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  • Caelumfang
    MVP
    • Oct 2012
    • 1218

    #1

    Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge



    I sent this to Zach Timmerman a couple days ago after he asked for proof, but haven't received a reply, so I figured I'd put it here to expose the problem. Hopefully it'll catch enough attention.

    As those with a LDD are aware, the LDD grand badge deactivates the direct matchup's grand badge. However, in what appears to be a glitch (as Zach himself was not even aware of it when he asked for proof), the Playmaker badge actually deactivates the LDD grand badge, which isn't supposed to happen. Pay close attention to whenever the ball is in play on the opposition's offensive set. Whenever I approach the Playmaker, my badge shuts off, and only reactivates on offense, or the inbound.

    This isn't a one time thing. It has happened every time I go up against a Playmaker, and our badges are active at the same time. This time, I decided to catch it on video.
    Last edited by Caelumfang; 01-08-2017, 09:04 AM.
  • Thunderhorse
    Rookie
    • Jun 2011
    • 485

    #2
    Re: Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge

    Originally posted by Caelumfang
    https://twitter.com/caelumfang/statu...40896635211777

    I sent this to Zach Timmerman a couple days ago after he asked for proof, but haven't received a reply, so I figured I'd put it here to expose the problem. Hopefully it'll catch enough attention.

    As those with a LDD are aware, the LDD grand badge deactivates the direct matchup's grand badge. However, in what appears to be a glitch (as Zach himself was not even aware of it when he asked for proof), the Playmaker badge actually deactivates the LDD grand badge, which isn't supposed to happen. Pay close attention to whenever the ball is in play on the opposition's offensive set. Whenever I approach the Playmaker, my badge shuts off, and only reactivates on offense, or the inbound.

    This isn't a one time thing. It has happened every time I go up against a Playmaker, and our badges are active at the same time. This time, I decided to catch it on video.
    Maybe this is why my LDD has no ability to defend the opposition's anklebreaker badge.

    I never get my ankles broken by a Shot Creator, but playmakers will make me fall.

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    • Caelumfang
      MVP
      • Oct 2012
      • 1218

      #3
      Re: Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge

      Originally posted by Thunderhorse
      Maybe this is why my LDD has no ability to defend the opposition's anklebreaker badge.

      I never get my ankles broken by a Shot Creator, but playmakers will make me fall.
      I've been suspicious of that as well. Because of this, I'm beginning to wonder if any of our badges are interacting correctly vs Playmaker badges.

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      • hanzsomehanz
        MVP
        • Oct 2009
        • 3275

        #4
        Re: Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge

        Originally posted by Thunderhorse
        Maybe this is why my LDD has no ability to defend the opposition's anklebreaker badge.

        I never get my ankles broken by a Shot Creator, but playmakers will make me fall.
        Shot Creators can snatch your LDD ankles too

        Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk
        how could I lose? im playing by my own rules..

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        • Caelumfang
          MVP
          • Oct 2012
          • 1218

          #5
          Re: Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge

          Sadly, I think this is an issue that won't get fixed. And most don't care because it's not their archetype that's dealing with such a glitch/issue.

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          • cablexdeadpool
            Rookie
            • Oct 2015
            • 388

            #6
            Re: Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge

            Originally posted by Caelumfang
            Sadly, I think this is an issue that won't get fixed. And most don't care because it's not their archetype that's dealing with such a glitch/issue.
            I care....I have a LDD

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            • Ownal0t
              MVP
              • Jul 2014
              • 1244

              #7
              Re: Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge

              oh look a defensive feature in 2k getting abused / non existent vs the offense. lol

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              • Thunderhorse
                Rookie
                • Jun 2011
                • 485

                #8
                Re: Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge

                Originally posted by hanzsomehanz
                Shot Creators can snatch your LDD ankles too

                Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk
                Maybe it's the playmaker's "Speed with ball" rating.

                I just never fear shot creators of the dribble, my player never has an issue of playing tight D on a shot creator.

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                • SixGod
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 101

                  #9
                  Re: Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge

                  This should never happen and hopefully this is a glitch. LDD grand badge being activated should cancel out ALL badges IMO. If a sharpshooter can hit half court 3's, at least give LDDs/PPs the pleasure of actually locking someone down.

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                  • Thunderhorse
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 485

                    #10
                    Re: Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge

                    Originally posted by SirGaryColeman
                    It's not by design? Every Archetype has at least 1 Archetype that can bypass what it does.

                    I feel like LDD was made to destroy the Sharp Shooter, not the Playmaker. The Playmaker would be the one Archetype that should be able to give the LDD trouble.
                    The Defensive Stopper IMO is just a "Neutralizer" of sorts. All you really get out of the LDD is better defensive animations and the ability to cancel out your opponents HOF offensive badges (except Ankle Breaker).

