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  • infemous
    MVP
    • Nov 2009
    • 1568

    #1

    The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

    Reading the comments in the 1.08 Patch Notes thread, I saw Da_Czar make this comment:

    "As a community you guys should start a thread and hash this out and boil it down to exactly what you want to see. Then lobby for that specifically.

    Was tiers what you really wanted ? Was it better without tiers ? etc etc. IMHO of course."


    Here is the requested thread.

    I'll start it off with my views, but obviously, everyone's input is required in order to make this the constructive thread that could hopefully lead to the changes we, as a community want to see.

    Personally, I like the tier system and think it should remain, albeit with very simple tweaks.

    The biggest concern, is that we are so often being forced to play against the same team as the one selected. This should not happen at all. There must be a simple block for playing the same team as your own.

    I even choose unpopular teams at times, but then have to wait for a match for minutes on end, and more often than not, do not get matched with someone.

    I would like to be able to select which tiers I am looking to play against.

    So if I choose a Tier 4 team, I would like the option of choosing to play a team in Tier 2, 3 and 5, and omit teams from Tier 1 and 4. This would diversify the challenge, and could be helpful when looking for those bonus wins.

    The other tweak, that is so important to me, is to have a simple home/away uniform lock. If you are the home team, you can only select from your teams collection of home uniforms, and vice versa, for away teams.

    This should stop the same colour uniform cheese that also makes playing Play Now Online a bit of a pain.

    Another tweak would be the simple option to back out of a matchup with no penalty at the uniform select screen.

    My final tweak, would be to allow us to save, within Play Now Online, a lineup and coach settings so we don't have to constantly make a bunch of tweaks before playing the game.
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  • blk5tar5
    Pro
    • Nov 2014
    • 809

    #2
    Re: The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

    The Tier is alright but I think it needs more work. I usually play as Timberwolves in Tier 4 and I usually play against most Mirror matches and different teams in Tier 4 and 5.

    What I want is 2K to bring in no tier system change PNO (Play Now Online) to NBA today games, but make them RANKED Games and give the people the option to play current NBA games without problems!

    Here is the benefits of having this:

    No Mirror Matches
    No Same Colour Jersey
    No waiting
    Play different teams on a Daily!

    Example: Feb 2, 2017
    Lakers vs Wizards
    Hawks vs Rockets
    76ers vs Spurs
    Warriors vs Clippers

    Feb 3, 2017
    Raptors vs Magic
    Timberwolves vs Pistons
    Pacers vs Nets
    Lakers vs Celtics
    Grizzlies vs Thunder
    Bulls vs Rockets
    Bucks vs Nuggets
    Suns vs Kings
    Mavericks vs Trail Blazers

    So everyday it’s a different team with a different playing experience giving the user more variety when playing.

    If anybody has anymore thoughts by adding to this greatly appreciate it.

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    • ksuttonjr76
      All Star
      • Nov 2004
      • 8662

      #3
      Re: The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

      Honestly, I would be completely happy if the search options worked, and I still had the option to back out without penalty.

      I still like the tier system, because it gives people an incentive to use lower ranked teams. Otherwise, everyone would use the GSW or Cavs.

      Also, give us a "locked" option whether or not we want to play mirror matches. Beyond that, I don't expect sweeping changes. The popularity of the mode is dying with each passing year due to MyPlayer and ProAm.

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      • El_Tercero
        Pro
        • Sep 2015
        • 711

        #4
        Re: The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

        Originally posted by NoLeafClover
        Just make it exactly the same as last year which worked 100% fine where there was bonus VC for besting higher tiers, there was absolutely no need to change anything about it and now this year's matchmaking has never worked.

        Same with the substitution menus, on the fly coaching menu, etc etc.

        Stopping trying to fix things that aren't broken for the sake of change would be a great starting point.
        I agree. Last year was fun playing against other players in the same league as you. Especially when you noticed playing certain people multiple times, forming that rivalry. I miss the ability of being able to play with the worst team in the league and trying to beat the best team and receiving extra VC for it. It really was not broken last year.

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        • Jrw122
          Rookie
          • Oct 2016
          • 6

          #5
          Re: The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

          Originally posted by blk5tar5
          The Tier is alright but I think it needs more work. I usually play as Timberwolves in Tier 4 and I usually play against most Mirror matches and different teams in Tier 4 and 5.

          What I want is 2K to bring in no tier system change PNO (Play Now Online) to NBA today games, but make them RANKED Games and give the people the option to play current NBA games without problems!

          Here is the benefits of having this:

          No Mirror Matches
          No Same Colour Jersey
          No waiting
          Play different teams on a Daily!

          Example: Feb 2, 2017
          Lakers vs Wizards
          Hawks vs Rockets
          76ers vs Spurs
          Warriors vs Clippers

          Feb 3, 2017
          Raptors vs Magic
          Timberwolves vs Pistons
          Pacers vs Nets
          Lakers vs Celtics
          Grizzlies vs Thunder
          Bulls vs Rockets
          Bucks vs Nuggets
          Suns vs Kings
          Mavericks vs Trail Blazers

          So everyday it’s a different team with a different playing experience giving the user more variety when playing.

          If anybody has anymore thoughts by adding to this greatly appreciate it.
          Only one problem with your suggestion. What happens when your team has an off day and doesn't play that day? Are you not allowed to play with them or does your opponent get to pick any team they want or what?

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          • sk8board
            Pro
            • Nov 2016
            • 572

            #6
            Re: The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

            Originally posted by blk5tar5
            The Tier is alright but I think it needs more work. I usually play as Timberwolves in Tier 4 and I usually play against most Mirror matches and different teams in Tier 4 and 5.

