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BL8001 09-08-2016 12:58 PM

PES 2017 impressions
 
Here is a twitch feed of the retail game. It's not me. Found it looking around twitch.

https://www.twitch.tv/ghetto_gamer_ksa

bredfan 09-08-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BL8001 (Post 2048407680)
Here is a twitch feed of the retail game. It's not me. Found it looking around twitch.

https://www.twitch.tv/ghetto_gamer_ksa

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, when it comes to sports games, I feel like watching someone else play is a difficult way to tell how the game plays in general.

Videos are good to see animations and stuff like that, but unless you have the controller in your hand there's no way to tell how it'll "feel".

RoyceDa59 09-09-2016 02:49 PM

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Nice video here.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qtcxTX8i9rI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

PeruvianPlaya954 09-09-2016 03:02 PM

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Just played my first game with Peru. I set the difficulty to Top Player, forgot to slow down the game speed so it was at 0, and played Argentina.

Game was fun, but not very realistic in the sense of how it ended.

I won, 4-1, and it was 4-0 until a late volley from Messi. I finished with 54 percent possession to Argentina's 46, I had 84% pass completion to Argentina's 80, and I had 20 shots (9 on target) compared to 4 (3).

What can I do to make it tougher? Just bump up the difficulty?

PAPERNUT 09-09-2016 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PeruvianPlaya954 (Post 2048412193)
What can I do to make it tougher? Just bump up the difficulty?

Bump it up to Superstar as that seems to be the best from the demo. Any chance you could post foul totals you get and what minute halves you are playing on going forward? Jealous. :waytogo:

PeruvianPlaya954 09-09-2016 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PAPERNUT (Post 2048412216)
Bump it up to Superstar as that seems to be the best from the demo. Any chance you could post foul totals you get and what minute halves you are playing on going forward? Jealous. :waytogo:

Oops, meant to do that.

I committed nine fouls and earned six yellows (I kept sliding thinking I could get away with PES2016 murder) and Argentina committed five fouls and earned three yellows.

I played a 15-min game.

PeruvianPlaya954 09-09-2016 04:06 PM

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One question I have for those who might know: Why did they switch the form arrow colors? It confuses me now to see a red slightly down arrow. The way they had it before worked for me.

Any ideas?

RoyceDa59 09-09-2016 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PeruvianPlaya954 (Post 2048412486)
One question I have for those who might know: Why did they switch the form arrow colors? It confuses me now to see a red slightly down arrow. The way they had it before worked for me.

Any ideas?

Not sure why they changed it as well but it seems like they just flipped what each color represents now (Red now means they are in the worst form).

PeruvianPlaya954 09-09-2016 07:14 PM

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Second game played on Superstar. I again used Peru and faced Brazil in the Maracana. I won 2-0.

Possession #s: Peru 55, Brazil 45
Shots: Peru 8, Brazil 9
Shots on Target: Peru 4, Brazil 7
Fouls: Peru 7, Brazil 1
Yellow Cards: Peru 5 (one double yellow leading to a red), Brazil 0

PeruvianPlaya954 09-09-2016 07:48 PM

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And my first loss. Using Peru, I took a 5-2 loss to Chile. Wasn't even close. Alexis Sanchez dominated his flank and scored twice. Vidal also scored a SCORCHER that I might just have to upload onto here. Left my jaw on the floor.

Possession #s: Peru 49, Chile 51
Shots: Peru 14, Chile 17
Shots on Target: Peru 5, Chile 8
Fouls: Peru 4, Chile 5
Yellow Cards: Peru 2, Chile 0

Don't know if it was the rain or what, but this game felt really fast. Going to knock game speed down to -1 for the next one.

phillyfan23 09-09-2016 08:53 PM

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What kind of pass assist are u using??


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rckabillyRaider 09-09-2016 09:27 PM

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Just picked up my copy, ps4. Will play a few games in a bit once I get home.

BL8001 09-09-2016 10:08 PM

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Any info on what teams are in the other section? The area with the extra champions league or europa teams.

