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  • niftyjets
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 1874

    #1

    Having Trouble Running

    I am having trouble establishing the run. Do you think setting the special move/assist to auto would help for now till i get the hang of it?

    thanks
  • Alfie
    Rookie
    • Jun 2014
    • 253

    #2
    Re: Having Trouble Running

    Before the latest patch I was able to run the ball somewhat averaging 3 to 3.5 yards a carry but since the patch came out I struggle to do much. Mind you I have never been great at running the ball but after the patch getting a 2-3 yard run itself is a struggle.

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    • niftyjets
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 1874

      #3
      Re: Having Trouble Running

      Same here. I feel like the blockers dont hold their blocks long at all and whiff a lot or run right past the guy

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      • Ampking101
        Pro
        • Sep 2011
        • 724

        #4
        Re: Having Trouble Running

        The first question I would ask, do you press the sprint button (R2 for PS4, RT for XBOne) when you get the ball or when passing by your blockers? What I have found is if you press it before you get into open space the sprint button initiates them to disengage their blocks immediately and make a direct b-line to the ball carrier.

        The best way I have found to run the ball is to only use the left stick at the beginning of the play. Let your blocks develop and then follow said blocks until you get into the open. I don't use the auto-moves so I've noticed the only time you should ever hit sprint is if you are in the open and have passed your blockers, or if you have a speed back to try to beat a defender to the outside only if there are no other defenders around and your blocks have already developed (this is a last ditch effort as otherwise you would get tackled behind the LOS.

        With the special moves, it depends of the type of back you are using, I find if I have a power back and someone is coming straight at me, I sprint and a second before contact I initiate a truck move, if a defender is coming from the side I initiate a stiff arm a second before contact. With an elusive back with decent juke or spin, if I have a guy coming straight at me I use the precision modifier (L2 or LT) and juke to the side that I have the most space to move about 1 5 seconds before contact, if the defender is coming from the side I will use the precision modifier and will spin about a second before contact. You always have the stop juke as well (back on the right stick) and that is good for if someone is coming at you from and angle and you have no defenders behind you.

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        • Alfie
          Rookie
          • Jun 2014
          • 253

          #5
          Re: Having Trouble Running

          Originally posted by Ampking101
          The first question I would ask, do you press the sprint button (R2 for PS4, RT for XBOne) when you get the ball or when passing by your blockers? What I have found is if you press it before you get into open space the sprint button initiates them to disengage their blocks immediately and make a direct b-line to the ball carrier.

          The best way I have found to run the ball is to only use the left stick at the beginning of the play. Let your blocks develop and then follow said blocks until you get into the open. I don't use the auto-moves so I've noticed the only time you should ever hit sprint is if you are in the open and have passed your blockers, or if you have a speed back to try to beat a defender to the outside only if there are no other defenders around and your blocks have already developed (this is a last ditch effort as otherwise you would get tackled behind the LOS.

          With the special moves, it depends of the type of back you are using, I find if I have a power back and someone is coming straight at me, I sprint and a second before contact I initiate a truck move, if a defender is coming from the side I initiate a stiff arm a second before contact. With an elusive back with decent juke or spin, if I have a guy coming straight at me I use the precision modifier (L2 or LT) and juke to the side that I have the most space to move about 1 5 seconds before contact, if the defender is coming from the side I will use the precision modifier and will spin about a second before contact. You always have the stop juke as well (back on the right stick) and that is good for if someone is coming at you from and angle and you have no defenders behind you.

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          I don't hold the R2/sprint button but I do hold the R1 button so as not to fumble the ball. Should I not hold R1 and only use the left stick as I assumed protecting the ball by holding R1 would actually be rewarded by the game, not penalized.

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          • Ampking101
            Pro
            • Sep 2011
            • 724

            #6
            Re: Having Trouble Running

            I only hold the R1 button as I am getting hit or when trying to change direction quickly only using the left stick (which is not as effective as it used to be) but I then quickly release the R1 button. It is only to cover the ball and as in real life covering the ball takes away the ability to have more freedom to do other things.

            I would also recommend using the hat count (red and green highlight before running the ball) religiously. Outside runs are also still pretty effective as well as long as you can learn to follow your blocks and don't try to do too much until you get into open space. I generally get about 90 to 150 yards a game using these techniques depending on the back I am using and the defense I am playing.