            What I want is 2K to bring in no tier system change PNO (Play Now Online) to NBA today games, but make them RANKED Games and give the people the option to play current NBA games without problems!

            Here is the benefits of having this:

            No Mirror Matches
            No Same Colour Jersey
            No waiting
            Play different teams on a Daily!

            Example: Feb 2, 2017
            Lakers vs Wizards
            Hawks vs Rockets
            76ers vs Spurs
            Warriors vs Clippers

            Feb 3, 2017
            Raptors vs Magic
            Timberwolves vs Pistons
            Pacers vs Nets
            Lakers vs Celtics
            Grizzlies vs Thunder
            Bulls vs Rockets
            Bucks vs Nuggets
            Suns vs Kings
            Mavericks vs Trail Blazers

            So everyday it’s a different team with a different playing experience giving the user more variety when playing.

            If anybody has anymore thoughts by adding to this greatly appreciate it.
            2k pretending they cant do anything about it when they dont care. here is the solution. nba daily games would be amazing, and should have been in the game years ago. i remember live had it one year.

            negligence

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            • ForeverVersatile
              Pro
              • Jan 2011
              • 3498

              #7
              The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

              I want them to go away from the tier system and make matchmaking work as it should without the mirror matches.

              Filters are good, just make them work and have specific team filters. Avoid team filter and Desired matchup filter.

              The leagues are ok but I think there are too many of them and the amount of wins needed to rank up should only be 3 or 4. I don't think you should be sent down a league for 3 straight losses especially with how cheesy most of the time players online are.




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              • ForeverVersatile
                Pro
                • Jan 2011
                • 3498

                #8
                The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

                Originally posted by sk8board
                2k pretending they cant do anything about it when they dont care. here is the solution. nba daily games would be amazing, and should have been in the game years ago. i remember live had it one year.



                negligence


                The only thing about that is teams would have to be randomly assigned and playing with the Sixers against the Cavs won't be fun especially if you don't know the team well.


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                • TheDuggler
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 728

                  #9
                  Re: The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

                  Originally posted by blk5tar5
                  So everyday it’s a different team with a different playing experience giving the user more variety when playing.
                  Just want to say this is a great idea and I hope 2K sees this and seriously considered a ranked NBA Today mode

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                  • Da_Czar
                    NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5408

                    #10
                    Re: The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

                    Originally posted by NoLeafClover

                    Stopping trying to fix things that aren't broken for the sake of change would be a great starting point.
                    I would caution to be careful with these types of statements. Tiers was requested by people on this very site. What you just said could be interpreted as stop listening to the fans of a particular mode. We didn't make this change just because...

                    Users made a request and the very next year we implemented it.
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                    • tt500
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 749

                      #11
                      Re: The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

                      Originally posted by Da_Czar
                      I would caution to be careful with these types of statements. Tiers was requested by people on this very site. What you just said could be interpreted as stop listening to the fans of a particular mode. We didn't make this change just because...

                      Users made a request and the very next year we implemented it.
                      The tier system is great. I think the only problem people complain about now is how tiers are only being matched in the same tier majority of the time. The win bonuses are so rare to come by since we always end up playing the same tier or mirror matches.

                      Would be great if the matchmaking can be optimized so if your a tier 5 you have more chances to match with tier 3-4 as much as 5. While tier 4 can can matched with 2-5 and so on.

                      Also everyone was probally just tired of warriors because of curry shooting it halfcourt all the time hah. Now that hes more guardable in 2k17 people want to get those win bonuses again.

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                      • quitdabull
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 157

                        #12
                        Re: The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

                        Originally posted by Da_Czar
                        I would caution to be careful with these types of statements. Tiers was requested by people on this very site. What you just said could be interpreted as stop listening to the fans of a particular mode. We didn't make this change just because...

                        Users made a request and the very next year we implemented it.
                        Keep the tier system, just tweak it up,

                        If you add the NBA today games , there should be extra VC reward if you play every game on the list. That would actually make people pick the 76ers vs a Cleveland , to get a match and earn the VC

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                        • Da_Czar
                          NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5408

                          #13
                          Re: The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

                          Originally posted by NoLeafClover
                          Again, we appreciate the listening to feedback, but why implement something if it doesn't work? You acknowledge that the toggle button for "search all tiers" does NOT work, right?
                          I don't believe that is what I said. I described how it was designed to work which I feel is different than what you guys thought it was designed to do. It does not exclude you from being a tier match for the other person. It just adds other tiers to expand your pool.
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                          • Hustle Westbrook
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 3113

                            #14
                            Re: The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

                            Just give us the ability to back out of matches, or at the very least make it so that we're not able to be matched up with the same team that we're playing as.

                            It's not playing against the same 2 or 3 teams in my tier that annoy me as much as it's the constant mirror matches.
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                            • Mintsa
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 6668

                              #15
                              Re: The Play Now Online Tiers Conversation

                              Just make it so you can search games per tier or random. It's that simple.

                              I use toronto, currently a tier 2 team.

                              I don't feel like a mirror match ? No problem, any tier outside of mine.

                              I don't feel like playing the warriors ? No problem, don't search tier 1.

                              I need bonus wins ? No problem, search tier 1 teams only.

                              I feel like playing a more "rare team" for a different experience, search for a tier 4 team.

                              Etc, etc, Etc........

                              It really solves everything, we'd be in control, but yet not
                              completely in control........ Get what I'm saying?

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