Konami did not have that team section listed on their site.

Usually zenit, club brugge, the german sides, etc are in this area

rckabillyRaider 09-10-2016 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BL8001 (Post 2048413714)
Any info on what teams are in the other section? The area with the extra champions league or europa teams.

Konami did not have that team section listed on their site.

Usually zenit, club brugge, the german sides, etc are in this area

Brugge, Dinamo Zagreb, Leverkusen, Dortmund, schalke, cska moskva, basel, besiktas, dynamo kyiv, and the rest are fake teams in Other Europe, total of 30.

For those that asked in the other threads, there is a fake Libertadores.

rckabillyRaider 09-10-2016 02:57 AM

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In regards to edit mode and option files, I don't see any way of importing the edit file. So we still would have to name all the competitions /cups ourselves and assign the appropriate logos.

Gameplay has been great so far. Fouls are definitely being called. Some obvious fouls have been missed but then some questionable soft fouls have been called. I like that randomness to it. Keepers are better as well. I can't really compare much to last year since I gave up on it very quickly last year and stuck with FIFA.

PAPERNUT 09-10-2016 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rckabillyRaider (Post 2048414240)
Gameplay has been great so far. Fouls are definitely being called. Some obvious fouls have been missed but then some questionable soft fouls have been called. I like that randomness to it. Keepers are better as well. I can't really compare much to last year since I gave up on it very quickly last year and stuck with FIFA.

What are you seeing as far as the average for fouls between you and the CPU per game? How many minute halves are you playing? Do you feel AI teams are using tactics to play like themselves in real life or?

rckabillyRaider 09-10-2016 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PAPERNUT (Post 2048414718)
What are you seeing as far as the average for fouls between you and the CPU per game? How many minute halves are you playing? Do you feel AI teams are using tactics to play like themselves in real life or?

I played a few games, 10 minutes, and in all of them the cpu was called for more fouls than me. Some didn't go on the stat sheet cuz advantage was played. It's been around 5-7 fouls combined.

Can't tell if the teams play like in real life because I'm playing the Asian champions league and I'm not familiar with the clubs. I can say that the teams have played differently in each game though.

PeruvianPlaya954 09-10-2016 03:08 PM

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I don't know what it is, but something's not right for me. The game is lots of fun, but I can't find the good, sim-like balance that I'm looking for.

I just played my fourth game as Peru vs. Uruguay, on -1 speed and superstar difficulty. I won, 1-0.

Possession: Peru 66, Uruguay 34
Shots: Peru 13, Uruguay 8
Shots on Target: Peru 7, Uruguay 5
Fouls: Peru 1, Uruguay 1
Pass completed: Peru 84 percent, Uruguay 67 percent

I might have to knock down the pass accuracy to -1, as some have suggested, but something else I've found is that the CBs and defenders in general seem to win a lot of their tackles in their defensive third, killing the danger of the attacking team. Like last year, if you mistimed a tackle, you'd be punished with a goal. Not seeing that anywhere nearly as much this year. At least not yet.

rckabillyRaider 09-10-2016 03:47 PM

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playing on professional so far while I get more used to it. I've had a wide range of scores which I like. 1-1, 2-1, 3-3, 4-0, 1-0. Still seeing decent number of fouls. I think that's legit now.....fouls are called consistently. Another little positive I've noticed is that the players don't get dazed and freeze for like 1-2 seconds after simple tackles like before. It's been drastically cut down and more realistic.

phillyfan23 09-10-2016 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PeruvianPlaya954 (Post 2048415285)
I don't know what it is, but something's not right for me. The game is lots of fun, but I can't find the good, sim-like balance that I'm looking for.

I just played my fourth game as Peru vs. Uruguay, on -1 speed and superstar difficulty. I won, 1-0.

