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  • Figment
    Pro
    • Jan 2009
    • 772

    #1

    #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

    A month out from game release I thought I would start the Cubs thread. I put together a list of 131 players that have some legitimate claim to be on the OSFM roster. I know a handful of players will be cut before the season starts and other players will be claimed off of waivers, so this provides some wiggle room for replacement players depending on position or maybe popularity.

    A couple predictions of mine is that Tommy La Stella is traded before opening day since Szczur is out of options and he had his whole fiasco last year after being optioned too. I also think Szczur may be traded or waived for them to make room for Jeimer Candelario instead. The versatility of the entire team make it to where they don't NEED a specific position, it's just a matter of tools they think can be more helpful to the team and a good switch hitting 3B/1B may be more valuable to them. I ultimately think Szczur makes the roster since he is a good defensive substitution, good PH against lefties, and a good option for a pinch runner.

    I used The Cub Reporter (http://www.thecubreporter.com/cubs-s...al-depth-chart) as my primary source to build these rosters combined with news I've read and just overall paying attention to my team. Prospects on a top ten list will be bold with a bracket displaying what list and number they placed, I used MLB, Baseball Prospectus, and Baseball America for this. All top 10 prospects are included in the 90 man roster. I have all 40 man roster players on the roster denoted by an asterisk*. I also have all "predicted" AAA and AA players listed too. Without further delay, the list:

    MLB:
    SP Jon Lester* (L)
    SP Jake Arrieta*
    SP Kyle Hendricks*
    SP John Lackey*
    SP Brett Anderson* (L)
    SP/RP Mike Montgomery* (L)
    CP Wade Davis*
    RP Hector Rondon*
    RP Pedro Strop*
    RP Koji Uehara*
    RP Carl Edwards Jr*
    RP Justin Grimm*
    RP Caleb Smith* (L) (MLB Rule 5 Pick)
    C/LF Willson Contreras*
    C Miguel Montero* (L)
    1B Anthony Rizzo* (L)
    2B/LF/RF Ben Zobrist* (S)
    2B/3B/SS Javier Baez*
    3B/OF Kris Bryant*
    SS Addison Russell*
    LF/C Kyle Schwarber* (L)
    LF/OF Matt Szczur*
    CF/OF Jon Jay* (L)
    CF/OF Albert Almora* [MLB:3][BA:3][BP:3]
    RF/OF Jason Heyward* (L)

    AAA:
    SP Eddie Butler*
    SP Rob Zastryzny* (L) [MLB:21]
    SP Alec Mills* [MLB:16]
    SP Jake Buchanan*
    SP Aaron Brooks*
    SP Williams Perez
    RP Fernando Rodriguez
    RP Brian Duensing* (L)
    RP Felix Pena* [MLB:26]
    RP Jack Leathersich* (L)
    RP Pierce Johnson* [MLB:18]
    RP Jose Rosario* [MLB:22]
    RP Jim Henderson
    C Carlos Corporan (S)
    C/1B Taylor Davis
    1B/3B Chris Dominguez
    2B/3B Tommy La Stella*
    2B Jemile Weeks (S)
    3B/1B Jeimer Candelario* (S) [MLB:5][BA:7][BP:5]
    3B/SS Kevin Cornelius (AAA Rule 5 Draft Pick)
    SS/2B Munenori Kawasaki (L)
    LF/2B Ian Happ (S) [MLB:1][BA:2][BP:2]
    LF/RF Mark Zagunis [MLB:6][BA:6]
    CF/OF John Andreoli
    RF/OF Eloy Jimenez [MLB:2][BA:1][BP:1]

    AA:
    SP Duane Underwood* [MLB:7]
    SP Casey Kelly
    SP Ryan Williams [MLB:19]
    SP Seth Frankoff
    SP Dallas Beeler
    SP Jordan Pries
    RP Manny Parra (L)
    RP David Rollins (L)
    RP Dylan Floro
    RP Maikel Cleto
    RP Zac Rosscup (L)
    RP Conor Mullee
    RP Daniel Corcino
    C/1B/3B Victor Caratini* (S) [MLB:15]
    C/1B Cael Brockmeyer
    1B Yasiel Balaguert
    1B Gioskar Amaya
    2B/3B Chesny Young [MLB:29]
    2B/SS Stephen Bruno
    3B Jason Vosler (L)
    SS Elliot Soto
    LF/OF Charcer Burks
    CF/OF Jacob Hannemann* (L) [MLB:20]
    CF/OF Todd Glaesmann
    RF Bijan Rademacher (L)

