WWE 2K17 ONCE AGAIN Pinning system is Screwed!

[Razeart2422]

I'm not here to nitpick at the game. I'm loving everything so far. The ladder matches and the backstage brawls have me sold.

BUT.... I am going to be really sad if 2k doesn't fix the pinning system. What i mean is you shouldn't have the option to kick out at 1 or right before the 2 count (at 1.9) late in a match.

Here is one example: In backstage brawl video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMRo7nkUimw

John Cena is already in RED damage and Aj Styles goes to pin him twice. Both times, you can see that the pin circle(meter) has the option to kick out before the Referee counts one or even TWO! Why is that?!!! You can even hear the announcers say, "And he kicks out at two". It makes no sense... the referee didn't even slap his hand on the ground to count two.

It should give you 2 chances to kick out in between the 2 and 3 count. Like right at 2.2 and right at 2.8 or 2.9.


This makes me sad because last year we had the same problem. I don't want to go through another year of this. I mastered the kicking out meter in wwe 2k16. I would end up kicking out at the 1 count multiple times... even after being hit with a finisher.

Why would you have the option to kick out TWICE before the referree counts TWO? It makes no sense. Those are the little details that shouldn't go un-noticed.


PLEASE FIX THIS 2k.

You can give us the option to kick out at one. When the health bar is green or yellow but not, when its RED. PLEASE fix this!

P.S I hope the game is more difficult this year against the COMPUTER. WWE 2k16 became too easy after the first 3 days of playing it on LEGEND difficulty.

[Razeart2422]

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Here is another example: WWE 2k17 Sasha Banks vs Charlotte

Skip to the 43 second mark of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSm0U3oeu4

See how opponent getting pinned has RED Health bar and has TWO chances to kick out before the Referee even reaches the 2 count. You are basically given TWO chances to kick out at 1. And she was just hit with a FINISHER!!!!!

How can she possibly have two chances to kick out at one?
A FINISHER is supposed to be the strongest move. So why is it that after you are hit with a FINISHER you have so many chances to kick out before the 1 count? I could understand if you were given 2 chances AFTER the 2 count. But why BEFORE the 2 count and after a FINISHING MOVE?

Why? WHy? Why? It makes no sense.



Please fix this 2K.

[ksteward84]

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This isn't really a "dear developers" forum.

The first video looked fantastic, I'm glad the backstage / crowd fighting got added. Maybe it's just me, but the pinning system has never really bothered me that much. People sometimes kick out early. Probably not THAT often, but I'd rather have that system than the glitch in previous editions where the computer either kicked out at one specific point or you knew they wouldn't at all.

[Mercury112491]

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I think it should be a combination of the damage plus the move delivered. I hate when guys lose to a simple move like a regular suplex just because they're in the red.


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[PeoplesChampGB]

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I think it should be a combination of the damage plus the move delivered. I hate when guys lose to a simple move like a regular suplex just because they're in the red.


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Thats what FPW did so well. You could beat a guy down to almost critical, but you still had a better shot at beating him with a finisher than a normal move. The finisher, however, would have a greater chance of being countered than a regular move.

[SoundTheAlarm]

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I think it should be a combination of the damage plus the move delivered. I hate when guys lose to a simple move like a regular suplex just because they're in the red.


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Or when you'd have a great match only to lose on a stupid neck crank or some other BS submission because that meter was impossible, especially when you were in the red lol.

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[Razeart2422]

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I've been watching WWE Programming since the Attitude Era days. And I have never seen anyone kick out a the ONE count after a finisher. So we shouldn't have the option to kick out at ONE after a finisher at least. I understand having the option to kick out at one after regular moves. But not a Finisher!!!!

[PeoplesChampGB]

Re: WWE 2K17 ONCE AGAIN Pinning system is Screwed!

I've been watching WWE Programming since the Attitude Era days. And I have never seen anyone kick out a the ONE count after a finisher. So we shouldn't have the option to kick out at ONE after a finisher at least. I understand having the option to kick out at one after regular moves. But not a Finisher!!!!

Brock kicked out of an AA at 1 at Summerslam 2014.

[Razeart2422]

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It should be like this:

After being hit with Regular Move:
Can Kick out at 1 , 1.8, 2 or 2.5
(4 chances)

After being hit with a Signature Move:
Can kick out at 2,2.2 or 2.7
(3 chances)
The Rock's spinebuster should be considered a regular setup move, even though 2K sets it as his Signature.

After being hit with a Finisher:
Can Kick out at 2.9.
(1 Chance)

And I say ONE chance because I was able to kick out of Finishers multiple times in Wwe 2k16 even with the smallest little spot on the meter. On Legend Difficulty!
Maybe Legend Difficulty gives you ONE chance to kickout of Finishers and the lower difficulties give you 2 chances, after being hit with a finisher.

[Razeart2422]

Re: WWE 2K17 ONCE AGAIN Pinning system is Screwed!

Brock kicked out of an AA at 1 at Summerslam 2014.

Yeah. How rare is that though?

[Hyperballer21]

Re: WWE 2K17 ONCE AGAIN Pinning system is Screwed!

Brock kicked out of an AA at 1 at Summerslam 2014.

That would be where RESILIENCY kicks in.

[PeoplesChampGB]

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That would be where RESILIENCY kicks in.

You're changing the subject. I gave an example when he said he never saw it.

[Razeart2422]

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You're changing the subject. I gave an example when he said he never saw it.

Brock should be the only one who could kick out at one. Since he's the beast. But no one else should be kicking out at one after a finisher. That makes the wrestlers look weak. I'm sure WWE wouldn't have wrestlers kicking out at one... it would destroy the meaning of a FINISHER.

[NYJin2011tm]

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The meaning of finishers is ruined in today's wrestling anyway. Back in the day(for me the 80s) no one ever kicked out of a finisher. It actually meant something. It may have happen a few times(Warrior-Hogan?) but these days it happens all the time.


Does Brock know any moves besides a suplex or F5? His matches are always so boring.

[tt500]

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Yea brocks matches are so dam boring now. Dean Ambrose said he's a lazy ***, all his matches since coming back followed the same format. He gives a guy the German suplex, runs himself into a steel pole to sell him getting hurt, and ends with a f5.