Possession: Peru 66, Uruguay 34
Shots: Peru 13, Uruguay 8
Shots on Target: Peru 7, Uruguay 5
Fouls: Peru 1, Uruguay 1
Pass completed: Peru 84 percent, Uruguay 67 percent

I might have to knock down the pass accuracy to -1, as some have suggested, but something else I've found is that the CBs and defenders in general seem to win a lot of their tackles in their defensive third, killing the danger of the attacking team. Like last year, if you mistimed a tackle, you'd be punished with a goal. Not seeing that anywhere nearly as much this year. At least not yet.



U neee to knock down pass assist to 0, above it it's just too easy, at least thats how infelt in the demo. Looks like u're using pass assist 2, could be why.


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PeruvianPlaya954 09-10-2016 05:04 PM

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Okay, so I switched teams to get a different feel. I used Real Madrid and played Liverpool.

I won 7-1. Four goals from Ronaldo, and four in the game from him and other players were headers.

Liverpool had nine shots and four on target, and they committed three fouls.

PeruvianPlaya954 09-10-2016 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by phillyfan23 (Post 2048415583)
U neee to knock down pass assist to 0, above it it's just too easy, at least thats how infelt in the demo. Looks like u're using pass assist 2, could be why.


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How do you finetune that?

PeruvianPlaya954 09-10-2016 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PeruvianPlaya954 (Post 2048415621)
How do you finetune that?

Think I found it. On default it was at 1, and I knocked it down to 0.

Afterwards, play as Man Utd against Inter. I lost, 4-1, and finished with a 65 percent pass completed. Eek.

PeruvianPlaya954 09-10-2016 06:17 PM

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Just played with Peru vs. Ecuador, and gave up a last-second goal to lose 1-0.

Ecuador's pass completion was 67 and mine was 63.

phillyfan23 09-10-2016 06:19 PM

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Looks like it was a simple fix for you peruvianplaya


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SilverChaosVII 09-12-2016 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PeruvianPlaya954 (Post 2048413208)
Second game played on Superstar. I again used Peru and faced Brazil in the Maracana. I won 2-0.

Possession #s: Peru 55, Brazil 45
Shots: Peru 8, Brazil 9
Shots on Target: Peru 4, Brazil 7
Fouls: Peru 7, Brazil 1
Yellow Cards: Peru 5 (one double yellow leading to a red), Brazil 0

Manual passing and shooting and -1 game speed. Will give you the most realistic play.

BL8001 09-12-2016 12:32 PM

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Is there a real team of players with a fake name and kit that is Bayern?

Man U is in the prem with a fake kit and Juve is in serie A with a fake kit.

Just not sure how they handled Bayern.

RoyceDa59 09-12-2016 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BL8001 (Post 2048420403)
Is there a real team of players with a fake name and kit that is Bayern?

Man U is in the prem with a fake kit and Juve is in serie A with a fake kit.

Just not sure how they handled Bayern.

Unfortunately no, so we won't see anybody using Bayern-like team online. Most of the team is on the German National squad so they can be easily assembled but there are a few players missing like Lewandowski.

PAPERNUT 09-12-2016 12:58 PM

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In some miracle, my copy just arrived. I live in the sticks, so typically I get my games days after release, but Best Buy and USPS came thru for once. Now to suffer thru work till I can play it....

BL8001 09-12-2016 01:43 PM

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Amazing. I ordered from BB too and nothing yet. Mail came already. Opened the mailbox slowly hoping for the "best" but nothing but junk mail.

Checking my online order it still says preparing your item for shipping

Inter1 09-12-2016 01:55 PM

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Glad to see a bunch of you getting it a day early for impressions. I am getting it tomorrow on PS4, and loved the demo. I didn't change any of the settings in the game, but what settings MUST be changed to have the most sim feel to the game? Im going to be playing on top player for a while before moving up to Superstar. -1 game speed and manual passing is the way to go?

RoyceDa59 09-12-2016 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Inter1 (Post 2048420622)
Glad to see a bunch of you getting it a day early for impressions. I am getting it tomorrow on PS4, and loved the demo. I didn't change any of the settings in the game, but what settings MUST be changed to have the most sim feel to the game? Im going to be playing on top player for a while before moving up to Superstar. -1 game speed and manual passing is the way to go?