    A:
    SP Trevor Clifton [MLB:9][BA:8][BP:4]
    SP Dylan Cease [MLB:4][BA:4][BP:7]
    SP Oscar De La Cruz [MLB:8][BA:5][BP:8]
    SP Thomas Hatch [MLB:14][BP:10]
    SP Jose Albertos [MLB:10][BA:10][BP:6]
    SP Michael Wagner
    SP Jen-Ho Tseng [MLB:27]
    RP Gerardo Concepcion (L)
    RP Jhondaniel Medina
    RP Andury Acevedo
    RP Corey Black [MLB:28]
    RP Miguel Mejia
    RP Frank Batista
    C Ali Solis
    C P.J. Higgins [MLB:23]
    2B David Bote
    2B Daniel Sepulveda (L)
    3B Jesse Hodges
    3B Wladimir Galindo
    SS Carlos Penalver
    LF Roberto Caro (S)
    CF Trey Martin
    CF D.J. Wilson (L) [MLB:12][BA:9]
    RF Jeffrey Baez
    RF Eddy Julio Martinez [MLB:13][BP:9]

    EXTRAS:
    SP Zach Hedges
    SP Brad Markey
    SP Tyler Skulina
    SP Jonathan Martinez
    SP Jake Stinnett [MLB:17]
    SP Jose Paulino (L) [MLB:30]
    SP Justin Steele (L) [MLB:24]
    SP Carson Sands (L) [MLB:25]
    SP Bryan Hudson (L) [MLB:11]
    RP Daniel Moskos (L)
    RP Nick Sarianides
    RP Steve Perakslis
    RP Juan Carlos Paniagua
    RP Jeffry Antigua (L)
    RP David Garner
    RP David Berg
    RP James Pugliese
    RP Daury Torrez
    C Tyler Pearson
    C Ian Rice
    C Erick Castillo (S)
    1B Matt Rose
    1B Alberto Mineo (L)
    2B Andrew Ely (L)
    3B Vimael Machin (L)
    SS Zach Short
    SS Bryant Flete (L)
    LF Kevonte Mitchell
    LF Michael Foster
    CF Connor Myers
    RF Daniel Spingola (L)

    Like I said, 131 players. Don't pay too much attention to what level I have them at. Caleb Smith and Kevin Cornelius have to be at MLB and AAA respectively since they are rule 5 picks so I placed them there.
    Let me know your thoughts, who should be bumped down or up? Besides that I can't wait until the new game comes out.

    Go Cubs Go!
    Last edited by Figment; 02-28-2017, 10:55 PM.
  • trackstar121388
    Rookie
    • Apr 2014
    • 238

    #2
    Re: #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

    So I just saw a list of the top 18 players at every position and I was surprised by a few things.

    They don't have Addison Russell as one of the top 18 SS in the league. Additionally, Schwarber and Contreras don't show up at all. I guess I can see them not putting Schwarber and Contreras in as they're still "unproven" and it might depend what position they list Schwarber at. So my bigger contention is no Russell in the top 18. He was tied for 10th among SS in runs score, 15th in hits, 16th in doubles, tied for 11th in triples, 7th in homeruns, 2nd in RBIs, 6th in walks, 17th in batting average, 10th in OBP., 13th in SLG., 11th in OPS. and is very good defensive player.

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    • Caulfield
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 10986

      #3
      Re: #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

      Originally posted by trackstar121388
      So I just saw a list of the top 18 players at every position and I was surprised by a few things.

