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  • youngprince41
    Rookie
    • Feb 2017
    • 46

    #1

    Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

    One thing that I take into consideration is that they can't fix everything and that somethings just have to be fixed for NBA 2K18. But from doing a lot of reading in the forums I did see Da_Czar say that this patch will be a representation of what they're aiming for in NBA 2K18 and I actually like how it feels. I have only played a couple of games of Pro-AM so I can't speak for regular Exhibition games or MyLeague but the game play seems way smoother. Here's the things I noticed

    • Dribbling

    Dribbling seems way smoother. I feel more free when I put together combo dribble moves. I also feel like the moves mesh with each way better and they feel more fluid.

    • Defense

    Now I could be wrong but am I the only one that feels like the lateral quickness is better? I didn't see this in the patch notes but I felt like they improved it when I was playing the game. It stills needs improvement overall so let me not steer you guys wrong lol.

    • Fastbreaks

    Now everybody knows that animation where you catch a rebound or a steal and your trying to run on a fastbreak but the defender that's BEHIND you is literally holding you back. I didn't see that happen at all and to be a playmaker this made me feel so much better about the game because now I am able to run on the break to find some open guys or take it in myself. I just feel more free on fastbreaks in general.

    Things That Still Need To Be Fixed For NBA 2K18

    • Forced Layups

    I'm still seeing this happen. I try to pump fake and instead it makes my player force a layup. I like the animation don't get me wrong but it should only happen when your actually trying to force a layup and not when your trying to pump fake.

    • Bad Post Defense

    I don't play center but I see it all the time and its an eyesore. A center will literally do a standing dunk on another center like he's not even there. No physicality going on or nothing. It's literally like your not there and the offensive player gets a free dunk. Maybe on smaller players I could accept this but not on centers that ACTUALLY play good defense. This is one of the things that needs to be addressed in NBA 2K18.

    • Highly Contested Shots Going In

    Now I understand that NBA players can once in awhile make a highly contested shot but how frequent it happens in this game is kind of bad. They just dropped some shooting slider tweaks today and I have yet to test them out so hopefully I can edit and delete this part of the post when I get on later tonight lol.

    • The Unnecessary Euro-Step Floater

    Now I haven't seen anybody complain about this on the forums so I guess I'll be the first one to set it off lol. Me being a 6'4 PG I know that I can't always get all the way to the rim because of the big men that protect it. So I do a lot of floaters to give myself that space in between me and them. But one thing that make me not want to use floaters sometimes is the Euro-Step that happens before it. It's unnecessary and 9 times out of 10 results in a block for me. It's very frustrating. Don't get me wrong because again I LIKE THE ANIMATION but it shouldn't be forced on the player when I'm just trying to do a floater. A GREAT way to keep this animation and to keep regular floaters is to be able to do a floater out of a Euro-Step. How that would work is basically when you double tap Square for a Euro-Step you should be able to pull back on the Right Stick for a floater to possibly avoid a block if a second defender is near. This would give the user WAY MORE CONTROL and you would actually need stick skills to pull this off. I'm sure everyone can agree that that would be a great idea.

    • Driving Fake Pass Out Of Bounds

    I've pulled this off ONE TIME without actually going out of bounds and laying the ball up with my player lol but it's just not responsive enough. I don't like the fact that you have to time the Square button after the fake pass on the drive in order to avoid going out of bounds. I fake pass on the drive and immediately click square but because clicking square right after the fake pass is to early it causes my player to go out of bounds. Now as much as you might not agree, again, I LOVE THE ANIMATION but I should be able to click square immediately after the fake pass to lay the ball up. A way you guys could keep this animation in but make it work at the same time is if a guy fake passes on the drive and DOESN'T click square at all he should either TRAVEL or go out of bounds like the regular animation, But you shouldn't be penalized for clicking square immediately after fake passing because laying the ball up after the fake pass is just realistic and another way to give players more options is to be able to choose the direction you want to fake pass to on the drive and instead of laying the ball up after you should also be able to pass after the fake pass. I've seen Rondo do this plenty of times and this would make the game more eye candy and make the real guys with skill on the sticks stand out.

    • Spin Move Hesitation

    I had to add this in because I don't know if anybody else talks about it but I hate when I setup a perfect spin move on a guy and instead of me doing a full spin move and then drive to the basket it makes me hesitate and stepback. This has messed up so many perfect fastbreaks for me and is another eyesore. If I want to do a spin move into a stepback let me choose to do that.


    Leave your thoughts and opinions below and let me know what you guys agree with and disagree with!








    Last edited by youngprince41; 04-08-2017, 06:47 PM. Reason: Added something
  • YungGun
    Pro
    • Aug 2011
    • 536

    #2
    Re: Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

    Defense still sucks in this game. Defensive animations happen way too late, everything is slower in defense for some reason, and lateral quickness is still broken.

    They need to completely overhaul defense or make it how it was in NBA 2K15 because right now, unless your a LDD, defense is way to slow compared to offense.

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    • youngprince41
      Rookie
      • Feb 2017
      • 46

      #3
      Re: Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

      Originally posted by YungGun
      Defense still sucks in this game. Defensive animations happen way too late, everything is slower in defense for some reason, and lateral quickness is still broken.

