Kicking need changed.

[Kentaurus]

Okay so we all know about the new mechanics for kicking, and while I don't mind trying to change things up as kicking was ridiculously easy in the past the new system just doesn't work.

Offline guys will say "you just aren't good at it yet" great, thanks, I can nail 57 yarder one after another in practice mode, not a problem. The issue comes with online play, any bit of lag and you are horribly likely to push/pull a kick, especially long ones.

Just looking at my CFM (32 user league) we are kicking 61.6% on FG attempts, and 78.6% on PAT attempts. These numbers come in way too low, even for guys still maybe learning the system a little bit.

The issue isn't entirely the design 3 click systems have worked for years, I think the MLB franchise has used them for pitching forever, and is still doing fine. The implementation though is horribly off, the sad part is the old system would have been fine, the analog kicking wasn't a bad concept, they just needed to make accuracy more precise rather than allowing players to miss the upward motion badly and still get off good kicks.

Not sure where to go for them with this, but it needs a change, and it needs to be in this madden to make kicking better.

TL;DR
Kicking is bad online because of even small amounts lag.
Needs to be changed; suggestions?

[wordtobigbird]

Re: Kicking need changed.

So the issue isn't really the kicking or the meter, it's the lag.

[Kentaurus]

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So the issue isn't really the kicking or the meter, it's the lag.

It is the combination of the two. And seeing how lag issues are not going to be fixed, the meter is what does need fixed.

[Goose26]

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So you're saying the lag is the main problem, since you seem to not have any issues kicking offline, and then you go on to say the meter is the problem by virtue of "lag issues are not going to be fixed" (since you apparently know this is a fact)?

Hmm....

[theycallmeyango]

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I've gotten pretty good at this but i'm with you op I enjoyed the old kicking more and definitely didn't see the need to go away from the sticks just to make it more NFL accurate. For instance NCAA 14 if you had a low rated kicker in that game every kick was an adventure so it is possible to get realistic results that way too.

overall though even beyond kicking the number one thing that keeps me from loving the game is the move to buttons over the joysticks. As soon as I make contact with a defender the game tells me to hit a button as soon as I catch a pass the game tells me to hit a button when in both of those situations all I want to do is juke or truck someone with the stick like I've always done.

I know I'm a dinosaur but using the sticks for as many different things as possible just feels more like playing football to me.

[underdog13]

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I know I'm a dinosaur but using the sticks for as many different things as possible just feels more like playing football to me.

Clicking X is the old way of kicking though...

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[Freakywwe]

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Had no problems kicking offline or online

[Greencollarbaseball]

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I thought kicking was supposed to be done user side and then play out. They said it was to make it lag free. Is this not the case?


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[Bigg Cee]

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I lost a game on a last second field goal from 29 yards in a online ranked match becuase of nasty lag. Nothin like watching my kick meter skip while trying to get it in the black box. 0-3 all game with field goals and 1 missed PAT. Same with my opponent, 1-3 and 1 missed PAT and kickoff kicked out of bounds. I like the new meter but HATE IT FOR ONLINE GAMEPLAY.

[Kentaurus]

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I thought kicking was supposed to be done user side and then play out. They said it was to make it lag free. Is this not the case?


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This would be great, I am pretty sure this is how MLB The Show is done with it's pitch meter, but I'm pretty sure that it is not the case in madden. As the last poster said he missed a FG due to lag, I know I ruined a kickoff today (though that actually turned out good) because of lag, I've watched in some of the streams of our CFM where people atrociously miss as well. So i'm pretty confident it is not done user side, or somewhere there is at least some sort of disconnect.

Again I'll restate, I don't think the analog was bad, they just gave it crazy good accuracy, if they made that style even near as touchy as this kick meter is, they would have got the same result.

[El Generico]

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Another case of people wanting something nerfed or removed because they are either:

a. just not good at it
b. want the old, unsim, 100% field goals made

The new kicking is FANTASTIC. I still hit 85-90% of my field goals, which would be high in the NFL, but is actually sim. I love it. I hope nothing is changed with kicking.

[BleedGreen710]

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Another case of people wanting something nerfed or removed because they are either:

a. just not good at it
b. want the old, unsim, 100% field goals made

no, he's not making that case at all. he's complaining about the lag when playing online.

[El Generico]

Re: Kicking need changed.

no, he's not making that case at all. he's complaining about the lag when playing online.

Not at first, until it was called out.

And as someone who's played hundreds of games of Madden online over the last few years, I rarely have any lag. I have a good connection and rarely have an issue.

This year, I can never hit my kicks dead center on the kick arc, but I still rarely miss a kick.

People should practice with what they have and get better instead of calling for EA to change every little thing.

[therealsmallville]

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Kicking isn't something that needs "fixed" because it's not broken. The lag, however, should be worked on.

Hard to blame the game mechanics for an online issue though, because per the OP if there was zero lag then kicking wouldn't be a problem. In the past, I missed FG's with the old meter due to lag too & being unable to hit full power. It wasn't the fault of the game mechanics though.


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[charter04]

Re: Kicking need changed.

I was struggling a lot at first in games online but, I practiced and got the timing down and now I'm nailing most all kicks.

You can not let the power meter go to high on your kick. Hit it right at the beginning or before the green on most kicks. Hit it earlier on really short kicks.

Then when it's coming back to the accuracy click it's more forgiving and easy to time.

I agree it's harder online but, I've got it down.

The game has been out less than two weeks. People need to practice the new stuff instead of calling for it to be changed.

By the way the "new" kick meter is the "old school" way. They just brought it back. It was this way on some 360 versions and PS2 and before that.


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