end up going back to the jams. Gotta have my music when playing video games. Kudos to the team making this big upgrade.

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                  • Cowboy008
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 4574

                    #10
                    Re: Madden NFL 17: Gearing Up For A Big Season

                    Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                    The Good: Zones, Ball Physics, new equipment
                    The Wait and See: Commentary, Special Teams
                    The Bad: CFM
                    The Ugly: Pass blocking
                    100% agree with this.

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                    • Dazraz
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 794

                      #11
                      Great article. Agreed on the commentary. EA have made such promises. As for the Franchise Mode Menus being refreshed, I'll just be happy if they were quick to navigate like NBA 2K. Madden NFL 15 is always a chore to get things done due to combination of a poor layout, weird logic & annoying pauses when switching screens.

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                      • Palm Bay Pro
                        Banned
                        • May 2016
                        • 158

                        #12
                        Re: Madden NFL 17: Gearing Up For A Big Season

                        Originally posted by DeuceDouglas

                        The Bad: CFM
                        This times a million. It is incomprehensible for me that a feature that was supposed to the main focus got so very little attention. Just adding a few new features and calling it "the deepest franchise mode ever" doesn't mean much to me. So many things were left out.....

                        -assistant coaches

                        -draft boards

                        -expansion teams

                        Just to name a few. All I have to say is smh Madden smh

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                        • howboutdat
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 1908

                          #13
                          Re: Madden NFL 17: Gearing Up For A Big Season

                          Originally posted by Dazraz
                          As for the Franchise Mode Menus being refreshed, I'll just be happy if they were quick to navigate like NBA 2K. Madden NFL 15 is always a chore to get things done due to combination of a poor layout, weird logic & annoying pauses when switching screens.

                          My question is, how many friggin times they gotta "redo menus" to get this stuff right? i mean dang , seems like they spend half their time every year " redoing menus" and it still comes out half clunky and meanwhile spending that time on something that should already be good and not touching things really needed.Yet some here want to say , we are being too negative . Give me a friggin break. Every year, they have to redo menus, meanwhile not adding alot else. Thanks , color me not impressed, sorry . I would be fired from my job already 3 years ago.

                          Originally posted by Palm Bay Pro
                          This times a million. It is incomprehensible for me that a feature that was supposed to the main focus got so very little attention. Just adding a few new features and calling it "the deepest franchise mode ever" doesn't mean much to me. So many things were left out.....

                          -assistant coaches

                          -draft boards

                          -expansion teams

                          Just to name a few. All I have to say is smh Madden smh

                          agree 100% - they hyped it up and it came out flat.Now we know the real reason why they waited till last to show it.

                          Also i wonder what is up with the EA CFM website, as John White has said he isnt ready to talk about it.They have not done any real upgrades to it for years now.We need more functioning to it. Knowing online leagues really need this and the functions it brings for our leagues, as well as it fuels DaddyLeagues , which is also an important part to many online leagues.
                          Yup, i said it !



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                          • ShaiLeGran
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 216

                            #14
                            My problem with Madden is that it feels very shallow, like it aint a complete package. FIFA, NBA2K and The Show do give me this feeling of being the complete package. There are so many things to do in those games, even digging around in the menu's is sort of fun. And lots of unlockables to play for. Madden doesnt have anything like this.

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                            • Benz87
                              #OwnTheFuture
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 1320

                              #15
                              Re: Madden NFL 17: Gearing Up For A Big Season

                              The most frightening thing i've seen in the gameplay clips thus far is pass blocking. There is more than one instance in gameplay videos of an o-lineman having a 1 on 1 with a d-lineman and simply letting him run by untouched to the QB. I understand these clips are "work in progress", but the development cycle is far enough in that I fear this may be a constant issue with this years title.
                              Last edited by Benz87; 06-22-2016, 01:53 PM.
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