      They don't have Addison Russell as one of the top 18 SS in the league. Additionally, Schwarber and Contreras don't show up at all. I guess I can see them not putting Schwarber and Contreras in as they're still "unproven" and it might depend what position they list Schwarber at. So my bigger contention is no Russell in the top 18. He was tied for 10th among SS in runs score, 15th in hits, 16th in doubles, tied for 11th in triples, 7th in homeruns, 2nd in RBIs, 6th in walks, 17th in batting average, 10th in OBP., 13th in SLG., 11th in OPS. and is very good defensive player.

      http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news...o1pqono83flsiw
      Thats got to be something as simple as oversight. In the last roster update Addison was rated an 82 overall, up from the default 79 he started at. I bet he's an 85 in 17.
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      A Work in Progress

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      • Figment
        Pro
        • Jan 2009
        • 772

        #4
        Re: #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

        Originally posted by trackstar121388
        So I just saw a list of the top 18 players at every position and I was surprised by a few things.

        They don't have Addison Russell as one of the top 18 SS in the league. Additionally, Schwarber and Contreras don't show up at all. I guess I can see them not putting Schwarber and Contreras in as they're still "unproven" and it might depend what position they list Schwarber at. So my bigger contention is no Russell in the top 18. He was tied for 10th among SS in runs score, 15th in hits, 16th in doubles, tied for 11th in triples, 7th in homeruns, 2nd in RBIs, 6th in walks, 17th in batting average, 10th in OBP., 13th in SLG., 11th in OPS. and is very good defensive player.

        http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news...o1pqono83flsiw
        I thought I remembered seeing Russell in one of the streams at a mid 80's rating, probably just an oversight by whoever wrote the article, there is no way that his fielding ability and batting production still don't equal at least a 78 overall. As for Schwarber, many don't expect him to be much of anything at LF and I expect MLB the Show to think the same. They had him rated around a 77 last year as a LF and I expect he will be rated about the same. I wouldn't be too worried about it, I'm just going to edit them myself anyway, you should too if you don't like their ratings.

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        • trackstar121388
          Rookie
          • Apr 2014
          • 238

          #5
          Re: #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

          Originally posted by Figment
          I thought I remembered seeing Russell in one of the streams at a mid 80's rating, probably just an oversight by whoever wrote the article, there is no way that his fielding ability and batting production still don't equal at least a 78 overall. As for Schwarber, many don't expect him to be much of anything at LF and I expect MLB the Show to think the same. They had him rated around a 77 last year as a LF and I expect he will be rated about the same. I wouldn't be too worried about it, I'm just going to edit them myself anyway, you should too if you don't like their ratings.
          I probably will edit them. They sometimes under-rate some hitting attributes

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          • thescoop
            MVP
            • Jan 2006
            • 1288

            #6
            Re: #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

            Awesome job putting this together. I can't wait till next week to get start playing this game. Of course I'll be waiting even longer to play with actual minor leaguers as well.
            Check out my updated 2017 blog on building a high school football video game:
            http://forums.operationsports.com/th...ame-revisited/

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            • ItAllFades
              Rookie
              • Mar 2013
              • 324

              #7
              Re: #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

              Ready for another fun year, boys. Lets do this.

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              • trackstar121388
                Rookie
                • Apr 2014
                • 238

                #8
                Re: #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

                Cubs roster ratings
                Kris Bryant 94
                Jake Arrieta 92
                Wade Davis 91
                Jon Lester 90
                Anthony Rizzo 89
                Kyle Hendricks 87
                Ben Zobrist 85
                Hector Rondon 84
                Pedro Strop 84
                Koji Uehara 83
                Javier Baez 81
                John Lackey 81
                Justin Grimm 80
                Carl Edwards Jr. 79
                Wilson Contreras 78
                Jason Heyward 78
                Addison Russell 78
                Fernando Rodriguez 77
                Kyle Schwarber 76
                Mike Montgomery 75
                Miguel Montero 74
                Brett Anderson 72
                Jon Jay 70
                Tommy La Stella 69
                Jemile Weeks 69
                Matt Szczur 67
                Munenori Kawasaki 67
                Brian Duensing 65
                Jim Henderson 65
                Alberto Alomra Jr. 64
                Williams Perez 64
                Jake Buchanan 62
                Alec Mills 61
                Jeimer Candelario 59
                Felix Pena 57
                Casey Kelly 56
                Rob Zastryny 56
                Eddie Butler 55
                Conor Mulle 54
                Dylan Floro 49

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                • Caulfield
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 10986

                  #9
                  Re: #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

                  surprised addison is still a 79, esp. since his IRL WAR went from 3.3 to 4.3 and his Show WAR went from 1.2 to 1.8
                  :headscratch:
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                  • trackstar121388
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 238

                    #10
                    Re: #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

                    Originally posted by Caulfield
                    surprised addison is still a 79, esp. since his IRL WAR went from 3.3 to 4.3 and his Show WAR went from 1.2 to 1.8
                    :headscratch:
                    Even more surprising when you look at some of the shortstops that are rated higher than him.

