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  • dta151
    Rookie
    • May 2014
    • 124

    #1

    Matt Carpenter nonsense

    Several things with this card are problems, 1st he is hurt and his rating has been raised to a 94 or 95 5 star everyday from inside edge. Injured players do not or should not be getting inside edge ratings adjustments. 2nd he has played primarily at 3rd base this year and still is listed as a 2B , if they moved him to 3B with his current ratings he would most likely drop to a silver 84 or 83 overall and the cardinals team collection would be super easy to do like the phillies and braves any team with no golds so they do not switch him. They lagged big time on lowering Rosenthal to a silver after he lost the closer job and was getting shelled before he became a silver and was still selling for 5k for weeks after he went silver. Finally that is why I think there is something secretly going on with the team sets that we complete that will come into play later in the game with new cards. SDS wants the Cards team set to stay somewhat hard to complete even though the reward is only a Jim Edmonds 90 who is a good player and card but not the most popular to where everyone is trying to do that set to get him which causes the Carpenter to stay at 10k. During the allstar break he was selling for 5-6k now he has gone up steadily to 9-10k while being injured for weeks now.
  • mjm76
    Rookie
    • May 2014
    • 102

    #2
    Re: Matt Carpenter nonsense

    Originally posted by dta151
    Several things with this card are problems, 1st he is hurt and his rating has been raised to a 94 or 95 5 star everyday from inside edge. Injured players do not or should not be getting inside edge ratings adjustments. 2nd he has played primarily at 3rd base this year and still is listed as a 2B , if they moved him to 3B with his current ratings he would most likely drop to a silver 84 or 83 overall and the cardinals team collection would be super easy to do like the phillies and braves any team with no golds so they do not switch him. They lagged big time on lowering Rosenthal to a silver after he lost the closer job and was getting shelled before he became a silver and was still selling for 5k for weeks after he went silver. Finally that is why I think there is something secretly going on with the team sets that we complete that will come into play later in the game with new cards. SDS wants the Cards team set to stay somewhat hard to complete even though the reward is only a Jim Edmonds 90 who is a good player and card but not the most popular to where everyone is trying to do that set to get him which causes the Carpenter to stay at 10k. During the allstar break he was selling for 5-6k now he has gone up steadily to 9-10k while being injured for weeks now.
    I am biased since I am a STL fan but Matt is currently injured but before he was injured he was playing at 2B all the time due to Peralta coming back and playing 3B due to Diaz having such a great rookie year at SS.

    I feel that Matt deserves his ratings has he is the heart and soul of the STL team! Just my opinion.

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    • mikeq672
      MVP
      • Mar 2010
      • 1761

      #3
      Re: Matt Carpenter nonsense

      Originally posted by dta151
      Several things with this card are problems, 1st he is hurt and his rating has been raised to a 94 or 95 5 star everyday from inside edge. Injured players do not or should not be getting inside edge ratings adjustments. 2nd he has played primarily at 3rd base this year and still is listed as a 2B , if they moved him to 3B with his current ratings he would most likely drop to a silver 84 or 83 overall and the cardinals team collection would be super easy to do like the phillies and braves any team with no golds so they do not switch him. They lagged big time on lowering Rosenthal to a silver after he lost the closer job and was getting shelled before he became a silver and was still selling for 5k for weeks after he went silver. Finally that is why I think there is something secretly going on with the team sets that we complete that will come into play later in the game with new cards. SDS wants the Cards team set to stay somewhat hard to complete even though the reward is only a Jim Edmonds 90 who is a good player and card but not the most popular to where everyone is trying to do that set to get him which causes the Carpenter to stay at 10k. During the allstar break he was selling for 5-6k now he has gone up steadily to 9-10k while being injured for weeks now.
      Matt Carpenter is one of the hitters in baseball. If they switch him to third hed still be a gold, as he deserves to be. Theres no conspiracy lol

      He probably dropped in price because he was in the captain store.

