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  • Rockie_Fresh88
    Lockdown Defender
    • Oct 2011
    • 9621

    #1

    Cutting off baseline = Blocking fouls ?

    How can I stop people from going baseline without it being a foul? I'm already in front of the person and they just charge into me and go out of bounds. But the game calls blocking foul every time. I was taught to use the baseline as a second defender.

    This is in pro am with my LDD by the way
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  • Breakstarter
    Rookie
    • Jan 2016
    • 419

    #2
    Re: Cutting off baseline = Blocking fouls ?

    Don't ask questions you know the answers to. 2k will NEVER get defense right. They were on to something back in 2k9 when you could shade your opponent, but other than that, 2k has gone out of their way to patch offense out of the game because the defense just cannot match the offense.. going baseline gets you either a foul call, or if you succeed, you force them In to that weird Eurostep out of bounds animation which no professional collegiate or high school basketball player has ever been recorded doing. Who the French mo capped that animation anyways? Defense is super sluggish and the offensive player cuts are way faster than the lateral movement of the defensive players. How they haven't seen this is beyond my understanding. Also the players feel super heavy and ever since 2k11, they just don't feel the same. 2k11 the my players felt light and you could crossover and left right and stop on a dime at your hearts content. Now because everyone cries and complains and 2k wants to "cut the cheese out" You can't move as freely as you used to and people will continue to complain about the defense in the game until 2k addresses this legacy issue.

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    • ph33
      MVP
      • Oct 2014
      • 3261

      #3
      Re: Cutting off baseline = Blocking fouls ?

      I have this problem every night especially when dealing with point guards.

      I'll have them beat to the spot yet every time I get drawn into an animation where they get "pushed" out of bounds but a dude standing still is the one who did it.

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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #4
        Re: Cutting off baseline = Blocking fouls ?

        I can't remember seeing this done w\o a foul being called TBH...

        You could last year.

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        • awg811
          Pro
          • Jul 2009
          • 768

          #5
          Re: Cutting off baseline = Blocking fouls ?

          In fairness, sometimes this should be called a foul.
          If you are turbo bumping them then it should be a foul.
          If you are riding them along the baseline it shouldn't

          It is called WAY too often and almost every time it's called wrong.
          But, there are times when it should be called.

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          • Rbk360
            Rookie
            • Sep 2016
            • 46

            #6
            Re: Cutting off baseline = Blocking fouls ?

            Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
            How can I stop people from going baseline without it being a foul? I'm already in front of the person and they just charge into me and go out of bounds. But the game calls blocking foul every time. I was taught to use the baseline as a second defender.

            This is in pro am with my LDD by the way
            Yep. No exaggeration, it's almost an auto-foul just by holding L2. My only solution to this (big man, btw) is to just hold the right stick toward the basket. Can't press square. Can't press L2. Maybe a charge could work too?

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            • Hellquist
              Pro
              • Oct 2012
              • 558

              #7
              Re: Cutting off baseline = Blocking fouls ?

              Originally posted by Breakstarter
              Don't ask questions you know the answers to. 2k will NEVER get defense right. They were on to something back in 2k9 when you could shade your opponent, but other than that, 2k has gone out of their way to patch offense out of the game because the defense just cannot match the offense.. going baseline gets you either a foul call, or if you succeed, you force them In to that weird Eurostep out of bounds animation which no professional collegiate or high school basketball player has ever been recorded doing. Who the French mo capped that animation anyways? Defense is super sluggish and the offensive player cuts are way faster than the lateral movement of the defensive players. How they haven't seen this is beyond my understanding. Also the players feel super heavy and ever since 2k11, they just don't feel the same. 2k11 the my players felt light and you could crossover and left right and stop on a dime at your hearts content. Now because everyone cries and complains and 2k wants to "cut the cheese out" You can't move as freely as you used to and people will continue to complain about the defense in the game until 2k addresses this legacy issue.
              Probably the most nonsensical animation on the game. Irritates the hell out of me.

