Some observations on QB accuracy

[bdubbs]

So I've tried a few of the sliders on the board here and looked around the threads and I'm starting to notice something lately I haven't seen talked about.

I decided for now just to run a franchise with all pro sliders and see how many single season records I can break with my Steelers, and after a few games I'm starting to feel like QB accuracy is more about pressure than anything else. Throws to the sideline are much more likely to miss entirely, and receivers seem much more likely to drop a pass.

I don't know if that's going to do anyone good but its something to consider when trying to figure out how to directly influence QB completion %

[Playmakers]

Re: Some observations on QB accuracy

Ea has never got this right IMO

There are QB's on college and pro level that throw a few errant or off target passes even without pressure in their face.

Madden has never been able to replicate this type of randomness without us going to extreme measures with the sliders.

Believe it or not you can still make quite a few accurate throws even with qba at 0 and if you raise the wr catch slider it boost up your comp percentage even at 0 qba which makes me believe catching is the biggest influence on accuracy not the passing slider

Higher catching warps wrs to the ball so no pases will appear to be off target that much

[Sgexpat]

Re: Some observations on QB accuracy

Does anyone know what the actual impact of the accuracy slider is? Does it make the QB randomly miss more or does it increase the impact of pressure / distance on inaccuracy percentage?

The reason is I'm working with a slider set (using joshc as a base for testing) to try and increase fluidity and pressure generated by the DL (esp. making 4 man rush stress the QB an appropriate amount), and when I get consistent pressure the QB seems to lose his ish, throws dump offs constantly / missing a ton and does not look downfield the way we know the CPU *can* do.

Wondering if I have a set that gives alot of pressure, is moving the CPU QB up, e.g. to 75 etc (would have to test the magnitude of effect) a viable solution for getting the CPU to look downfield a bit even in the teeth of the pass rush ?

[timhere1970]

Re: Some observations on QB accuracy

Does anyone know what the actual impact of the accuracy slider is? Does it make the QB randomly miss more or does it increase the impact of pressure / distance on inaccuracy percentage?

The reason is I'm working with a slider set (using joshc as a base for testing) to try and increase fluidity and pressure generated by the DL (esp. making 4 man rush stress the QB an appropriate amount), and when I get consistent pressure the QB seems to lose his ish, throws dump offs constantly / missing a ton and does not look downfield the way we know the CPU *can* do.

Wondering if I have a set that gives alot of pressure, is moving the CPU QB up, e.g. to 75 etc (would have to test the magnitude of effect) a viable solution for getting the CPU to look downfield a bit even in the teeth of the pass rush ?

I think you are correct. Low accuracy makes the qb a dinker. Instead Of Having A Lower COMPLETION PERCENTAGE He Just Throws ShORT passes, esecIALLY If He Has Low Deep accuracy. Would love to see some testing at 75 with average yards per completion comparisons.

[Sgexpat]

Re: Some observations on QB accuracy

I think you are correct. Low accuracy makes the qb a dinker. Instead Of Having A Lower COMPLETION PERCENTAGE He Just Throws ShORT passes, esecIALLY If He Has Low Deep accuracy. Would love to see some testing at 75 with average yards per completion comparisons.

Well I'm gonna try this now , won't be scientific as it's just one game but want to see if any big difference.

Www.twitch.tv/apocrylle if anyone is interested

[timhere1970]

Re: Some observations on QB accuracy

Well I'm gonna try this now , won't be scientific as it's just one game but want to see if any big difference.

Www.twitch.tv/apocrylle if anyone is interested

Great. Check the accuracy of the qb, short, medium and deep. I think there may be a number on their accuracy that once the slider goes to low makes them know those passes will not work.

[Sgexpat]

Re: Some observations on QB accuracy

Great. Check the accuracy of the qb, short, medium and deep. I think there may be a number on their accuracy that once the slider goes to low makes them know those passes will not work.

Unfortunately it was Colt McCoy... I had a big early lead so was in prevent-style defense - he did finish with 315 yards on 50 attempts (70 pct or so completioin) but alot of that was the flat or underneath stuff I was giving away for free +YAC on a few.

That was CPU QB accuracy 75. I will try another game tomorrow and see what's up.

[rich8682]

Re: Some observations on QB accuracy

Check out my sliders for realistic qb accuracy. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...d.php?t=887969

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[Playmakers]

Re: Some observations on QB accuracy

It's not just the qba slider that effects diwn field throwing attempts...

Pass Coverage for human player plays a role as well....cpu qb in madden can be tricked into throwing deep more often when COVERAGE is set lower because their awareness rating then kicks in on those deep routes

I have a set with qba at 65 vs pass coverage 45 and qba 50 vs pass coverage 0 and on both sets teddy Bridgewater took several deep shots down the field even with a few thrown into coverage that led to INT's

I think the accuracy issues only reside with the human sliders it is way too overpowering on any level out of the box and it's been that way for years.

[Sgexpat]

Re: Some observations on QB accuracy

Turning CPU QB accuracy up a ton does not make the CPU go deep. Confirmed.

[OhMrHanky]

Re: Some observations on QB accuracy

It's not just the qba slider that effects diwn field throwing attempts...



Pass Coverage for human player plays a role as well....cpu qb in madden can be tricked into throwing deep more often when COVERAGE is set lower because their awareness rating then kicks in on those deep routes



I have a set with qba at 65 vs pass coverage 45 and qba 50 vs pass coverage 0 and on both sets teddy Bridgewater took several deep shots down the field even with a few thrown into coverage that led to INT's



I think the accuracy issues only reside with the human sliders it is way too overpowering on any level out of the box and it's been that way for years.

Yeah. It's always interesting how some sliders affect things. And, of course, it's a video game. It has to follow rules. And, all these dice rolls have to factor in more than one thing, so for things like getting the CPU QB to throw the ball a certain way, it is a combo of QB acc, hum pass coverage, etc. I'm still messing with a set of overall sliders, and I didn't really think about the las coverage thing. But, for various reasons, I set hum pass coverage to 47, and after reading this post, I realized my recent games had the CPU throwing a few bombs, and that felt 'fresh' or new to the game. So, maybe pass cov is one of the more important ones to help with that. And, it doesn't mean they're completed, either, which is the good thing. Lowering pass cov doesn't always equal 'worse coverage', so these are the tricky things to figure out when slidering (which also makes it a total pain in the ***. lol)


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