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  • ballin095
    Pro
    • Jan 2008
    • 536

    #1

    So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

    Would appreciate some clarity. Thanks
  • Triple C
    Rookie
    • Sep 2016
    • 6

    #2
    Re: So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

    It's your ability to shoot coming around a screen, stopping on a dime, draining a shot off of a stepback, etc, without experiencing a drop off in accuracy...

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    • alabamarob
      MVP
      • Nov 2010
      • 3352

      #3
      Re: So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

      Originally posted by ballin095
      Would appreciate some clarity. Thanks
      This needs a dev response or in game attribute description. Good question.
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      • Triple C
        Rookie
        • Sep 2016
        • 6

        #4
        Re: So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

        A dev response for a simple concept like this one?... I doubt it...

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        • LWest1622
          Just started!
          • Sep 2016
          • 4

          #5
          Re: So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

          Anything where you are ball handling then go straight into your shot......

          Examples: pull-ups (no huggies), step backs, spin shots, hop shots, hesi-shots, and size-up shots




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          • extremeskins04
            That's top class!
            • Aug 2010
            • 3868

            #6
            Re: So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

            Yea it's what Triple and others have said. Your ability to stop on a dime from dribbling and shoot. Step backs, spin shots, hops, hesitations, etc.

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            • SonicMage
              NBA Ratings Wizard
              • Oct 2002
              • 3544

              #7
              Re: So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

              Originally posted by Triple C
              A dev response for a simple concept like this one?... I doubt it...
              It's not as simple as it seems. In 2k16, the equivalent was the Moving Shot ratings, which were proven to only kick in when a player was making extreme movements such as fadeaways, stepbacks, or floaters. Single dribble, pull up jumpers were still using the Standing Shot ratings.

              It'd be nice to know if the new Off Dribble ratings are the ones used after a single dribble now.
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              • minwager
                Rookie
                • Dec 2013
                • 129

                #8
                Re: So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

                Only way to truly know is when the game comes out, I guess create a player and give him lowest possible shot rating and 99 off dribble shot and see what goes in during which dribbling situation

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                • SonicMage
                  NBA Ratings Wizard
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 3544

                  #9
                  Re: So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

                  Originally posted by minwager
                  Only way to truly know is when the game comes out, I guess create a player and give him lowest possible shot rating and 99 off dribble shot and see what goes in during which dribbling situation
                  That's what we did last year. But as far as I see it, that's not something we should have to do. Just a simple description box about what each attribute and tendency mean would go a long way to clearing up some confusion we have. They had this on one of the last-gen titles and it meant a whole lot for roster creators like myself. For years, people thought Offensive Awareness meant how well a player performs within the team offense, when really want it meant was how well a player responds to double teams. We knew that thanks to the description the designers gave us.

                  People out there still don't really know what Passing Vision vs. IQ vs. Accuracy mean. It's all just guesswork based on the name. Off Dribble, Open, and Contested are going to cause similar confusion. Example: Contested? How contested, 2ft, 3ft?
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                  • jeebs9
                    Fear is the Unknown
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 47568

                    #10
                    Re: So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

                    I might be alone on this opinion. But this is one of those baby crying threads that need to be closed. Triple C answered the OP.

                    If I was a Dev I would stay far away from these threads. That's how the green release started smh

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                    • alabamarob
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3352

                      #11
                      Re: So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

                      It was answered in the 2k livestream today. Ogallager said it is moving shots. He said even dribbling standing still is not sod in 17. Said it during end of raps v. Pacers game.
                      Last edited by alabamarob; 09-14-2016, 05:34 AM.
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                      • Sleepy59
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 384

                        #12
                        Re: So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

                        Would it apply for layups? I'm having a hard time understanding why a slasher would have a high shot off dribble, but low shooting attributes in general.

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                        • TajTrivedi
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 40

                          #13
                          Re: So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

                          Originally posted by alabamarob
                          It was answered in the 2k livestream today. Ogallager said it is moving shots. He said even dribbling standing still is not sod in 17. Said it suring end of raps v. Pacers game.
                          I hope thats true. Utilizing a screen and moving laterally around the three point arc before shooting should not constitute as off dribble

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                          • ballin095
                            Pro
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 536

                            #14
                            Re: So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

                            Originally posted by alabamarob
                            It was answered in the 2k livestream today. Ogallager said it is moving shots. He said even dribbling standing still is not sod in 17. Said it suring end of raps v. Pacers game.
                            Interesting. I may have to make a sharpshooter now. Thanks for the info

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                            • Triple C
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 6

                              #15
                              Re: So what exactly entails shoot off dribble?

                              Originally posted by TajTrivedi
                              I hope thats true. Utilizing a screen and moving laterally around the three point arc before shooting should not constitute as off dribble
                              It could... It would depend on the orientation of the shot and if the feet are set or not.

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