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  • saybur
    Rookie
    • Feb 2014
    • 251

    #1

    Regression in 17

    So I started an offline CFM with the Bengals and simmed ahead to the offseason to check some stuff out. When I looked at the teams regression for the year I was speechless.

    AJ Green, now 29, is regressing because of "age." I'm talking -2 to speed, agi, acc, catch ratings. WTH? This can't be right.

    Geno Atkins, now 29, same thing. Losing points due to "age."

    Andy Dalton, now 29, same deal.

    None of this was because of a terrible year. Just age.

    Is this for real? Is this a known problem the dev's intend to address? Any word? If not this could really ruin CFM for me. I know we can edit players now, but I don't really want to have to police the entire league watching for ridiculous regression.

    Almost forgot. My backup linebackers are all losing PRC because they failed to reach 10 sacks on the year. BACKUP LB's. That has to be a bug, right?
  • BleedGreen710
    Eagles Fan
    • Oct 2012
    • 4025

    #2
    Re: Regression in 17

    that does sound concerning but i'll try and give EA the benefit of the doubt. can you not cancel the attribute losses by spending your XP? players usually do reach their ceiling by the time they hit 30. I'd imagine around that age you're spending XP to maintain your players ratings rather then improve them.

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    • SyncereBlackout
      Rookie
      • Aug 2014
      • 828

      #3
      Re: Regression in 17

      Originally posted by saybur
      So I started an offline CFM with the Bengals and simmed ahead to the offseason to check some stuff out. When I looked at the teams regression for the year I was speechless.



      AJ Green, now 29, is regressing because of "age." I'm talking -2 to speed, agi, acc, catch ratings. WTH? This can't be right.



      Geno Atkins, now 29, same thing. Losing points due to "age."



      Andy Dalton, now 29, same deal.



      None of this was because of a terrible year. Just age.



      Is this for real? Is this a known problem the dev's intend to address? Any word? If not this could really ruin CFM for me. I know we can edit players now, but I don't really want to have to police the entire league watching for ridiculous regression.



      Almost forgot. My backup linebackers are all losing PRC because they failed to reach 10 sacks on the year. BACKUP LB's. That has to be a bug, right?


      This is honestly good news to me. I'm actually very excited with the regression you're noting. Can you tell me how much XP green had at the end of the season and how much it would cost to replace the speed attributes he lost?

      Same question for geno and dalton.
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      • saybur
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        • Feb 2014
        • 251

        #4
        Re: Regression in 17

        AJ has 8,369 XP available without having spent any all year. One point into Speed costs 28,350. Acceleration 17,325. Nothing can seemingly be made up with XP.

        Does anyone seriously thing next season AJ Green will be slower, less agile, less quick, and unable to jump as well? Come on.

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        • Scott
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          • Jul 2002
          • 20032

          #5
          Re: Regression in 17

          Originally posted by saybur
          AJ has 8,369 XP available without having spent any all year. One point into Speed costs 28,350. Acceleration 17,325. Nothing can seemingly be made up with XP.

          Does anyone seriously thing next season AJ Green will be slower, less agile, less quick, and unable to jump as well? Come on.
          Well, he would be 30 next season, so you never know. Don't like it, edit the ratings.
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          • Yuss
            Rookie
            • Mar 2014
            • 375

            #6
            Re: Regression in 17

            Yeah its the new regression system they put in, no matter what team players will start declining due to age, performance and other reasons.

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            • SyncereBlackout
              Rookie
              • Aug 2014
              • 828

              #7
              Re: Regression in 17

              Originally posted by saybur
              AJ has 8,369 XP available without having spent any all year. One point into Speed costs 28,350. Acceleration 17,325. Nothing can seemingly be made up with XP.



              Does anyone seriously thing next season AJ Green will be slower, less agile, less quick, and unable to jump as well? Come on.