      They need to completely overhaul defense or make it how it was in NBA 2K15 because right now, unless your a LDD, defense is way to slow compared to offense.

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      I agree with you. Maybe I was just over thinking but it did feel a lil better. But I still feel like they need more improvement. But still trying to accept the fact that they can't fix everything in 17 when they are working on NBA 2K18 already.

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      • vtcrb
        Hall Of Fame
        • Nov 2006
        • 10297

        #4
        Re: Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

        Are you all playing with 2K roster or custom rosters? Also what are sliders you are using? Both of them can make a major difference in what you are seeing. It also helps the Devs understand what you are seeing.
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        • FixEverything2k
          Pro
          • May 2016
          • 577

          #5
          Re: Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

          Originally posted by youngprince41
          • Bad Post Defense

          I don't play center but I see it all the time and its an eyesore. A center will literally do a standing dunk on another center like he's not even there. No physicality going on or nothing. It's literally like your not there and the offensive player gets a free dunk. Maybe on smaller players I could accept this but not on centers that ACTUALLY play good defense. This is one of the things that needs to be addressed in NBA 2K18.
          I disagree. As someone who has played PF and C, increasing physicality here would be a bad thing, more so for people who play on HOF. CPU defenders suction cup onto you under the rim everytime when you play as a center, whether they are a PG or a C. If they do increase this physicality it has to be 100% Physics based and not 2 man canned animation based, or else every shot attempt under the rim will be an exaggerated no foul call animation.
          ... But hey VC sale!!

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          • YungGun
            Pro
            • Aug 2011
            • 536

            #6
            Re: Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

            I was having this problem while playing MyLeague Online with HoF sliders and while playing MyPark. The defensive movement and reactions in this game are terrible.

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            • Hustle Westbrook
              MVP
              • Jan 2015
              • 3113

              #7
              Re: Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

              My teammates are deflecting and stealing way more bad passes so it's automatically a good patch to me.
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              • rossi45
                Rookie
                • Mar 2017
                • 53

                #8
                Re: Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

                They made the game a lot better today! I was playing park with random guys because my friends are not here right now, which I usually never do. But I still had a great fun, nice shooting. Kept scoring on threes from Top and Corners, but looking on Mike Wangs twitter it seems like the people play another game. Everyone is writing things like -> I cant hit anything, Im shooting 3 of 25 in Mycourt, cant hit open shots in Park and so on

                To me the game feels so good as it should have felt all year. Lets hope for the best tomorrow

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                • Thetruth9012
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 1287

                  #9
                  Re: Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

                  Originally posted by rossi45
                  They made the game a lot better today! I was playing park with random guys because my friends are not here right now, which I usually never do. But I still had a great fun, nice shooting. Kept scoring on threes from Top and Corners, but looking on Mike Wangs twitter it seems like the people play another game. Everyone is writing things like -> I cant hit anything, Im shooting 3 of 25 in Mycourt, cant hit open shots in Park and so on

                  To me the game feels so good as it should have felt all year. Lets hope for the best tomorrow
                  I'm courious is Mike reverting it back or he will only tweak it a little.

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                  Late contest on laups matter too much.

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                  • rossi45
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 53

                    #10
                    Re: Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

                    if you see how many guys spam his twitter, I guess its quite hard to resist. Maybe it will be even easier than it was

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                    • youngprince41
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 46

                      #11
                      Re: Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

                      Originally posted by vtcrb
                      Are you all playing with 2K roster or custom rosters? Also what are sliders you are using? Both of them can make a major difference in what you are seeing. It also helps the Devs understand what you are seeing.
                      In my beginning statement I said I only played a couple of games of Pro-AM and that I can't speak for Exibition games or MyLeague

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                      • youngprince41
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2017
                        • 46

                        #12
                        Re: Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

                        Originally posted by FixEverything2k
                        I disagree. As someone who has played PF and C, increasing physicality here would be a bad thing, more so for people who play on HOF. CPU defenders suction cup onto you under the rim everytime when you play as a center, whether they are a PG or a C. If they do increase this physicality it has to be 100% Physics based and not 2 man canned animation based, or else every shot attempt under the rim will be an exaggerated no foul call animation.
                        I should of elaborated more but I also feel that it needs to be 100% physics based. The canned animations kill the immersion. But you can't tell me that you don't see centers get posterized back to back as if they were PG. And also PG pushing Centers out the way like they're stronger. Strength needs to matter just as much as it needs to be more phyics based

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                        • dajaz27
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 13

                          #13
                          Re: Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

                          So I don't know how I feel. I just scored 40 in walkon pro am against three or 4 players(everybody on my team quit). Can't hit open threes. I am a playmaker. We are normally useless without corner threes. But I can hit middies off the dribble.

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                          • Raisnets
                            Banned
                            • May 2015
                            • 100

                            #14
                            Re: Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

                            It's better but it's not where the game was before patch 1.04.

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                            • Rockie_Fresh88
                              Lockdown Defender
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 9621

                              #15
                              Re: Is it just me or is Patch 12 actually really GOOD?

                              First game today with the patch AND game update .
                              Had 16 points , 23 rebounds , 6 assists , 4 steals , and 6 blocks with my paint protector . 7/8 shooting.

                              Felt good to me lol
                              Last edited by Rockie_Fresh88; 04-08-2017, 07:53 PM.
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