                    You don't really "Cancel" anyone out. You still have to be in position to make plays, your opponent's badges just don't give them the boosts they normally enjoy. Now the Sharpshooter has to actually get open if he's going to drain a three from half court.

                    In addition to that. All it takes for any other archetype to enjoy the same type of gameplay towards my LDD is to unlock their own Bronze Defensive Stopper badge. That nullifies any Bronze offensive badges I may unlock with my LDD. If your HOF badges are at HOF level, my Defensive Stopper doesn't really mean much does it? It just takes your ability to do superman ish away.

                    I don't know of any archetypes that adversely relate to each other in a "Rock/Paper/Scissors" type of way. All the other archetypes are limited to 74-77 Defense or something and they all have the same animations. Speed and Vertical mean something but essentially there is not a huge difference between the defense of a 6'5 Shot Creator vs a 6'5 Sharpshooter vs. a 6'5 Playmaker.

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                    • Rockie_Fresh88
                      Lockdown Defender
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 9621

                      #11
                      Re: Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge

                      Originally posted by SirGaryColeman
                      I think the intent was to have the Rock/Paper/Scissors thing... it may have not been done very well, but I really do think it was what they were going for.

                      Balance would only make sense if certain Archetypes can dominate some, but not all. If 1 Archetype can stop ALL other Archetypes, then you start to lose balance.

                      If there is 1 Archetype that should be able to get around an LDD, it's the Playmaker.

                      I know sharpshooters are a nightmare to guard for me, but an LDD does pretty well against them. While I'm sure the Sharp Shooter thinks he should be able to shoot over everyone - it makes sense that an LDD is the Archetype that can stop him.
                      Why make a LDD if you can only guard a sharpshooter lol

                      No it wasn't meant to be like that. I can rip playmakers just fine and force them to pick the ball up. I personally haven't seen a Playmaker's grand badge cancel mine out.
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                      • sc00by
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 52

                        #12
                        Re: Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge

                        Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                        I personally haven't seen a Playmaker's grand badge cancel mine out.
                        I must admit whilst I have never looked for it I have never noticed this either...

                        As a 7'3" centre I guess I don't match up against playmakers regularly but I also assume that a Point Forward would have the same effect (if this was by game design) and I match against them enough to have thought I would have seen this happen...

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                        • Thunderhorse
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 485

                          #13
                          Re: Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge

                          Originally posted by SirGaryColeman
                          I think the intent was to have the Rock/Paper/Scissors thing... it may have not been done very well, but I really do think it was what they were going for.

                          Balance would only make sense if certain Archetypes can dominate some, but not all. If 1 Archetype can stop ALL other Archetypes, then you start to lose balance.

                          If there is 1 Archetype that should be able to get around an LDD, it's the Playmaker.

                          I know sharpshooters are a nightmare to guard for me, but an LDD does pretty well against them. While I'm sure the Sharp Shooter thinks he should be able to shoot over everyone - it makes sense that an LDD is the Archetype that can stop him.
                          No, it still doesn't make sense. There is only 1 archetype in the game that directly competes with every other archetype - The LDD.

                          There is no directly adversarial relationship between the offensive archetypes in this game. That relationship only exists between the offensive archetypes and the 2 defensive archetypes (Paint Protector/LDD).

                          there is no Check/Balance (in the archetypal sense) between a Sharpshooter and a Shot Creator. They just score differently. Defensively they are essentially the same player. You can have a Sharpshooter matching up against my Slasher and it matters very little. Both of us will be able to score using the skills made available through the archetype, and neither of us will have badges that facilitate us shutting down the opponents game plan.

                          The LDD has no true offensive skills. His skill is his ability to bring the HOF playmaker/shotcreator/sharpshoter back down to earth and force them to play like a normal player. When that offensive player my LDD is defending has also taken the time to unlock "defensive stopper", we essentially have two players without offensive badges playing.

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                          • Caelumfang
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 1218

                            #14
                            Re: Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge

                            So I finally got a reply from Zach Timmerman, and he says he's now looking into the situation. Apparently he wasn't even aware that this was happening.

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                            • hanzsomehanz
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 3275

                              #15
                              Re: Playmaker grand badge deactivates LDD grand badge

                              Originally posted by Caelumfang
                              So I finally got a reply from Zach Timmerman, and he says he's now looking into the situation. Apparently he wasn't even aware that this was happening.
                              Good find here Cael and thanks for pressing the case on Zach 👌

                              Defensive Stopper (DS) is supposed to cancel our badges and HOF DS would do the same but somehow Playmaker Grand Badge is shutting down the LDD GB? That's so screwy and what a find!



                              Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk
                              how could I lose? im playing by my own rules..

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