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      • dta151
        Rookie
        • May 2014
        • 124

        #4
        Re: Matt Carpenter nonsense

        There is no doubt he is the man on that team, and deserves to be a gold, but if you even look at your created DD player they are for me at least always rated highest at 2B and players in the past who have changed position have gone down whenever they get switched from 2B to any other position, Zobrist was one for example last year who got switched back and forth from 2B to SS to LF RF and like Cespedes going up 6 points just cause he got switched from CF to LF and Bryant earlier going Diamond from going back to 3B from LF or RF. My created player right now is a 92 at 2B and a 86 at 3B and he is still a silver 83 at CF. Im just saying if they for some reason move Carpenter to 3B where he has played more games at this year than at 2B he should drop from a 88 to a 84 or 83 based on how other players ratings have changed. I am saying I think that SDS has not done it for that reason, he deserves to be gold and the Cards set would have no golds and be easy to do. Easier to do, it is already easy as he is the only card worth over 1k. If the reward was a 95 Stan the man or Pujols all the cards in the set would sell for double what they do for a 90 Edmonds too. I would love to see a 99 Big Mac from the year he broke Maris record flashback. I would do that set immediately

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        • dta151
          Rookie
          • May 2014
          • 124

          #5
          Re: Matt Carpenter nonsense

          Originally posted by mikeq672
          Matt Carpenter is one of the hitters in baseball. If they switch him to third hed still be a gold, as he deserves to be. Theres no conspiracy lol

          He probably dropped in price because he was in the captain store.
          He wasnt in the captain store last week and your not getting the point, it's not a matter of if he deserves to be a gold or not. We agree he is a stud. We can say he is the best player in the game but if they keep his stats the same and switched him to 3B from 2B the way the game works his overall rating would drop. I have no clue why, I think it makes no sense but it is true. Same with CF. If a player gets moved from LF to CF they will go down. Cespedes ratings stayed the same but he got switched from CF to LF and raised from a 89 gold to a 95 diamond. Does he deserve it? Maybe but if he does then he should have been a 95 diamond when he was at CF his stat attributes were the same but he went from 89 gold to 95 diamond

          Edit: I don't remember him being in the captain store last week but I am not 100% sure, but that is still irrelevant to this issue of position changes
          Last edited by dta151; 07-20-2016, 11:16 PM.

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          • FloorGeneral
            Pro
            • Mar 2004
            • 567

            #6
            Re: Matt Carpenter nonsense

            When Peralta came back, they moved him (Carpenter) to 2B so that Diaz and Peralta could both stay in the lineup. Each position favors certain ratings over others, which is why his rating went from an 86 at 3B to an 88 at 2B. Higher power numbers are needed at 3B to get your rating up higher. Meanwhile, the power threshold is lower for 2B, which is why his overall went up 2 points just by switching, with no ratings changes. Same thing with Cespedes and his switch from CF to LF. Higher power numbers are valued more in corner OF spots, and will shoot your rating up quick.

            The Rosenthal situation has irritated me, as he's the last guy I need to finish them, and I refuse to pay even 500 for an 81, but that's a simple problem of limited market supply. There weren't that many of his card floating around to begin with, so when there's a limited supply of something, you're gonna have to pay a premium until enough get into circulation. That's the beauty of a free market.

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            • cardinalbird5
              MVP
              • Jul 2006
              • 2814

              #7
              Re: Matt Carpenter nonsense

              Carpenter is a 2b now..there is no conspiracy lol.

              The IE thing I can agree with though but everything else...naw he should not be no silver nor would he if he moved back to 3b. His attributes should honestly go up a bit since he is hitting over .300 vs RHP and shows good power vs LHP. He is one of the better players in the league, but he gets a lot of his value from OBP which does not translate to well in this game.

              You could also argue Carlos Martinez and Oh could be a gold and Diaz/Wayno should be close but they are not. SDS is just slow with the upgrades/downgrades.
              Last edited by cardinalbird5; 07-21-2016, 07:17 AM.
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              • BrandH
                Rookie
                • Feb 2007
                • 268

                #8
                Re: Matt Carpenter nonsense

                All you have to do find out what his rating for 3B would be is go to edit players and change his position. However even as a 3B he still would be a gold if none of his rating have changed this year. The first line in the following link is what his overall was as a 3B.



                Also it doesn't matter where a player played most of their games. Whatever position they are currently playing is what position SDS puts on the card 99% of the time. It matches with what ever position they are at in the current Online Play Now rosters.
                Last edited by BrandH; 07-21-2016, 10:21 AM.