              By the way, many of the blocking fouls on this game aren't blocking fouls. The ballhandler moves an inch and you're in a defensive stance is a blocking foul and it's called way too much.

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              • Rockie_Fresh88
                Lockdown Defender
                • Oct 2011
                • 9621

                #8
                Re: Cutting off baseline = Blocking fouls ?

                Originally posted by Rbk360
                Yep. No exaggeration, it's almost an auto-foul just by holding L2. My only solution to this (big man, btw) is to just hold the right stick toward the basket. Can't press square. Can't press L2. Maybe a charge could work too?
                Tried charge and the guy bounced off of me for an easy dunk. I'll try your tips too though.
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                • Ownal0t
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 1244

                  #9
                  Re: Cutting off baseline = Blocking fouls ?

                  i just chalk it up as another 2k bail out for the offensive player due to 2k not knowing how to properly replicate defense <_<

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                  • jyoung
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 11132

                    #10
                    Re: Cutting off baseline = Blocking fouls ?

                    2K16 and 2K17 both use the same logic in Pro Am where any time that the dribbler steps out of bounds while making contact with a defender it's an automatic blocking foul 100% of the time.

                    The weird thing is that in 2K16/2K17 MyPark and Blacktop, the exact opposite logic exists. There are no blocking fouls called in that same situation, and it just ends up being an out of bounds turnover on the dribbler 100% of the time.

                    2K17 should be using that MyPark/Blacktop out of bounds logic in Pro Am as well IMO. The sideline and baseline should be acting as a second and third defender, not as an offensive bail out mechanic.

                    Unfortunately, 2K17 has also added some new shooting foul animations along the baseline that didn't exist in 2K16 MyPark or Pro Am where the defender will get sucked into a contact animation with the shooter and the ball will bounce off both of their bodies. Those animations seem to have about a 50/50 chance of being a foul or a no call, regardless of whether you're in MyPark, Blacktop, or Pro Am. And defenders can get sucked into those two-man animations even if they're just standing still and not doing anything but holding the left trigger. I wish 2K would just take those animations out of the game since they look weird and don't make sense for the offensive or defensive player.

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                    • Optimus James
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 393

                      #11
                      Re: Cutting off baseline = Blocking fouls ?

                      Basically rewarding a user for pressing turbo and running out of bounds, what else is new.

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                      • EddieK76
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 220

                        #12
                        Re: Cutting off baseline = Blocking fouls ?

                        Not that this is likely what is happening but....

                        If iRL you force your offensive player to either the sideline and or baseline and you as a defender place a foot out of bounds to stop that movement it's an automatic blocking foul now. The ability to put your foot out of bounds as a defender is no longer available IRL as that rule changed about 7 years ago.

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                        • Rockie_Fresh88
                          Lockdown Defender
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 9621

                          #13
                          Re: Cutting off baseline = Blocking fouls ?

                          Originally posted by EddieK76
                          Not that this is likely what is happening but....

                          If iRL you force your offensive player to either the sideline and or baseline and you as a defender place a foot out of bounds to stop that movement it's an automatic blocking foul now. The ability to put your foot out of bounds as a defender is no longer available IRL as that rule changed about 7 years ago.
                          That's good to know. Thing is I'm not forcing offensive player baseline . They are trying to abuse baseline drives but I hold my ground. If anything it should be an offensive foul. They literally try to run me over to go baseline .
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                          • ksuttonjr76
                            All Star
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 8662

                            #14
                            Re: Cutting off baseline = Blocking fouls ?

                            Originally posted by EddieK76
                            Not that this is likely what is happening but....

                            If iRL you force your offensive player to either the sideline and or baseline and you as a defender place a foot out of bounds to stop that movement it's an automatic blocking foul now. The ability to put your foot out of bounds as a defender is no longer available IRL as that rule changed about 7 years ago.
                            That's not the foul he's talking about. It's a baseline drive to the rim, and your player "pulled" into a blocking or shooting foul.

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