              Thanks. For me it's not about him regressing but adjusting XP sliders to give me or CFM users the ability to make enough XP to make a tough decision: regain speed or put the XP elsewhere.
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              • saybur
                Rookie
                • Feb 2014
                • 251

                #8
                Re: Regression in 17

                Originally posted by Scott
                Well, he would be 30 next season, so you never know. Don't like it, edit the ratings.
                He is 28 now. In my CFM after simming a year he is 29.

                Just in case someone thought it was because of his performance:

                87 catches, 1,264 yards, 14.5 avg, 14 TD's. And regressing. Even SPC dropped.

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                • Scott
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 20032

                  #9
                  Re: Regression in 17

                  Originally posted by saybur
                  He is 28 now. In my CFM after simming a year he is 29.

                  Just in case someone thought it was because of his performance:

                  87 catches, 1,264 yards, 14.5 avg, 14 TD's. And regressing. Even SPC dropped.
                  Well, still...He might have had a great season but most WRs do start declining around age 26-27...If you feel he doesn't deserve it, simply add them back.

                  Austin Lee digs into historical trends to tell you about the age that wide receivers' fantasy value plummets. Do you know which wideouts are on the brink of decline?
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                  • bad_philanthropy
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                    • Jul 2005
                    • 12167

                    #10
                    Re: Regression in 17

                    Originally posted by Scott
                    Well, still...He might have had a great season but most WRs do start declining around age 26-27...If you feel he doesn't deserve it, simply add them back.
                    Yeah, just look at Calvin Johnson. Was still kind of dominant, but a shred of his peak self. It's a short peak for football players.

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                    • Hooe
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 21555

                      #11
                      Re: Regression in 17

                      Originally posted by saybur
                      AJ has 8,369 XP available without having spent any all year. One point into Speed costs 28,350. Acceleration 17,325. Nothing can seemingly be made up with XP.

                      Does anyone seriously thing next season AJ Green will be slower, less agile, less quick, and unable to jump as well? Come on.
                      Out of curiosity / for completionist's sake - what about the costs for Awareness, Catching, Route Running, Catch In Traffic, Spectacular Catch, and Release?

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                      • saybur
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 251

                        #12
                        Re: Regression in 17

                        Perhaps a more gradual decline would make more sense to me. Everyone automatically losing 2 points in all of their physical attributes at the magical age of 29 just seems too generic for me. Lazy even.

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                        • Scott
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 20032

                          #13
                          Re: Regression in 17

                          Originally posted by CM Hooe
                          Out of curiosity / for completionist's sake - what about the costs for Awareness, Catching, Route Running, Catch In Traffic, Spectacular Catch, and Release?
                          To add on, what was AJ Green's rating before and what's it now?
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                          • jake44np
                            Post Like a Champion!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 9563

                            #14
                            Re: Regression in 17

                            Originally posted by saybur
                            So I started an offline CFM with the Bengals and simmed ahead to the offseason to check some stuff out. When I looked at the teams regression for the year I was speechless.

                            AJ Green, now 29, is regressing because of "age." I'm talking -2 to speed, agi, acc, catch ratings. WTH? This can't be right.

                            Geno Atkins, now 29, same thing. Losing points due to "age."

                            Andy Dalton, now 29, same deal.

                            None of this was because of a terrible year. Just age.

                            Is this for real? Is this a known problem the dev's intend to address? Any word? If not this could really ruin CFM for me. I know we can edit players now, but I don't really want to have to police the entire league watching for ridiculous regression.

                            Almost forgot. My backup linebackers are all losing PRC because they failed to reach 10 sacks on the year. BACKUP LB's. That has to be a bug, right?
                            Do you think they should get faster in their late 20's? Lol
                            I think the game finally got it perfect this year, they should get slower with age.
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                            • saybur
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 251

                              #15
                              Re: Regression in 17

                              Originally posted by CM Hooe
                              Out of curiosity / for completionist's sake - what about the costs for Awareness, Catching, Route Running, Catch In Traffic, Spectacular Catch, and Release?
                              AWR: 3,879
                              CTH: 6,176
                              RTE: 3,412
                              CIT: 6,615
                              SPC: 7,087
                              RLS: 3,219

                              Keep in mind he has SS dev.

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