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            • Alfie
              Rookie
              • Jun 2014
              • 253

              #7
              Re: Having Trouble Running

              Originally posted by Ampking101
              I only hold the R1 button as I am getting hit or when trying to change direction quickly only using the left stick (which is not as effective as it used to be) but I then quickly release the R1 button. It is only to cover the ball and as in real life covering the ball takes away the ability to have more freedom to do other things.

              I would also recommend using the hat count (red and green highlight before running the ball) religiously. Outside runs are also still pretty effective as well as long as you can learn to follow your blocks and don't try to do too much until you get into open space. I generally get about 90 to 150 yards a game using these techniques depending on the back I am using and the defense I am playing.

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              I use the hat count and decide on the run (along with inside or outside) based on it. The outside/stretch runs used to work for me a bit before the patch but after the latest patch I get the DE or OLB get block shed and hit my HB in the backfield more often than not.

              One thing you mention is that you only press R1 when you are about to get hit but I keep it pressed throughout as I wanted to protect the ball as much as possible. Maybe that's my issue and maybe i need to use R1 selectively instead of holding it throughout.

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              • underdog13
                MVP
                • Apr 2012
                • 3222

                #8
                Re: Having Trouble Running

                And make sure to make use of the get skinny feature which is tapping R1 when trying to get between tackles. Turns 1-2 yard runs into 3-4

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                • reyes the roof
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 11526

                  #9
                  Re: Having Trouble Running

                  Every time you run the ball, try and pay attention to how the blocks were set up, even if it means going back and watching a replay. A lot of plays, especially misdirection and counters take time for the blocks to be set up, and it can be an unnatural feeling at first to let your blockers set up their blocks first before you hit your hole. Try and scale back your playbook a bit and stick with the same couple of runs until you get a really good feel for where your blockers are going to be on each play. As you get more comfortable, start adding different plays

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                  • phant030
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 1232

                    #10
                    Re: Having Trouble Running

                    Go through running drills in Skills Trainer on All Madden. Dont use Turbo at all during the drills.

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                    • ajra21
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 2170

                      #11
                      Re: Having Trouble Running

                      Originally posted by niftyjets
                      I am having trouble establishing the run. Do you think setting the special move/assist to auto would help for now till i get the hang of it?

                      thanks
                      Originally posted by Alfie
                      Before the latest patch I was able to run the ball somewhat averaging 3 to 3.5 yards a carry but since the patch came out I struggle to do much. Mind you I have never been great at running the ball but after the patch getting a 2-3 yard run itself is a struggle.
                      you have to mix up your runs. don't use your most effective running plays too often or too early. since the patch, i try not to run any play more than 4 times in a game and i'd rather use each only 2 or 3 times.

                      equally, don't expect to be able to ran the ball in every game. for instance, i just won a SB behind two good RB. first playoff game, i ran all over NO for 243 yards but in the NFC CG, i was up against PHI whose DL stuffs the run so i barely tried running in the second or third Q.

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                      • Brocksterdanza
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 7

                        #12
                        Re: Having Trouble Running

                        I struggle running it as well... i used to average well over 100 ypg... oh how times change

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                        • ajra21
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 2170

                          #13
                          Re: Having Trouble Running

                          Originally posted by underdog13
                          And make sure to make use of the get skinny feature which is tapping R1 when trying to get between tackles. Turns 1-2 yard runs into 3-4.
                          whoah, whoah, whoah. what is this?

                          if you tap R1 you get "skinny" to go though holes? holy crap, how have i not heard of this before?

                          is this a light, quick tap?

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                          • underdog13
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 3222

                            #14
                            Re: Having Trouble Running

                            Originally posted by ajra21
                            whoah, whoah, whoah. what is this?

                            if you tap R1 you get "skinny" to go though holes? holy crap, how have i not heard of this before?

                            is this a light, quick tap?
                            Yeah a light tap

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                            • ajra21
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 2170

                              #15
                              Re: Having Trouble Running

                              Originally posted by underdog13
                              Yeah a light tap

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                              awesome. thanks dog.

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