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                    • Figment
                      Pro
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 772

                      #11
                      #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

                      I wanted to do an update of the list now that the game has released. If Ridin or any of the OSFM crew ever look in here I hope it helps them, if not it is fun to speculate who will make the OSFM roster, it's like making a mock draft but for a video game (I don't think I'm the only person who likes making mock drafts?). Anyway, this will be the same format as my first post:

                      I used The Cub Reporter (http://www.thecubreporter.com/cubs-s...al-depth-chart) as my primary source to build these rosters combined with news I've read and just overall paying attention to my team.

                      A bold player denotes a top ten player followed by a bracket displaying what list they were rated by (MLB, Baseball Prospectus, and Baseball America) and what they were rated.
                      An asterisk * will mark all players currently on the 40 man roster.
                      I will have it separated by MLB, AAA, AA, and A for a total of the 90 players I think should be on the roster, plus I will have an extras section of another 18 players that I think have a legitimate claim to be included in the roster.

                      My rules for players who are on the 90 man roster are:
                      All players on the 40 man roster are included.
                      All players listed in AAA are included.
                      All players on a top 10 list are included.
                      The rest are filled with AA players, if they are listed on the MLB top 30 but not in the top ten then they receive priority.

                      MLB:
                      SP Jon Lester* (L)
                      SP Jake Arrieta*
                      SP Kyle Hendricks*
                      SP John Lackey*
                      SP Brett Anderson* (L)
                      SP/RP Mike Montgomery* (L)
                      CP Wade Davis*
                      RP Hector Rondon*
                      RP Koji Uehara*
                      RP Pedro Strop*
                      RP Brian Duensing* (L)
                      RP Carl Edwards Jr*
                      RP Justin Grimm*
                      C/LF Willson Contreras*
                      C Miguel Montero* (L)
                      1B Anthony Rizzo* (L)
                      2B/LF/RF Ben Zobrist* (S)
                      2B/SS/3B Javier Baez*
                      3B/OF Kris Bryant*
                      SS Addison Russell*
                      LF/C Kyle Schwarber* (L)
                      LF/OF Matt Szczur*
                      CF/OF Albert Almora* [MLB:3][BA:3][BP:3]
                      CF/OF Jon Jay* (L)
                      RF/OF Jason Heyward*

                      AAA:
                      SP Eddie Butler*
                      SP Rob Zastryzny* (L) [MLB:21]
                      SP Alec Mills*[MLB:16]
                      SP Jake Buchanan*
                      SP Aaron Brooks*
                      SP Ryan Williams [MLB:19]
                      RP Fernando Rodriguez
                      RP Felix Pena*[MLB:26]
                      RP Jack Leathersich* (L)
                      RP Pierce Johnson*[MLB:18]
                      RP Jose Rosario*[MLB:22]
                      RP Manny Parra
                      RP David Rollins (L)
                      C Carlos Corporan (S)
                      C/1B Taylor Davis
                      1B/3B Chris Dominguez
                      2B/3B Tommy La Stella* (L)
                      2B Jemile Weeks
                      2B/OF Ian Happ (S) [MLB:1][BA:2][BP:2]
                      3B Jeimer Candelario* (S) [MLB:5][BA:7][BP:5]
                      3B/SS Kevin Cornelius
                      SS Elliot Soto
                      LF/RF Mark Zagunis [MLB:6][BA:6]
                      CF/OF Jacob Hannemann*(L)[MLB:20]
                      RF/OF John Andreoli

