whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

**Sajiky** · 08-27-2016, 04:34 AM

Re: whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

What do you mean by weather progression? Also if 0 - 25 - 50 - 75 - 100 are all that matters for skill sliders why would fatigue be any different?

**whosnext00** · 08-27-2016, 05:50 AM

Re: whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

Originally posted by Sajiky

What do you mean by weather progression? Also if 0 - 25 - 50 - 75 - 100 are all that matters for skill sliders why would fatigue be any different?

I mean day and night

You're right about fatigue but I haven't gotten there yet so decided to use Josh's solution for now.

**Playmakers** · 08-27-2016, 10:56 AM

Re: whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

Welcome back

I have a question for you are you seeing a crazy amount of one hand or spc catch animations with wr catch at 50 or higher?

It seems like by lowering the slider it not only provides more passes that are off target but it also seems to reduce the amount of one handed grab attempts and spc catches....

There's more natural looking catches when you go below 50 IMO.....

I'm close to some of those settings already using a pro level setup in favor of cpu to equal up the playing field and it's been coming along pretty good.....

Thanks for sharing your thread.....i will study your findings and see if i can implement them further on Pro level which is where i believe has underrated gameplay after some slider tweaks.

**Grandview2015** · 08-27-2016, 11:24 AM

Re: whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

I used 100 with Armor sliders wow!

I couldn't stop Denver on D. Ware and Miller played like Ware and Miller

Their CB's stayed with Hilton

You have to adjust playcalling. Denver should be a stud D. 100 lets the movements by CPU and OL not slow down

**Teleo** · 08-27-2016, 12:29 PM

Re: whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

Whosnext,

Glad you're back! The findings that you and playmakers did on QB chart back on Madden 12 was groundbreaking...On Madden 12, you developed your sliders for CPU vs CPU...will this year's sliders be for that style of play or for user vs cpu oriented?

**whosnext00** · 08-28-2016, 12:50 AM

Re: whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

Originally posted by Playmakers

Welcome back

I have a question for you are you seeing a crazy amount of one hand or spc catch animations with wr catch at 50 or higher?

It seems like by lowering the slider it not only provides more passes that are off target but it also seems to reduce the amount of one handed grab attempts and spc catches....

There's more natural looking catches when you go below 50 IMO.....

I'm close to some of those settings already using a pro level setup in favor of cpu to equal up the playing field and it's been coming along pretty good.....

Thanks for sharing your thread.....i will study your findings and see if i can implement them further on Pro level which is where i believe has underrated gameplay after some slider tweaks.

@Playmaker... WAZZUUUUUPPP!!!!

Actually no I haven't seen that with WR Catch above 50. It's very interesting about your Pro project, please post some stuff (in a new thread of course :-) )

My goal here is to hopefully keep default and use other adjustments to fix the issues. Right now I am seeing the best stats I have ever seen in Madden, I mean they're near perfect in nearly all aspects! My LBs are even getting proper amount of tackles lol

It appears that penalties directly affect how the game plays and they need to be adjusted anyway to get the proper amount which is 5-9 on average and about 1 Pass Interference every 3 games or so which you'll see with my Penalty set.

Anyway, cool to see you here and please do post your findings. I'll post my set soon because people are probably trying out the above settings without knowing all of my settings lol and thinking it's garbage.

Also I could be wrong about the 0, 25, 50, 75, 100 thing because it negates what we worked on with Madden 12 so it's simply a guess at this point but an educated guess as I'm a developer as well. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of it but I hate when people downvote threads when they don't know what they're talking about.

**whosnext00** · 08-28-2016, 12:54 AM

Re: whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

Originally posted by Teleo

Whosnext,

Glad you're back! The findings that you and playmakers did on QB chart back on Madden 12 was groundbreaking...On Madden 12, you developed your sliders for CPU vs CPU...will this year's sliders be for that style of play or for user vs cpu oriented?

Well I always develop my sliders starting with CPU vs CPU because it provides an even playing field on all fronts and it's impossible to compensate for everyones playing styles and skill levels. This year I"m focused on realism.

**PhiPsi1** · 08-29-2016, 08:00 PM

Re: whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

@whosnext00 -

Do you by chance twitch your games? Would be great to see a broadcast of one of your games on twitch if you do....especially w/ your suggestion of 100 Threshold....

**Brooke2011** · 08-30-2016, 12:29 AM

Re: whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

Great breakdown of sliders. One question though. If all pro is too easy (50/50) and all madden is too hard ( 25/75) is it correct to say that a 40/60 might be just right . so would that simply mean putting all values at 40 (human) and 60 for CPU.

**whosnext00** · 08-30-2016, 04:46 AM

Re: whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

Originally posted by PhiPsi1

@whosnext00 -

Do you by chance twitch your games? Would be great to see a broadcast of one of your games on twitch if you do....especially w/ your suggestion of 100 Threshold....

Sorry I don't have the equipment for it but would love too.

**thenamesfuller** · 08-30-2016, 04:51 AM

Re: whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

Originally posted by whosnext00

Sorry I don't have the equipment for it but would love too.

You don't need a Kinect to broadcast. Just a twitch account. I was broadcasting a different slider set (armor and Swords) But the game is glitchy. It keeps freezing every now and again on play the moment in slow mode. Causing me to reboot Madden, thankfully it saves the game. It's happened twice now in one game. Gotten to the point where I'm sick of restarting the broadcast.
I'm doing a 32 team league. I hope they fix this.

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**whosnext00** · 08-30-2016, 04:54 AM

Re: whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

Originally posted by Brooke2011

Great breakdown of sliders. One question though. If all pro is too easy (50/50) and all madden is too hard ( 25/75) is it correct to say that a 40/60 might be just right . so would that simply mean putting all values at 40 (human) and 60 for CPU.

In theory yes that would be correct assuming that my slider breakdown is correct. These are obviously educated guesses as while I'm a developer, I'm not a developer of Madden.

Another theory proposes that All Pro for example has a Total when you add up the sliders so you can adjust the sliders to any value as long as you keep the total, so if you take 5 points away from QBA then you have to add it to something else otherwise the difficulty changes. This seems to keep the game balanced instead of introducing weird gameplay by having unrelated totals.

I have tested this on the slider set I'm working on right now and it appears to work for the sliders when you go in the Player Skill menu. You wouldn't be counting Penalty, Injuries, etc as they're in a different menu and unrelated to the difficulty level.

**whosnext00** · 08-30-2016, 04:55 AM

Re: whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

Originally posted by thenamesfuller

You don't need a Kinect to broadcast. Just a twitch account. I was broadcasting a different slider set (armor and Swords) But the game is glitchy. It keeps freezing every now and again on play the moment in slow mode. Causing me to reboot Madden, thankfully it saves the game. It's happened twice now in one game. Gotten to the point where I'm sick of restarting the broadcast.
I'm doing a 32 team league. I hope they fix this.

Sent from my Z828 using Tapatalk

I had the same issue until I turned off accessibility settings. Make sure the eye icon in the bottom left does not appear.

**thenamesfuller** · 08-30-2016, 05:19 AM

Re: whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

Originally posted by whosnext00

I had the same issue until I turned off accessibility settings. Make sure the eye icon in the bottom left does not appear.

I hate that icon anyways, was wondering what it stood for. Thanks.

Sent from my Z828 using Tapatalk

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