I would say if you enjoying it on the default settings you might as well keep on keeping on. :) Personally for me I find manual passing and shooting with -1 Speed on Top Player the most enjoyable for me.

PAPERNUT 09-12-2016 02:17 PM

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I got one game in on my lunch break. Never thought I would say a soccer game was playing too slow, but on -2 it seems to be. Perhaps default or -1 is the way to go. Did they remove CPU vs CPU as I was hoping to watch games while working, but see no option for it?

Josam27o7 09-12-2016 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PAPERNUT (Post 2048420693)
I got one game in on my lunch break. Never thought I would say a soccer game was playing too slow, but on -2 it seems to be. Perhaps default or -1 is the way to go. Did they remove CPU vs CPU as I was hoping to watch games while working, but see no option for it?

Sweet! I am gonna like it!

ezio 09-12-2016 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PAPERNUT (Post 2048420693)
I got one game in on my lunch break. Never thought I would say a soccer game was playing too slow, but on -2 it seems to be. Perhaps default or -1 is the way to go. Did they remove CPU vs CPU as I was hoping to watch games while working, but see no option for it?

I always though -2 was too slow to be honest. I will either play on default or -1

Josam27o7 09-12-2016 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ezio (Post 2048421102)
I always though -2 was too slow to be honest. I will either play on default or -1

Really, bc I think -2 is still too fast. Would you be frustrated by a game with full-footplanting, super slow? If you are, gaming has a bleak future.

RoyceDa59 09-12-2016 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Josam27o7 (Post 2048421730)
Really, bc I think -2 is still too fast. Would you be frustrated by a game with full-footplanting, super slow? If you are, gaming has a bleak future.

Different strokes for different folks, I have a friend who thinks the default setting is too slow and plays on +1 & 2 speed.

BSDShoes 09-12-2016 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RoyceDa59 (Post 2048421738)
Different strokes for different folks, I have a friend who thinks the default setting is too slow and plays on +1 & 2 speed.

Yeah I was watching a Twitch stream from a guy in China playing master league and his pace was so fast, I think he had it at +2 and he was pretty damn good too.

PAPERNUT 09-12-2016 08:56 PM

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Got 3 full games in 15 min halves. I used to think all PES games were too fast, but they nailed the speed this year. Fouls are much better than I expected. Still wish we had a few more calls and a bit more physicality, but it is nowhere near as bad as last years game. If you liked the demo, you will like the release version as nothing has changed. Only issues I see at this point are the goalie saves or parry that fall directly to someone for an easy put back. Besides that, I have no issues with the goalies this year or the rest of the back line defense as it seems very solid. I love the corner kick strategies you can select between on off or def during kicks. :o:

My fear now falls to the reviews as I think they did a 180 on this years game compared to last years version, but it got such good reviews last year even though I thought it was a mess. Not sure if scores will be that good for this one, but they should be high in my book. I hope they continue on this development path as this is the best game I have played since the 2012 version easily.

RoyceDa59 09-12-2016 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PAPERNUT (Post 2048421981)
Got 3 full games in 15 min halves. I used to think all PES games were too fast, but they nailed the speed this year. Fouls are much better than I expected. Still wish we had a few more calls and a bit more physicality, but it is nowhere near as bad as last years game. If you liked the demo, you will like the release version as nothing has changed. Only issues I see at this point are the goalie saves or parry that fall directly to someone for an easy put back. Besides that, I have no issues with the goalies this year or the rest of the back line defense as it seems very solid. I love the corner kick strategies you can select between on off or def during kicks. :o:

My fear now falls to the reviews as I think they did a 180 on this years game compared to last years version, but it got such good reviews last year even though I thought it was a mess. Not sure if scores will be that good for this one, but they should be high in my book. I hope they continue on this development path as this is the best game I have played since the 2012 version easily.

Nice, I have heard a few people say the final version was slowler than the demo but I can't wait to play it really might stay up to midnight to get a few games in. Did you end up using any option files?


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