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                • mikeq672
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 1761

                  #9
                  Re: Matt Carpenter nonsense

                  Originally posted by dta151
                  He wasnt in the captain store last week and your not getting the point, it's not a matter of if he deserves to be a gold or not. We agree he is a stud. We can say he is the best player in the game but if they keep his stats the same and switched him to 3B from 2B the way the game works his overall rating would drop. I have no clue why, I think it makes no sense but it is true. Same with CF. If a player gets moved from LF to CF they will go down. Cespedes ratings stayed the same but he got switched from CF to LF and raised from a 89 gold to a 95 diamond. Does he deserve it? Maybe but if he does then he should have been a 95 diamond when he was at CF his stat attributes were the same but he went from 89 gold to 95 diamond

                  Edit: I don't remember him being in the captain store last week but I am not 100% sure, but that is still irrelevant to this issue of position changes
                  I already told you he would still be a gold with a position change, Im not sure why youre not listening to that and youd rather think there is a massive conspiracy. Go to your rosters and edit his position if you dont believe me, he goes down to 86, still gold.

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                  • dta151
                    Rookie
                    • May 2014
                    • 124

                    #10
                    Re: Matt Carpenter nonsense

                    Originally posted by mikeq672
                    I already told you he would still be a gold with a position change, Im not sure why youre not listening to that and youd rather think there is a massive conspiracy. Go to your rosters and edit his position if you dont believe me, he goes down to 86, still gold.
                    I dont think its a conspiracy I just think if he gets changed to 3B his rating will drop and because that I feel they have left him at 2B so STL will have a gold player on the team. I just went to rosters and switched him to 3B and his rating only drops to 86 so he will still be a gold. His rating only goes down 2 points though and other players ratings have gone down 4-5 points when getting switched positions especially from 2B or to CF gone down 4-5 points

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                    • DanH35
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 2324

                      #11
                      Re: Matt Carpenter nonsense

                      He was gold to start the year even before he was moved to 2B. But it really shouldn't be an issue, as he is a 2B now and he'll be there when he gets back from injury unless something happens to Peralta.

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                      • dta151
                        Rookie
                        • May 2014
                        • 124

                        #12
                        Re: Matt Carpenter nonsense

                        Originally posted by DanH35
                        He was gold to start the year even before he was moved to 2B. But it really shouldn't be an issue, as he is a 2B now and he'll be there when he gets back from injury unless something happens to Peralta.
                        So you think Wong is benched over Peralta? I think it will be Wong vs righty Peralta vs Lefty and Carpenter moving back and forth depending on who is starting. With everyone basically having the same opinion of Carpenter being a stud and the best player on the team, as long as he stays at 2B on the game he will be a high stub value card. He has been a 94 or 95 rated inside edge for the last week so I might just have to buy a couple cause he is bound to go up and be a diamond when he comes back and plays well and even if he stays gold it wont be worth less then it is now
                        Last edited by dta151; 07-22-2016, 08:54 PM.

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                        • dta151
                          Rookie
                          • May 2014
                          • 124

                          #13
                          Re: Matt Carpenter nonsense

                          Unless he is in the new going to Cooperstown packs I am gonna get a couple to invest in but he could be in the packs cause we know he is headed to the HOF and if he is in the packs then his price will drop short term

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                          • TrainerMatt21
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 37

                            #14
                            Re: Matt Carpenter nonsense

                            Originally posted by dta151
                            Unless he is in the new going to Cooperstown packs I am gonna get a couple to invest in but he could be in the packs cause we know he is headed to the HOF and if he is in the packs then his price will drop short term


                            I'm gonna be that guy who has to say that by simply looking at Matt Carpenter's lifetime stats, I doubt highly that he reaches HoF.

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                            • Jonesy8642
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 28

                              #15
                              Re: Matt Carpenter nonsense

                              Originally posted by dta151
                              Unless he is in the new going to Cooperstown packs I am gonna get a couple to invest in but he could be in the packs cause we know he is headed to the HOF and if he is in the packs then his price will drop short term
                              Wow, is this what happens when one guy crushes a bomb off you to win a game.

                              Put in a lefty and you take away the power of his card. That's why they give you a bullpen. If he kills you in first two ABs then pitch better. Of all the cards out there right now, with some crazy FB cards you decide to go up in arms over Matt Carpenter...interesting

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