                      AA:
                      SP Williams Perez
                      SP Casey Kelly
                      SP Seth Frankoff
                      SP Dallas Beeler
                      SP Jordan Pries
                      SP Duane Underwood Jr*[MLB:7]
                      SP Trevor Clifton [MLB:9][BA:8][BP:4]
                      RP Dylan Floro
                      RP Daniel Corcino
                      RP Andury Acevedo
                      RP Corey Black [MLB:28]
                      RP Zac Rosscup (L)
                      RP Conor Mullee
                      C/1B/3B Victor Caratini*(S) [MLB:15]
                      C Ali Solis
                      1B Yasiel Balaguert
                      2B/3B Chesny Young [MLB:29]
                      2B/SS Stephen Bruno
                      3B Jason Vosler (L)
                      3B Jesse Hodges
                      SS Carlos Penalver
                      LF/OF Charcer Burks
                      CF/OF Todd Glaesmann
                      RF/LF Bijan Rademacher (L)
                      RF/OF Jeffrey Baez

                      A:
                      SP Jen-Ho Tseng [MLB:27]
                      SP Jake Stinnett [MLB:17]
                      SP Thomas Hatch [BP:10]
                      SP Jose Albertos [MLB:10][BA:10][BP:6]
                      SP Oscar De La Cruz [MLB:8][BA:5][BP:8]
                      SP Dylan Cease [MLB:4][BA:4][BP:7]
                      RP Gerardo Concepcion (L)
                      C/1B Cael Brockmeyer
                      1B Gioskar Amaya
                      2B David Bote
                      2B Andrew Ely (L)
                      CF/OF Trey Martin
                      CF/OF D.J. Wilson (L)[MLB:12][BA:9]
                      RF/LF Eddy Julio Martinez [MLB:13][BP:9]
                      RF/LF Eloy Jimenez [MLB:2][BA:1][BP:1]

                      EXTRAS:
                      SP Justin Steele (L) [MLB:24]
                      SP Carson Sands (L) [MLB:25]
                      SP Bryan Hudson (L) [MLB:11]
                      RP Jose Paulino (L) [MLB:30]
                      RP Jhondaniel Medina
                      RP Miguel Mejia
                      RP Frank Batista
                      RP Michael Wagner
                      RP Steve Perakslis
                      RP Juan Carlos Paniagua
                      RP David Garner
                      RP Mario Meza
                      RP Tommy Nance
                      C P.J. Higgins [MLB:23]
                      C Erick Castillo (S)
                      1B Alberto Mineo (L)
                      3B Vimael Machin (L)
                      3B Wladimir Galindo

                      Thanks to anyone who took the time to read this long post. Don't pay too much attention to what level they are at, I was just following the depth chart and listing them from there with minor changes off the top of my head. As usual, please let me know your thoughts, I would love to hear or debate them, and besides that I can't wait to watch the Cubs beat the Cardinals this Sunday to start the season.

                      Go Cubs Go!
                      Last edited by Figment; 04-01-2017, 10:15 AM.

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                      • Figment
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 772

                        #12
                        Re: #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

                        Originally posted by trackstar121388
                        Even more surprising when you look at some of the shortstops that are rated higher than him.
                        I'll just end up editing him myself. If anyone is interested I have a spreadsheet that I work on every year that has every player on the team and their ratings from The Show 14, 15, 16, and 17 to start and end the season and/or their OSFM ratings if they were included in those rosters as well. It's great for editing players that you believe have been rating incorrectly and want to edit them. I should have it done by the end of the weekend if anyone is interested.

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                        • rh123
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 184

                          #13
                          Re: #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

                          Bryant's stance is awful. Anyone changed it to anything else yet?

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                          • ItAllFades
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 324

                            #14
                            Re: #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

                            Originally posted by rh123
                            Bryant's stance is awful. Anyone changed it to anything else yet?
                            Rizzo's is pretty bad too, I think.

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                            • OhioCub
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 409

                              #15
                              Re: #OSFM 17: Chicago Cubs World Series Champions

                              Originally posted by ItAllFades
                              Rizzo's is pretty bad too, I think.
                              I'm not one who's obsessive over stances but I do wish they'd make rizzos stance crowd the plate more like he does irl.

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